served as deputy secretary of state and for a short time secretary of state under president george h.w. bush. he played a pivotal role during the fall of the berlin wall and the end of the cold war. eagleburger was 80 years old. >>> a gathering of christian conservatives in washington is a big deal for almost every republican presidential candidate. they're all there. former u.s. senator rick santorum talks about what sets him apart from other gop contenders. >> i had always been pro life, for traditional marriage. but i had always been like a lot of folks. a lot of folks said, weren't here last year that came this year, who come and make the pledge, vow to social conservatives that they'll check the boxes, they'll be for the things that social conservatives care about. ladies and gentlemen, i just don't take the pledge, i take the bullets. >> rick santorum saying i've always been here. where have you all been? the two-day event wraps up with keynote speech of gop presidential candidate herman kaine. >>> casey anthony's murder trial recessed for the rest of the weekend. they were in session

george h.w. bush. back in 1992, unemployment went up 8%. it started getting steady around election year. george h.w. bush was telling the truth when he said numbers were getting better. the voters here in new hampshire and around the country didn't believe it. they didn't feel it, and they said goodbye, mr. president. that's what the worry is in this stagnant economy. >>> the five most important issues to voters have one thing in common. i'll tell you what on the other side. ♪ you love money ♪ well, you know i love it too ♪ ♪ you love money ♪ well, you know i love it too ♪ ♪ i work so hard at my job ♪ and then i bring it home to you ♪ ♪ i love money in my pocket a we don't go lower than 130. ts a room tonight for 65 dollars. big deal, persuade him. is it wise to allow a perishable item to spoil? he asked, why leave a room empty? the additional revenue easily covers operating costs. 65 dollars is better than no dollars. okay. $65 for tonight. you can't argue with a big deal. >>> the economy remains issue number one to voters, the only one tha

he was ambassador to yugoslavia for jimmy carter and served as secretary of state during the george h.w. bush administration. the cause of death was pneumonia. he was 80 years old. in this week's youtube address, president obama discusses the state of the u.s. auto industry and its relation to the rest of the economy, including unemployment and the federal deficit. republican senator lamar alexander of tennessee delivers the republican response. talks about the role of unions, including auto industry, and praises the policies of so- called right to work states. this is 10 minutes. >> hello, everyone. i'm speaking to you today from a chrysler plant in toledo, ohio, where i just met with workers, including jill. jill was born and raised here. her mother and step-father retired from this plant. and she met her husband here, and now they have two children of their own. this plant has not only been central to the economy of this town. it's been a part of the lifeblood of this community. the reason i came to toledo was to congratulate jill and her co-workers on the turnaround they helped bring abou

the economy made jimmy carter and george h.w. bush into one- term president. are we giving up for a repeat, nina? >> it is impossible to know that at this point -- >> never admit that on television. [laughter] >> it all depends on how much the opposition is and how much of a santa claus. on economics decanted it is pushing. -- said the cause. on economics at the cannes -- santa claus theory on economics that the person is pushing. you need more money coming in polley for revenue increases, partly from a better economy. i think everybody is pretty scared right now -- >> the basic strategy, as best he has let it out, is to win by default, to hope that the republicans screw up and have the economy improved enough so that he gets elected and not have to actually do anything harder significant -- hard or significant. this economic problem we are having calls into question -- he might have to come out and do something before the election. >> when you state republican its crop, do you mean choosing someone who is unelectable? >> somebody who is too far to the right.

[laughter] my favorite professional memory of larry, when president george h.w. bush sent us on secret missions to consult with our european allies about u.s. military drawdowns in europe. we always started with prime minister thatcher, figuring that if we could get pastor, the rest would be a breeze. the second time around, she greeted us in her parlor at no. 10 and said, frostily, will you not take your custom seats? later, as she was walking us out, she smiled warmly and said, you two are always welcome in my house. her face then froze and she continued -- but never again on this subject. in a conversation shortly thereafter with president bush, she referred to the two of us as twiddle dum and tweedle dee. [laughter] larry and i would argue for years about who was which. [laughter] that same trip, we met with chancellor kohl and looked out at the rhine. i watched in off as coal and larry, between them, the art and entire platter of huge german pastries and made history as they did so. the only person even more independent-minded than larry was marlene. i will never

