how could you vote for this guy when your own friend, george h w bush and george w. bush didn't vote for him. it was a constant source of conversation which he never fully gave an answer that we ever understood. his answer is i am a republican, he's the leader of my party, i don't want democrats in there. i always thought it was part of his nature. his nature is to not be on the outside throwing rocks but to be on the inside. because even though he doesn't need any power or influence, on the inside, you have a chance to have something. susan: it's the conundrum of the modern republican party. in many ways, we realized if the subject of your biography is telling you again and again the same answer, you have to listen to him. what was he telling us? certainly helping us to understand how it is possible donald trump could have become the candidate of the republican party twice. many people were like jim baker. they didn't necessarily agree with donald trump on many issues. they saw his character, certainly in baker's case, quite clearly. yet the demand of partisanship i

i want to conclude today with president george h. w. bush, who's obviously the namesake of our library here in texas. here he is campaigning. bob, you're of course on board that trip. and giving the usual high sign and smiling to supporters. another picture of him, by the way, this is not t mellan he is on, he is on a c x x business car, the podium is provided by the white house. you can see his supporters right nearby. here is another photo of him. now, we're moving to the president, or close to the president, back 2005 we were able to, the union pacific graciously painted a locomotive, he was the 41st president, in the colors of air force one. here's mr. bush. they're on the lower right. and this is during the presidents funeral train. you will see that this is the outpouring of emotion, it was really amazing, i expected it but i was still overwhelmed by the grieving and the support that president bush had as he traveled from houston to college station, which is about 90 miles, here is a picture in napa soda, texas. it is a little blurry,

we are about to move into fdr, eisenhower and leader george h. w. bush. it is a much more solemn occasion than you see in this photo here, which i wanted to share with you as a point of contrast to what we will talk about in a little bit. so now, i would like to move on, bob, to franklin roosevelt, a man who spent an enormous amount of time on a train, while he was president. in fact, in your book, we talk about mentioning, he traveled about 243,000 miles, some 399 distinct trips. in ayou also called the roosevet administration, his travel on a train, a time of curious transition. do you want to talk about what that means? >> of course. the biggest change occurred after the united states entered world war ii, the after the bombing of pearl harbor by the japanese on december 7th. i think that it was early in 1942, they gave him an especially modernized, re-equipped car. the name was ferdinand magellan. and it was one of six cars, the company built, in august of 1929. it was a result of world war ii. the crews were produced from five, to four. the large din

these countries were targeted by the george h w bush, or george w bush, the senior vice president of ronald reagan and bribed with hundreds of millions of dollars. and these monies were given the countries in exchange for their acquiescence and their submission to american military and economic and political objectives. mm. the ring of nato military bases is being formed around russia. the u. s. nato have over 600 military base is world wide. russia has just 18, but the west still claims that russia has aggressive intent by turning those russians, the soviets, and to this dangerous bogeyman there wants to take over the world. that was a conscious strategy to create this image, it themselves. as out for world conquest, which was not the case, then by now, ah, nato should have died, but they will give it meaning. it is about infected, created by nato nato's business machine because you must remember, if nature, what is bad. shareholders in united states and elsewhere in lodge obs companies would lose millions and millions they'd only have one year instead of 2 yards each . there. oh de

raegan a bit, and george h. w. bush with whom he served as a backbencher on the ways and means. >> yeah, but it also reflects i think, bill, the view from one side of pennsylvania avenue versus the other. jim has a special appreciation for this. he will be critical, sometimes, and from that side of the bench, there was grounds for that criticism. from the other side of the bench, it might have looked a bit different. and i think that's one of the virtues of this book. >> we both have been in the white house, and i will guarantee you, every white house is at war with congress, and vice versa. i don't care who runs which one. the white house thinks why can't the buffoons know what's good for them. the buffoons sitting at the congress think, when are they going to come talk to me johnny what's going on? it's a constant warfare, i think every congress tries to work at it. >> i want someone to talk about the wonderful barber carnival desk that he had. that was a beautiful antique, and it's actually in my house now. but he pu

