is i mean, george gilbert's argument always was that many men got married because they were tired ofhunting/gathering, they wanted to become farmers. [laughter] i mean, it's true. >> yeah, yeah. >> a lot of men, that's the great impetus, regularity. >> right. >> and i was just wondering whether or not you've explored this business about men -- these creatures simply losing interest in sex or getting it off the pornography off the web or something, or doing it some other way -- >> sure. >> -- and can that physical aspect may be a critical element to add to your list. >> yeah. you know, i haven't heard about a loss of interest in sex among boys. what i have read about and i think is worth taking very seriously is the predominance of porn in their lives. this has become a profound new way of spending your time. for young men. and, you know, we published an excerpt of my book in "the wall street journal" about ten days ago, and i got a number of letters from young men who said i've got porn. [laughter] i don't want to bother with the real women. and certainly you hear, more than that you