they show that george h.w. bush had a big lead a year and half ago before the election in 1992. and, of course, he lost. so did ronald reagan. ronald reagan was trailing oil, and i'll -- ronald reagan was trailing walter mondale by 11 points at this point. the enomy went down in bush 41's case. you are a prisoner, a captive of economic events. >> one of the interesting things is that some of this is going on in europe, and some economists are beginning to wonder -- everybody agrees we have to cut the deficit. but people are beginning to wonder whether you put in these kinds of a draconian measures at the time of a recession, that it could exacerbate problems, and that we should perhaps think about doing this in a slightly different way. >> we are not thinking about doing it at all, that is the problem. the central fact of life is debt. we had been living beyond ourur means, europe has been living beyond its means, social democracy has been living beyond their means for a long time. the only way out of that is doing things that people don't want to do, and the politicians are una

that school's 1st baseman, george h.w. bush. reporting live at berkeley, kraig debro, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> back to allie rasmus for a look at traffic this morning. she's in for sal. how's it going, allie? >>> pam, i think there are a lot of people on vacation or drivers taking the day off because there's not a lot of traffic out there. show you the cameras outside starting with highway 4 at bay point. no delays as you head westbound. and over on the east shore freeway it's a little crowded as you make your way towards the bay bridge toll plaza. but traffic is moving at the speed limit there. and over on the san mateo bridge traffic moving nicely in both directions. time now is 6:10. here's steve. >>> allie, thank you. we have fog out there but high pressure going to nose in for about two days, maybe two and a half. so warmer monday and tuesday. wednesday's kind of questionable. i've seen a couple forecast projections. one says that's it screeching halt starts to cool things down. another says hold on inland for one more day.

he served as secretary of state in the final months of the george h.w. bush administration. he was called a tireless and dedicated patriot. dead at the age of 80. let's go to the weather and our country continues to be in the headlines. this time it's fires and flood causing so much anxiety. jacky is here with us. arizona is seeing some of the worst wildfires in history. >> one of the largest is in eastern parts of arizona and that continues to rage at this hour. check out the pictures that consumed 140,000 acres and that makes it the third largest wildfire in arizona history. 2500 people have been evacuate and this is continuing to grow. dry weather and extreme heat along with gusty winds making conditions worse. smoke is visible in albuquerque, new mexico. let's move on to the floods and that's where 180 mile an hour stretch from sioux city along the missouri river where a record release of water is expected in the coming days and weeks ahead. hundreds people had to evacuate and many small towns are expected to be flood. these waters should stay high through the month of j

he rose to the post of secretary of state and served richard nixon to george h.w. bush.riot. >> the its tenth day. she's charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter caylee in 2008. testimony today focused on hair recovered from anthony's car. an fbi technician testified the hair did not belong to casey anthony but could have come from her daughter's decomposing body. antho anthony's attorney called it unreliable opinion. a special report at 10:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. >>> so i have to warn you the video you're about to see is hard to watch. it is a magic act that goes horribly wrong. if you are squeamish, close your eyes. >> three, two, one! [ screaming ] >> i should have closed my eyes. it happened thursday night at the atlanta motor speedway. michael moony who goes by the stage name moodini was supposed to slip out of handcuffs while being attached to a race car. this time he was dragged down the track. >> i was crying. it was just excruciating pain. >> let me ask the question everybody is thinking when they see it. what were you thinking? >> well, i have been ent

ambassador to singapore, appointed by george h.w. bush. ambassador to china, appointed by barack ob'ma. two, executive branch, huntsman has served four u.s. presidents. three, moderate politics. huntsman is a supporter of green energy and equal rights for same-sex unions. that means he can steal independent votes from obama in the general election. those factors are the said that huntsman candidacy made plplplp why did huntsman declare his intention to declare his candidacy instead of just declaring his candidacy? pat buchanan? >> you got a couple separate headlines but is delaying long. he didn't show up for the new hampshire debate. john this, guy is the wends el wilkie of 2012. >> wilkie lost. >> well, he's the media candidate show being imposed upon the repuican party. i've never seen sump a build-up for a candidate who is at zaire or 1% in the polls. he's not no general did, no cutting-edge issue. he's not been a leader of the party. sure, he's got a shot to get into this thing, john. but he is nowhere in iowa now and i do don't see h

