>> well, i think that it fits in with what george gilder's ideas have been about. that we have to incentivize folks to move out of what is traditionally seen as the manufacturing industry and move into the productions of ideas and creative notions. if that's really what changes the world. the true heroes in america -- i don't think that it's a heroic to go out and get a job for your family. that's normal. you have to do her family. but i do think it's the road to risk everything you have to bring a new product to the market and risking everything you have very difficult. but bill gates, as an example, is responsible for changing the lives of many people. entrepreneurship fetters everybody. capitalism is a great alters the experiment in human history. it is a term that does not resonate with folks. it's not about the structure, there may be things that get sent along the way. but that's not what capitalism is. they are the greatest ultra sick experiment on behalf of tolerance and diversity in human history. there's a reason. he thought that he could make money off o

i can't tell you whether i agree with it at the idea of entrepreneurs creating a thin by george gilder'snew book, knowledge and power has been about, the idea we incentivize folks to the about of what traditionally has been seen as the job creating industry, the manufacturing and what now is the only job creating industry and move into the production of ideas, the production of creative notion because that's really what changes the world. the true heroes in america -- i don't think it's a road to get a job to support your family. that's what's normal. i do think it is heroic to risk everything you have in order to bring a new product to market that's going to make millions of lives better. in a certain moral calculus, bill gates is much more valuable to humanity than mother teresa. bill gates is responsible for the hiring of millions of people, wealth of millions of people in changing the lives of millions of people. entrepreneurship has largely been abandoned as a societal good and the deal of entrepreneurship that batters everybody. this is where it really goes wrong. when i talk about