now, michael gove, george eustace and many others had maintained these sensitive sectors and it was decidederalise. australia was liberalised and we would, too. there'll be nothing that we can do if things go wrong here. crosstalk. what a negative view of what mark spencer, the farming minister, described as a massive opportunity forfarmers to enjoy a new dawn, allowing them to break into markets in asia. he said, "with inbuilt safeguards to ensure that "farmers are still protected". was he simply not telling the truth? so, if he's talking recently, he's talking about the trans—pacific deal, which is the cptpp deal. now, this is what i mean about different prime ministers. you had borisjohnson, you had liz truss. now, the cptpp, liz truss wanted to start negotiations at 100,000 tons on beef. actually, what they've done with this deal, the trans—pacific one, is to negotiate a deal of 13,000 tons on beef. you can see that that is a very, very different approach. i'm really pleased that the prime minister has listened — rishi sunak has listened. you've got a different approach to trade but don