joining me now, one of the country's most provocative political and economic thinkers, george gilbert author of "the israel test", a you new edition released today. george, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> lou: let's start with politics, governor huckabee and i talked about how much he dislikes -- he' sick of them, right now and rationally so, but we are faced with economic calamity if we don't -- our politics don't work here. what would you put the odds at, we'll see rationality, when it comes to the fiscal cliff. >> zero. if we could keep our current tax rates we'd continue to increase government revenues, you know, government revenues have increased 26% under the bush tax rates over the last two years, and the only reason -- >> say that again. >> over the last two years, government revenues have risen 26%, almost a quarter using the bush tax rates. low tax rates bring more revenues, not less. >> lou: demonstrate throughout economic history. but do you interpret this -- all of the drama around the fiscal cliff to be really, a total lack of faith? heresy in front of th