our military objectives are met for president george h. w bush. the liberation of kuwait was only the 1st stage of a much more ambitious policy. he wanted to build a new middle east. after the victory in iraq, he sought to make the persian gulf goose oil wealth made it a particularly strategic region. more secure for american interests but to achieve his goal, bush 1st needed to resolve the israeli, palestinian conflict threatening the stability of the entire middle east. the process was launched with a peace conference in madrid. in his efforts to impose his pox americana on the gulf, president bush invited any one with any potential influence on the arab israeli conflict. got up with them. you may know some europeans were the soviets, with leaders of the ma grip and the middle east. all attended, rational treated, that's enough, was women. only one country was missing the islamic republic of iran. the visceral answer for why iran was not invited is the hangover from the hostage taking it still with us today. ah, hatred of iran for the 1979 hosta

gifted to the president of the united states at camp david, commissioned in 1991 during president george h. w. bush. >> how do the presidents get to camp david you talked about fdr with driving distance but they don't historically drive. >> not ideally. we prefer to bring them by the helicopter. eisenhower was the first. weather permitting, they will fly in on h annex one or marine one. otherwise, they will come up by motorcade from when they were last departed. >> camp david is a presidential retreat. we know the presidents often find themselves working at camp david. tell us a little bit about how it functions as a white house in the maryland mountains. >> most people recognize, no matter who the president, you're always going to be on duty. there could be a lot of critiques about what you do when you're off-duty or how you do your job. the fact is, you are always on duty as the president. you need time off. we all need time off. and in addition to a second home that some presidents have, some not, camp david provides that peaceful getaway for family, friends and if needed for staff and for world

president george h. w. bush was a distant second with 331 jokes during that period of time.ut that volume of humor represents nothing more than an appetizer for the way the political figures were treated by comics in the years that followed. as i describe in my new book, late night with trump, political humor and the american presidency, my coauthor and i identified 1841 jokes on president trump, during his first year and office on the same two programs. it's a much, much more relentless focus on politics today. carson's treatment of quail had one other impact that was lasting and really shaped the growing importance of late night to political discourse in american politics, starting with carson's attacks on quail. news organizations increasingly turned to comedy clips and use them as a way to shape their own news reports. this increases the linkage between news and entertainment, and helped make late night comedy a key source of political discourse, and even, polls show, political learning by viewers. now, i think one issue that i think it's important to touch on, as we tal

to be reset, the furthest clock has been away from midnight was 17 minutes back in 1991 after george h w bush'seduction treaty with the soviet union, i said a few minutes ago the closest it's been to midnight is now, hand just 90 seconds away. multiple factors why they moved this clock forward including russia's invasion of ukraine, continuing threats posed by climate change and also online disinformation. the clock has actually never reached midnight but if it does, the bulletin's president and ceo says it will mean there's been some event led to total aannihilation. i want you to bring back in jonah goldberg, ashley allison, and tia, mitchell. >> i don't want to be the bumper here. >> doomsday clock. >> i think the doomsday clock has been hot garbage for decade, it's a publicity student. i live and think tank world the presence i know a lot of people think tank be world, the bulletin of a scientist board are no more expert at global affairs than a half dozen other think tanks that you have at university as guests you have on here all the time. we've been hundreds of second from midnight for 7

george w. bush, bill clinton, george h. w. bush, ronald reagan, jimmy carter, you could go back and back and back -- >> what do you want to cut? >> one is let's actually go to revisit what was in the 1.7 omnibus deal. we shouldn't have done that. it was excessive. it was done at the midnight hour. what is in the inflation reduction act had nothing to do with reducing inflation. it's actually going to -- >> what do you want to cut? >> i'm telling you. hold on. we have the green new deal subsidies, things we don't have the money for. you start there. the third thing, overall, you end the covid emergencies. because news flash, america, covid is over now. all of the money that we have spent during the covid pandemic is now in our baseline. you go back in, take that money back to pre-pandemic levels, it puts us on a much more sustainable path from a financial picture. i think if you do those things, you can be in agreement to actually increase the debt ceiling, and make it serious about -- >> you want to cut all of the green initiat

