we're just getting started. >> that was george goehl then, and here he is now. one of the brains behind the 99% spring. george goehl has been a community organizer, a strategist and trainer for 20 years. he's executive director of national people's action. that's a network of grassroots organizations in 14 states using direct action to battle against economic and racial injustice. welcome, george. >> hey, thanks for having me. >> it's been three years since i saw you last. and congress has enacted the dodd-frank bill with some oversight of wall street. and the president has been sounding like a populist from time to time. are you satisfied with the progress? >> we're not. i mean, i would say that it's been hard for the president to tap into that populist bone in his body. i think some of us question whether it's there. it often feels like he's kind of trying to eat his worst, or least favorite vegetable. putting some broccoli down his throat. and he can do it for a couple days. but then he kind of moves back towards the middle. but he's got a chance to prove him