. >> i had kind of a soft spot for george h.w. bushso i wrote... >> sure. >> ...i wrote a longer poem about him when he left the white house, which was, fair. you know, george bush is not a good rhyme. >> you'd think it would, a lot of things would rhyme with bush... >> exactly, but... >> ...you'd think. >> tush rhymes with... >> not, not a word, by the way, we say in texas very much, tush. >> well, it's disrespectful to the president, so i never used that. >> is it? >> yes, it's not good. so fortunately he had a lot of middle names, george herbert walker bush, so i wrote a poem that was: farewell to you, george herbeet walker. though never famous as a talker, your predicates were often prone to wander nounless, off alone. [laughter] you did your best in our own way, the way of greenwich country day, so just relax and take your ease and never order japanese. [laughter] >> pretty good. that was eight lines, so... [applause] >> that was, i was willing to sacrifice... >> they didn't pay you more for that one? >> no. >> no, no, of course n

george h.w. bush super carrier which is the most advanced military vessel in the world is the largest of the u.s. naval hospital it's on its maiden voyage to the mediterranean to join up with the sick creek in naples and. this area is a quick search with aircraft helicopters close to six thousand. troops are all the sailors marines and so on and this doesn't send the right messages out within the framework of a resolute united simply in shell all this stuff calls last week of the g. eight. russia joined in with for colonel gadhafi to go but only if it's done diplomatically you know at the time as you know that initiative was praised and encouraged that we see this nato extending its operation for three more months why won't they stop the airstrikes and let russia try diplomacy. well that they've already decided all the major war theory. and their objective is to send you into total submission just now you have to read between the lines that's why president obama was in london. for all of his official

it or not the details are emerging from the archives belonging to both presidents nixon and george h.w. bush c. roger ailes started his reign of terror as a media consultant who are these two former presidents and the concept of fox news emerged while he was working for the nixon administration ailes and his peers wanted to create programming that was ministration and then offer that up as an option to what he viewed as of course the liberal slanted media that was already all over the airwaves and was original concept was supposed to be filmed and aired straight out of the white house and written and produced to be the news of the documents are over three hundred pages long here i think this paragraph or one of the first pages of the treasure trove really gives you a gist of what else was looking for and it's actually titled a plan for putting the g.o.p. on t.v. news the following today a television news is watched more often than people read newspapers than people listen to radio than people read or gather any other form of communication the reason people are lazy with television you just s

and i would argue that president obama even went further than george h.w. bush in terms of pushing israel little bit in terms of especially when he talked about in a recent speech about the one thousand nine hundred sixty seven borders he's gone he's gone pretty far and a lot of people are saying that this resolution that this bill proposed is sort of a political game that this is pushing back against obama and making sure that he knows that he can't get on israel to as you mentioned the numerous standing ovations i know i just got back from europe yesterday and people there were absolutely shocked you know it's one thing for us politicians behind closed doors to support israel but to be so blatant in their support people not in this country people everywhere else were extremely shocked that the entire u.s. congress seems to be in this position to talk about that. well listen obama has been careful throughout his entire career when it really matters not to cross the lobby and in fact right before the election of two thousand and eight he made an absolutely shame

he served american presidents from richard nixon to george h.w. bush. mr.lled eagleburger a tireless and dedicated patriot. >>> sunday marks the 30th anniversary of aids. u.s. health officials first reported it as a rare form of pneumonia on june 5th, 1981. today i spoke an african-american woman who made several panels for aids memorial quilt. she herself is hiv positive and tonight she's what matters. >> what i do when i make the quilt panels i make them so in the statistics where we hear about it's 30 million people every day or whatever, each panel represents a person. >> right. >> and i made the guilt so that we'll know it's not just a number. this was a person in my life that i love. >> this is ricardo, someone you loved? >> yes. >> let's take a look at this one. which one is this one. >> i'll take ricardo. >> this is a brother and a sister. >> this is my mom and my uncle. and this talks, shows pictures when they were kids. as they've grown up. >> you seem you get a little emotional when you talk about this. >> i do. i do. not only is it putting a fac

