and the second set of letters which i think came to light because of george dyson, certainly george writings in rifting terms -- riveting terms about this rusty upright filing cabinet in your basement next to the boiler. as george put it in his book, it's always next to boiler, whatever it is. [laughter] >> that's right. >> of all the letters that were exchanged between john and clary during all those years. >> that's right. as i said, he wrote to her constantly. many of them were in hungarian, but some of them were in english. and once long before i had ever looked through them, our son who was then probably in his 20s or something looked through them. he didn't read hungarian, so he just looked at the ones in english, and i said, well, what are you finding there? and he said very simply, a portrait of a disintegrating marriage. and that wasn't far off. i mean, they, in fact, stayed married, and once my father was very ill, my stepmother became a very caring carrytaker and so -- caretaker and so forth. but there's no question that it was in many ways a very dysfunctional relationship. and t