george h.b. bush, looking back at the election says one of the reasons he thought he lost in 1992 was the special prosecutor from iran/contra coming out and levying an indictment against cap weinberg, the defense secretary. that's an indictment that was later dropped in december after the election. george h.b. bush blamed that announcement from federal law enforcement essentially for having tilted things against him at the very last minute. we're seeing some shades of that kind of thing, too, with this fbi. >> i don't want to challenge his integrity because i have the highest regard for the president, but at the same time he was also facing ross perot. the ross perot factor getting almost 20% of the vote. no one thought he would get that high. but he got to 19%. that's a big dent in probably votes that would have gone to president bush. so it was probably a combination of the two. by the way, the special prosecutor was not at all happy about the indictment being dropped against cap weinberger. he thou

george h.b. -- george h.w. bush, read my lips new york new taxes. people not only read his lips, they heard his voice, loud and clear. there are equivalent problems that an incoming president would 2017. if donald trump decided that maybe the wall wasn't going to be built or that mexico couldn't be forced to pay for it, or if secretary clinton, then president clinton, decided that maybe t.p.p. was just a fine and dandy agreement after all, there would be hell to pay politically. so big promises matter. never imagine that they don't. anita: good point. >> i'm hoping you could talk a little bit more about the cabinet member selection process, particularly the lower tiers, so like agriculture, labor, something like that, how do they go about sort of compiling a list of potential nominees and then narrowing that down? anita: i think we both can speak to that a little bit but yes, going back to the point, personnel is policy and although these may be considered, you knowing lower tier departments and agencies they are still running huge budgets and lots