he served american presidents from nixon to george h.w. bushburger a tireless patriot. >>> those are the headlines this hour. we return tow you're to "murder abroad: the amanda knox story" right now. >>> one of italy's most notorious murder trials. the case was getting underway, basing his case mainly on circumstantial evidence. the prosecutor guilianio mignini would present witnesses, one who claims to have seen the couple near the home the night of the murder. two others would come forward, one saying they heard a scream. another one also hearing footsteps running in different directions, but magnini would also present scientific evidence, he said, that proves amanda and rafaelle's gift. rafaelle's skin cells on meredith's bra clasp collected 46 days after police first showed up at the murder. and what one expert called an inconclusive sample of what could have been meredith's dna found on a knife collected at rafaelle's apartment. on the handle of the knife, amanda's dna. according to prosecutor magnini, because the victim had never been to

national security affairs for presidents nixon and ford, and national security adviser for ford and george h.w. bush. during his long association with the republicans administrations, he was also tapped by president-elect president obama to head his national security team. as an academic as well as an international business consultant. he has served on numerous advisory councils involving military and national security issues. we look forward to hearing his unique perspective and ability to provide us with a timely overview of the difficult form policy jaundice facing our nation today. ladies and jonah, please give a warm national press club welcome to general brent scowcroft. [applause] >> thank you very much. it is nice to be with you today. it is written see this great turnout. i'm a little surprised since i have said everything i know last year. [laughter] on the other hand, since my remarks were first listed as brent scowcroft to criticize obama foreign-policy challenges at the national press club, maybe that's why you're all here. [laughter] no red meat. i hesitate to say. i would like to cong

george w. bush and all three seeing unemployment rise in their first term and all three were able to win reelection. for the other recent commander in chief, jimmy carter and george h.w. bush could not bring it down and we know what happened. could this be a mixed bag over presidential history or is there a determining factor? >> we would rather have lower than higher, but axelrod is right. what story can you tell the public and can you indicate progress is under way and it's slow and started a few months before the election? if you have more reports like on friday where they are moving sideways, they will have a lot of trouble. there is 18 months to go. not just unemployment, but inflation and gdp and consumer confidence. looking at the big picture of the broad-based measures, you get a better sense of what you can have together about where the economy is haddeeaded. >> no american president won a second term in office when the rate on election day tops 7.2%. the 7.2% number goes back to ronald reagan, but that would have easily come out ahead even with the higher number being a possibility. >> reagan won by 18 points over waller mondale. he hit unemployment at 7.2%

he served as sex tear of state underment george h.w. busharly '80s. >>> john edwards says he did not break the law. he pleaded not guilty yesterday to charges of conspiracy and campaign law violations. prosecutors say edwards broke the law when he accepted $900,000 to hide an affair with a campaign worker. >>> testimony in the murder trial of casey anthony is in a new phase today, getting into the scientific evidence of the florida mom accused of killing her daughter caylee in 2008. it's talking about microscopic evidence found in the trunk of her car. sean lavin is outside the courthouse in orlando. people are grasping that they're having court on saturday mornings. one of the reasons is that the judge wants to get this see questions centered jury back home as soon as possible. get us up to speed on who was on the stand this morning. >> reporter: that's right. they brought the jury in from pinellas county, about an hour and a half away. they want this over with. this morning casey anthony came into court about 9:00 a.m., then we had the fbi

he's doing well in new hampshire, that's partly because nobody wanted to run against george h.w. bushity. at that moment i said, no. he cannot survive this. >> never seen anything like it. stay with us. much more ahead on tonight's bombshell story jennifer flowers telephone tapes of her conversations with her lover, governor bill clinton democratic candidate for president. at bayer, we're re-inventing aspirin for pain relief. with new extra-strength bayer advanced aspirin. it has microparticles, enters the bloodstream faster and rushes relief to the site of pain. it's clinically proven to relieve pain twice as fast. new bayer advanced aspirin. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? ♪ that's why right here, in australia, chevron is building one of the biggest natural gas projects in the world. enough power for a city the size of singapore for 50 years. what's it going to do to the planet? natural gas is the cleanest conventional fuel there is. we've got to be smart about this. it's a smart way to go. ♪ >>> and we're back in 1992 on the day when jennifer flowers pla