of the most contentious debates of the 1980 republican primary was between ronald reagan and george h. w. bush about who was going to have more pro immigration policy. 42 years, 43 years ago, 2007, george w. bush, john mccain and teddy kennedy almost get to a deal. i was on john mccain's campaign. and he, said if it cost me my campaign, if we get the job done, it would've been worth it. and that kind of thinking is long gone. >> it certainly is. we are currently at a moment of divisive rhetoric. when, what we need more than anything is comprehensive reform. reed galen, jason johnson, great to have you both. here i really appreciated. when we come, back some positive news, back to buffalo, just one week after collapsing on the football field. damar hamlin it is not at the cincinnati hospital, what we know about his incredible recovery, in the vote ahead in the 11th hour continues. the 11th hour continues. you watch the game yesterday, with the opening kicked off, he jumped up and down cut out of his chair, set every alarm off in the icu process. he was fine, it was just appropriate, reaction to

furthest the clock has been away from midnight was 17 minutes, that was back in 1991 after george h. w. bush'sstration signed the strategic arms reduction treaty, with the soviet union. as we said a few moments ago, the closest the clock has been to midnight is right now. the hand just 90 seconds away. the bulletins said multiple factors for why they moved this clock forward, they include russia's invasion of ukraine, the continuing threats posed by climate change, and also online disinformation. the clock has never reached midnight, but if it does, the bulletins president and ceo says, it will mean there's been some event that's led to total annihilation. i want to bring back jonah goldberg, ashley allison and tÉa mitchell. jonah, you're smiling. tell me why. >> i don't to be the bomber here, -- >> in a doomsday clock segment? >> i think the doomsday clock has been guarded for decades, it's a publicity stunt. i live in think tank world, american enterprise institute, i know what people think tank world. the bulletin of the atomic scientists board are no more expert at global affairs than a ha

>> guest: well, i mean, look, jim baker and his lifelong friend george h. w. bushs the present when he was secretary of state, their great accomplishment in many respects was sort of midwife in the largely peaceful end of the cold war. in many respects they forged and unique partnership action with a kill gorbachev and his foreign minister, and for them it was a partnership that met the difference between civility and a world not in crisis in the opposite. when you see how hostile and adversarial relations have become with russian and with vladimir putin over time, you realize how differently it could have turned out. so i think baker met many times with gorbachev, and he would say that that wase the defining moment for both of them. >> host: why james baker? why did you choose to write 600 pages about james baker? >> guest: it's a very fast read. >> host: i don't endorse books and i recommend it to do nobody had done a biography which was fastened. most sacred is the state seems like it's a what another somebody writes a biography even if they werera not all that

these countries were targeted by the george h w bush, or george w bush, the senior vice president of ronald reagan and bribed with hundreds of millions of dollars. and these monies were given the countries in exchange for their acquiescence and their submission to american military and economic and political objectives. no ring of nato military bases is being formed around russia. the u. s. nato have over 600 military base. his world wide. russia has just 18, but the west still claims that russia has aggressive intent by turning those russians, the soviets, and to this dangerous boy, man that wants to take over the world. that was a conscious strategy to create this image at the soviets. as out for world conquest, which was not the case, then or now, ah, nato should have died, but they will give it meaning. it is about infect, created by nato native business machine because you must remember if nature, what is bad, that shareholders in united states and elsewhere in lodge obs companies would lose millions and millions. they'd only have one year instead of 2 yards each there. oh dear,

of the most contentious debates, the 1980 republican primary, was between ronald, reagan and george h. w. bushimmigration policies in this country. 42 years, 43 years ago. 2007, george w. bush, john mccain and teddy kennedy almost got to a deal. i was on john mccain's campaign, and he said if it costs money can't buy campaign, but we get the job done, it will have been worth it. that kind of thinking is long on. >> it certainly, as we are currently at a moment of divisive rhetoric, on what we need more than anything is comprehensive immigration reform. we, galen jason, jonathan great have you both here, i really appreciate it. when we come, back some positive news, back to buffalo, just one week after collapsing on the football field. tamara hamlin is out of the cincinnati hospital, what we know about his incredible recovery, in the voter ahead, an 11th hour continues. 1th hour continues for copd, ask your doctor about breztri. breztri gives you better breathing, symptom improvement, and helps prevent flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not fo

