i'm about to walk in there and talk about george eliot's love life, and her deep trauma and tears. walk into this audience that is the most emotionally avoidant -- this is not going to go well. but then when you start talking about a life deeply led the way george eliot lived or dorothy day, they lock in, and there's a quality of silence there i'd never heard in my speaking career. and that's because people are so hungry to at least have a forum to think about the things that matter most to them. they know what is important but they do not have the words and no one is talking to them in those terms the way martin luther king used to. so, there's this void in the public space. for politicians, i think obama did as well as could be expected. if our politicians could talk to that, i think there would be a resonance. people are so hungry for uplift, for someone to name something that inspires and uplifts. clinton unfortunately is so closed and walled off, and trump is his own weird -- charlie: that is part of the reason why michelle obama's speech was the most well-received. david: rig