h.w. bush's re-election bid. rise to the position of secretary of state. cnn has also just received a statement from former george h.w. bush, larry was the real deal. principal to the core and selflessly devoted to america and barbara and i mourn the loss of a true friend. lawrence eagleburger was 80, 80 years old. >>> we turn to the casey anthony trial now. exactly what did investigators find in the trunk of her car? the evidence front and center this morning. and everything cha. ♪ i saw what my life could be... and found the strength to make it happen. ♪ i lost my leg serving my country. now i serve in a new uniform. [ male announcer ] helping people achieve without limits. at the hartford it's what we do... and why we're the founding partner of the u.s. paralympic team. show your support at facebook.com/thehartford. [ male announcer ] when you come to new york from a place like detroit, no one expects you to influence the world of fashion. but when you grew up surrounded by rock 'n' roll and heavy industry, you just might make a name for yourself. ♪ that's what a blue-collar attitude can do in a white-collar w

he served as a reagan political aide was in singapore for george h.w. bush, representative for george w. bush and as you know, as you said there in the most recent time -- so in addition to his utah governorship. so he does have this broad sort of political resume that he brings to the table. >> would you consider him a good gorve of utah -- good governor of utah. >> it's going to run on that record. he was voted the best managed state in the country. you're going to see it in adds, in all of -- ads and all of his vehicle mail to voters. he has a peculiar to the nomination. you can't just win the nomination based on your biography of el telling the story of who you are, you've got to go through the voters essentially. and he's not in step with the republican primary voters on some issues. >> are democrats or more likely other republicans going to bring up that as the president did in that clip that he actually worked for president obama that he's going to replace. >> no doubt. it's the easiest thing for other contenders on the nomination to say while you wer

my grandfather, former president george h.w. bush, just recently turned 87, but my grandmother barbara bush, the silver fox, aka the enforcer within the bush family, executed her veto in restricting him from jumping out of a perfectly fine plane once again. however, he will jump out again when he is 90 and we're all looking forward to seeing that happen. some of you might have saw last week he received an honorary law degree from dort mouth along with conan o'brien -- from dartmouth along with conan o'brien, making the third lawyer in the family joining my family and i. i guess so much for tort reform within the bush family. received the presidential medal of freedom very recently, which is considered the highest honor giving to a civilian in our country. he just thought it was cool because he got to meet bill russell and stan the man musial. all of these events culminated in an event at kennedy center and a tribute to his foundation, the points of life, which we all members of the bush family are able to enjoy with him and celebrate

george w. bush, he's going to probably fall to the fate of george h.w. in 2012 if this continues. >> how is he going to convince people, well, he doesn't have to, but the talk will be out there that politics was driving his decision on afghanistan. you know, september, they'll all be gone, just a couple of months to make sure all these troops are out? a couple of months before the election? a lot of people say that just doesn't look good. >> well, i think what he does is he points back to what he has said from the very beginning when he started campaigning. he's always said that afghanistan needs to be where we put our focus and where he actually -- when he announced the troop mobilization in december of 2009, he chartered three objectives, which he was able to say that we have done. one of those was to be able to diminish al qaeda's power. we've killed 20 or 30 of their leaders, including osama bin laden. we've reduced the impetus of the taliban, and they've been able to train 100,000 afghan security forces, so that they can start taking responsibility f

george w. bush. previously he served as a member of the president's council of economic advisors during the george h.wbush administration. he's also served on congressional budget offices, economic advisory panel. dr. taylor has a long list of publications to his name and a recent book entitled "getting off track: how government actions and interventions cause prolonged and worsened the financial crisis." he's a frequent contributor to the editorial page at the "wall street journal" and other widely read publications on the state of the economy. he earned his ph.d. in economics at stanford university. welcome, dr. taylor. simon johnson is a ronald a. professor of entrepreneurship at the sloan school of management at the massachusetts institute of technology. he's a senior fellow of the peterson institute for international economics and a member of the congressional budget office of economic advisory panel. dr. johnson previously held the position of economic counselor at the international monetary fund and was the director of its research department. he's a co-director of national bureau of research a

i thought it was really interesting the reference to george h.w. bush's reelection bid. >> steven, give me some sense of whether or not we have unrealistic expectations of the presidency and from government when it comes to the economy. >> well, what's the hold saying, sets it's the economy, stupid. that's going to be the theme of this election just as it has been almost every presidential election that i can remember, ali. for better or worse, presidents get blamed for bad economies and they get the credit when the economy does well. look, after four years of a president not turning the economy around, i think it's time to fire that person. if the economy is better next year f we get that employment rate down to below 8.5% or 8%, i think the president is going to be in much firmer footing. but it's going to be hard for president obama to make the case if we still have 9% unemployment and running the $1.5 trillion deficit. >> stephen forgets the last time we dangerously pulled up on spending in the midst of a great depression. that was an example of place