i had the chance when he was president to sit down with president george h. w. bush to talk about the news of the day, and he spent half the time talking about his good friend, barbara accountable. when you're doing a big with the president, you want to talk about the news as jonathan martin can attest to. he respected the institution of congress, and that's what makes the diary so fascinating. certainly, part of the greatest generation, his service as a marine corps, service to congress, service to the world bank, and nobody covered it better than our moderator tonight, the great l hunt, who will lead the conversation. l, i will turn to do -- thank you for being with us, and enjoy the conversation. >> thank you, steve. welcome to the way we were. it's a lot better than the way we are. this is a treat. i think this is a really important book. i will elaborate on that in a minute. it's about an extraordinary figure. sometimes, i will talk to college students, and they will say, who were the most significant people you covered in congress? it's easy to talk about, o'ne

and how can you vote for this guy when your own friend george h. w. bush didn't vote for him? and george w. bush didn't vote for him. it was a constant source of conversation in which he never fully give us the answer that we really understood. his aunt is look i'm a a republican. he's a leader of my party. i don't want democrats in there. i always thought it was also though ai part of his nature, hs nature is not t be on the outside throwing rocks but to be on inside because on the inside in some small way even though he doesn't need any power or influence you have a chance to have some impact. >> guest:in look, it is the conundrum of the modern republican party. in many ways we finally realize like of the subject of your biography is telling you again and again and again the same answer, you have to listen to them. what was he telling us? i think he was certainly helping us to understand how it is possible that donald trump could have become the candidate of the republican party twice. many, many people were like jim baker, they didn't necessarily agree with donald trump on m

gifted to the president of the united states at camp david, commissioned in 1991 during president george h. w. bush. how did president get to camp david? you talked about fdr with the driving distance but historically they don't drive to camp david anymore. is that correct? >> not ideally. we prefer to bring them in by helicopter. eisenhower was the first to come in by that. weather permitting, they will fly in on h. and s1, or the white top as we call. it if inclement weather they can come by motorcade from when they were last part two point was. >> camp david is a presidential retreat, yet we know presidents often find themselves working at camp david. tell us a bit on how it functions as a white house in the maryland mountains. >> thank you. most people recognize, no matter who is the president, you are always going to be on duty. there could be a lot of critiques about what you do when you are off duty, or how you do your job, but the fact is you are always on duty. it is the presidency. you need time off. we all need time of. in addition to a second home that some presidents have, some do not,

social security h was increased under george w. bush, that affected me. it used to be 60 and 65, now it is 62 and 67. the people who are affected by that have not even gotten up to the social security age yet. myself being one of them. the longevity for the working class has been going down in the united states, going up for super rich people. but longevity in the united states is going down for the working class. so raising the age is ridiculous. host: knowing your uncertainty about potential benefits for you with social security, what are you doing personally -- how much is social security a part of your planning for retirement? what else are you doing to mitigate any loss of social security income? caller: i have done what i can. i have a 401(k), i am one of the few people my age and younger that have a little bit of a pension coming up. i might be ok. i think -- i would suggest c-span has alex lawson from social security works on to talk about social security and medicare. he is a plethora of knowledge, i'm sure you've heard of him. that would be a gr

social security h was increased under george w. bush, that affected me.t used to be 60 and 65, now it is 62 and 67. the people who are affected by that have not even gotten up to the social security age yet. myself being one of them. the longevity for the working class has been going down in the united states, going up for super rich people. but longevity in the united states is going down for the working class. so raising the age is ridiculous. host: knowing your uncertainty about potential benefits for you with social security, what are you doing personally -- how much is social security a part of your planning for retirement? what else are you doing to mitigate any loss of social security income? caller: i have done what i can. i have a 401(k), i am one of the few people my age and younger that have a little bit of a pension coming up. i might be ok. i think -- i would suggest c-span has alex lawson from social security works on to talk about social security and medicare. he is a plethora of knowledge, i'm sure you've heard of him. that would be a grea