i think that he learned a huge amount from him and learned a lot from george elliott.s the century of observation but it seems mysteriously to have happened in the united states. >> the campaign was not successful even though every city was burned. it was an attempt to burn and the entire country and it didn't succeed because they escaped by living in caves. but then by dropping these traditional looking bombs and they made a very detailed accounts. the chinese charts were doped diseases and falsified. it was a deniable effort so they wanted to discourage, terrify, because unhappiness in the area. that's where these events happened i think that is what did happen. >> without making it up under douglas macarthur's know-how where the other horrors are developed. [inaudible] another level aside. i couldn't possibly have written this book without this man is a great explainer and it's difficult to describe something as complicated as the cold war and make it clear and this is what he has done in a whole bunch of books one after anoth another. one book after another he is a

trump era in terms of what went wrong in this country as donald trump is and men like elliott richardson and georgee reasons that went right. >> it's really important when you put it like that and goes to, you know, like everything else, hisry h rr rry history ha narrative bias who was in charge then and what is available to look back on. i think it's a safe observation that rachel will go that much deep tore find the other stuff and if it has a point, great. the last thing i want to ask you about before i lose you, rachel, this is your busy this year first time on "the beat" 2020. what a journey. we have a little tape from something that is maybe harder than it looks, which is the breaking news side of it and this is -- we'll look at rachel 2016 election night after the call as you're processing this and telling the story to america and also this cycle's election night for reflections on the other side. let take a look. >> most americans and latino americans and immigrants documented and otherwise are in fear for what the country just do d a did and what it means our country endorsed him after wha