gerald ford, jimmy carter, and george h.w. bush.me solace on this page in history -- ronald reagan beat walter mondale in a landslide re-election bid in 1984, even though the jobless rate was 7.2%. unemployment had been on the downswing and voters apparently trusted reagan to keep it going. and he did. four years later, unemployment was 5.3%. the obama administration hopes to tell a similar story, but remember, the unemployment rate was 7.8% when the president took office. 9.1% today. jobs, the economy and 2012, former white house insiders anita dunn and ed gillespie are next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] thanks to advanced natural gas turbine technology from ge, the power that will help make our nation more energy independent is right here in america. [ crickets chirping ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] advanced gas turbine technology from ge. ♪ >>> joining me now, former white house communications director anita dunn and ed gillespie, the former rnc chairman and counselor to president george w. bush. welcome you, both. let me start with th

he was secretary of state for george h.w. bush in the early 1990's and served in the state department under the right and administration. in 1984, he became president of a consulting firm founded by henry kissinger. at his memorial service this week, officials from the state department including secretary of state clinton and former secretary of state kissinger honored his life and work. >> some folks to come to washington are lessons in their own mind, but not lawrence eagleburger. he came to our nation's capital filled with more than hopes of fame. he did such a wonderful job that he became a legend in the minds of everyone who knew him. wisconsin doctor and his schoolteacher wife, this onetime u.s. army lt. became quite simply a superb american diplomat. when he was first suggested to me that larry might be a perfect deputy, i had serious reservations. after all, he was a walking medical miracle who relied and the assistance of canes and plume of cigarette smoke always seemed to follow him wherever he went. i liked button-down.

leader, he's good at protecting them which is what george bush had in aces and had held up for a long time. it is a really important variable. >> george h.woreign policy and leadership too and he lost in 1992 because people thought the economy was heading south and it was not getting better. let's dig deeper. washington post/abc news, how is the president handling his job overall. 47% approval, 49% disapprove. how is he handling the economy? 40% approve, 59% disapprove. six in ten americans disapprove of the president's handling of the economy. this in a poll that came out days after the government says unemployment is 9.1%. that is a problem for any incumbent. >> it is a problem. let's be clear, in the end, this election is going to come down to a choice. it is going to -- president obama or whoever the republican nominee, which, by the way, i'm not sure it is going to be romney. he's up four or five points over palin now. it is who they trust more to deal with the economy, who they trust more to understand that the problems with their lives now. that said, given where the unemployment is right now if you look at where reagan was with jo

state department for just five months back in 1992 when james baker resigned to run president george h.w. bush's secretary of state, lawrence eagleburger dead at 80 years old. >>> here we are now about seven minutes to the top of the hour bringing back in for our morning passport, nadia. you had a chance to talk to someone who doesn't do a whole lot of sit down and talking, especially at her home in south africa. >> i sent her a video of our passport and she took one look at you and said -- >> she knows how to flatter me here. >> she said just tell that t.j. holmes. winnie mandela. the fascinating winnie mandela. she has been condemned and criticized and people in south africa call her mother of the nation because she still has this enormous grassroots support. she still lives in the township. people will knock at the door and she'll invite them in and she's very hospitable and truly loved and revered along with being criticized and hated. she becomes this mythical complex and historical character who was definitely an inrgal part. she was under house arrest for 9 1/2 years, huresarassed rele s

three of them lost -- gerald ford, jimmy carter, and george h.w. bush.obama can find some solace on this page in history -- ronald reagan beat walter mondale in a landslide re-election bid in 1984, even though the jobless rate was 7.2%. unemployment had been on the downswing and voters apparently trusted reagan to keep it going. and he did. four years later, unemployment was 5.3%. the obama administration hopes to tell a similar story, but remember, the unemployment rate was 7.8% when the president took office, 9.1% today. jobs, the economy and 2012, former white house insiders anita dunn and ed gillespie are next. ask me what it's like when my tempur-pedic moves. talk to someone who owns an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. ask me about my tempur advanced ergo. ask me about having all the right moves. these are real tempur advanced ergo owners. find one for yourself. try your friends on facebook. see what they have to say unedited. ask me what it's like to get a massage any time you want. tempur-pedic brand owners are mor

morning, what popped into my head was a very similar instance in 1991 involves johnson, who was george h.w. bush'sf staff. somebody leaked to my colleague, m. mcdaniel and me at "newsweek" that this man had used a white house driver to drive him 4 1/2 hours to a show in new york city. bush 41 was none too pleased. a few months later, sununu was out of there. and so it's about the appearance of impropriety. nobody's going to begrudge him going to see his son's baseball game. it's hard to imagine that that -- going there and using state assets to do that had anything to do with official business. >> he's saying everybody's got to tighten their belt a little bit. i interviewed an assembly woman from new york who has been a critic of the governor. this gives you a sense of how the democrats will go after him for this. take a listen. >>, you know, it's all about perception, and reality, and this governor is an example of do as i say, not as i do. we, right now, are down in trenton, you know, going through budgetary items, trying to restore funding for women's health issues, for seniors for tax relief.

the presidents that maybe seemed to get it more than the others in the way we talk about it is george h.w. bush who spoke about burying the vietnam in the sands of arabia. he went to a certain point in the gulf war, came out working successfully at that point and a year later he lost the election to bill clinton, but at that point he did seem like he had learned the lessons in a way some of the others presidents didn't. >> woodruff: is there a president, marvin kalb, who least understood the lessons of vietnam? >> well, it's a funny thing. i think they all understood in the their own way. for example, ronald reagan, when 241 marines were murdered in their barracks in beirut in october of 1983 reagan wrote in these marvelous letters "the american people have been spooked" that's his verb "by the experience in vietnam and i don't want to give them another vietnam and so we're not doing to do anything." so he pulled american troops out of lebanon. >> woodruff: you do bring it right up to the future, deborah kalb, in writing about what president obama is dealing with today. you both write that pres

certainly the first george h.w. bush, he had a rotten economy. . and his opponent exploited it masterfully, bill clinton. so they've got plenty to worry about in the white house. on the other hand, there are presidents, fdr had double-digit unemployment, up around 15,16%. he got re-elected both in '36 and in 19406789 and even ronald reagan. his recession peaked at close to 11% unemployment. and he knocked a full three points off it and got re-elected resoundingly in 1984. so they've got cause to be worried. but it's still too early to reng down the curtain on this one. >> i want to ask you about this, but busst because you know new york congressman anthony wiener. you've known him for years. you introduce -- interviewed him this week. what do you make over the controversy of the photographs sent from his twitter account? >> first of all i saw at least one accounting of how you could very easily sort of spoof or fake such a photo. so i wouldn't rule that out. everybody seems to be saying, why doesn't the congressman simply say x, y or z. and i think

did bush, george h.w. bush?were all in a debt. >> juan, we were not as deeply in debt as we are now. the public has not raised the alarm the way the public has now on this issue. all this talk about markets going, world going crazy and triggering a recession is based on the idea that we would somehow default on our debt obligation, our loan repayment. but there will always be a stream tax revenue from withholding coming in to easily enable to us cover those obligation. but there is a problem that relates to government programs. not government debt. >> right. >> government program. >> right. >> if there was no extension of the debt limit, the tax revenues would not be sufficient to cover all the government programs and this gives the white house and the treasury department some leverage, political leverage to pick and choose which programs to shut down. and then send out warning letters to the people affected by it in saying because, you know, the republicans refuse to extend the debt ceiling the payments to this

in the context of a campaign we spent a lot of time covering in 1992, both in our teens, when george h.w. bushter. unemployment got up near 8% then started coming down closer to the election. he kept saying it is getting better and guess what? the voters had just decided no it's not. the right track wrong track in this country was at 76% wrong track in october, 1992. even though the numbers were on president bush's side back then, he could not break through. could president obama have the same problem? >> well, yeah. he could have the same problem. bush had another problem which was that he was running against a genius campaigner of my political lifetime. i mean, bill clinton really knew how to make a case. barack obama on the other hand has gotten himself into -- trapped into issues that the american people don't care all that much about. he spent the first year of his presidency on health care reform when people were concerned about the economy and jobs. now since he lost in the 2010 election he's been focusing on deficit reduction, long-term deficit reduction, which like health care reform