george h.w. bush. reagan turns out to be a more interesting character in a good way and and now weird with anybody recognized. he was nuclear abolitionist that's why he was so keen on star wars defense and the shield to shoot down every missile coming this way. he may have been two or three people who believe that the program was about he's doing incredibly provocative thinks his first year and with the nsa then you really think were trying to launch our first strike and america reacts accordingly and he is horrified so that's not what he meant so there are transcripts of meetings that we need to reach out to these people by the time that happens gorbachev is in the soviet union and for the first time in 1985 that first it is very tense so they decide that it's just the two of them and their translators. and at one point reagan says if the united states are to be attacked by aliens in the united states would russia contort offense and gorbachev says absolutely i said on - - reagan that i feel the same

george h.w. bush, when pat buchanan comes out of a tv studio and he is getting a third of republican vote, it suggested bush might be vulnerable in november, and he turned out to be. peter: in 1996 seven states participated in super tuesday. bob dole clinched it. steve forbes and pat buchanan had to drop out. do you know why it dipped to seven states? and where were you at this point in your career in 1996? covering super tuesday? carl: i was covering the clinton white house. we were going around the country, talking about the bridge to the 20th century. the fiscal conservatives in the senate had the bridge to nowhere. this was the bridge to the 21st century. we scratched our heads and so did the audiences but the economy was doing great and bill clinton was a great campaigner. dole wasver -- dole -- never much of a threat to him. at some point bob dole, here's a legitimate war hero. and clinton is going around telling all these whoppers and being glib. dole gets mad. where's the outrage? well, the ec

but george h.w. bushded himself to me when he wanted to learn about what hiv was because he wanted to do something about it. david: as you look back on your career, what would you say are the characteristics that make somebody a leader? dr. fauci: one of the things i tell people, because i feel it strongly, is if you are leading an organization of some sort, that has a purpose or a mandate, tell people, because i feel it that as the leader you have to articulate to the people you are leading exactly what your vision is and where you want the organization to go, because i have seen issues in which there was not good leadership, where an organization is almost rudderless. they don't know where they are supposed to be going. you don't dictate to people. if you let them know what your vision is, hire the best people, and then don't get in their way. that is the quality of a good leader. david: let's suppose i get an infectious disease and want to be one of your patients. how do i get to be one of your patient

now, i find this entirely credible because i've heard -- i heard -- george h.w. bush was a very good man. but i've heard a lot of his speeches and they did seem to be composed in that fashion. [ laughter ] now, if peter robinson were here or any of the great reagan speech writers, what they would say is that their method of writing a speech was to find out what reagan wanted to say. to go back to the mother lode to mine from things that reagan had said before, and that's how they put together his speeches. because reagan was his own best speech writer. and i think you'd say exactly the same thing is true about president obama. that president obama, i'm thinking now of the race speech, and if you think about a difficult political situation, the race speech is about as difficult a campaign situation as you can possibly be in. talking about the most impossible issue to talk about. and he had -- he had -- he had given instructions, and he gets the speech draft, and david axelrod -- it's his memoir that i have this story from. talks about how obama had stayed up until 2:00

doug weed is the former adviser to george h.w. bush and he joins us from tampa florida good to have you on the program mr wade 1st off now that cloak which are both john are. we seeing a coming together behind the moderates and how might that play out across the super tuesday states do you think. yeah i think so in fact that source super tuesday was born it was born out of a fear that the democratic party was going too far to the left in 1984 when ronald reagan trounced walter mondale and the democrats only carried one state so 2 southern governors bill clinton and chuck robb worked hard to bring southern states into the process and that created super tuesday so it looks like it's working it didn't work in 1908 when massachusetts governor michael dukakis won the nomination but it didn't work for clinton and it may work again and save biden and save the party from going too far to the left with bernie sanders we'll see bloomberg is in the mix spending money some polls show the latest polls showed him actually winning in oklahoma but his

so this is the all out plan until the administration starting with reagan and ending with george h.w. bush reagan turns out to be morei interestingg character in a good way and in a weird way. first of all reagan was a nuclear abolitionist why he was so keen on the star wars defensive shield so every missile coming your way would make it obsolete two or three people believe that's of the program was actually about. he is doing incredibly provocative things the first year the cia is doing currently provocative things then he gets wins they take this seriously that we are trying to launch a first strike he said he is horrified that's not what he meant we need to talk to them. that we need to dial this back. by the time that happens gorbachev is the head of theof soviet union and they meet for the first time in 1985 in geneva so they decided to take a walk that is just the two of them and their translators. and at one point reagan says if the united states were attacked by aliens of the united states would russia come to our defense the gorbachev says absolutely and reagan says i feel the sam

[laughter] so nowadays the presidents leaving office do you think about george h.w. bush who defeated him for a variety of good causes almost all the presidents have come together to begin a variety of causes. that you suggest to make washington more partisan how does this transpire? >> i think that's true he did become more partisan after he left the presidency. we do have a perception leaving office lifts the president above partisan views. but actually it was the exact opposite. he involved himself in congressional hearings and the way he never did as president. he supported the alien and sedition act that led to printers associated with the opposition party to be propped up. and also favored excluding members of the opposition party from high rank in the new army. and this was a partisan army and with washington's farewell address to say we are all reminded but during the last years of washington's life wrote letters to say they all had choice at this point to be a member of one party or the other and that was between the federalist and george washington was federalis

george h.w. bush pardoned casper weinberger after he was i dated. it was clearly an abuse.tack on flynn goes to the heart of the president's foreign powers pass commander-in-chief and exercising and conducting foreign policy. by attacking flynn over his communications with the russians during his time as national security advisor and during the period he was representing the president-elect. attacks the ability of the president to conduct foreign policy. he should do this to protect the presidency and secure justice. lou: it seems we agree more often than not. doesn't it. stay with us. we are coming right back. there's smart and then there's street smart, like a hybrid with best in class epa estimated range of more than five hundred eighty two miles. and ford co-pilot 360 technology to help you outsmart some of the things you'll encounter on the road. with more available second row leg room than a chevy suburban. this is the completely reimagined, street smart 2020 ford escape. lou: in our poll friday, we asked you how long do you believe the coronavirus outbreak will last

. >> george h.w. bush ran a terrific campaign. and i can remember that morning of the iowa caucuses. i was on an elevator and there's bush. and he said, hey, pat, i've got the big mo. and he meant the big momentum. >> it's a shocker to the world. i mean a shocker to the world. george bush wins the iowa caucuses. >> because of what's happened in iowa, we're going to go all the way to the white house. >> and he played into these fears, was reagan really up for this? maybe he wasn't the political heavyweight like people thought. >> i ran into reporter in iowa. and he told me, pat, he's a straw man. you punch him and straw comes out. >> how big is the wound to governor reagan? >> ronald reagan, for president, is effectively dead. >> president kennedy has been assassinated. >> i cannot bear this burden alone. >> lyndon johnson wants to earn the office in his own right. >> barry goldwater really was the embodiment of the american west. >> those attack commercials were pandora's box. >> it was just chaos. >> we figured out that we must b

that's how you unseat an incumbent president, like he did, with george h.w. bush, like he did in 1992. when you have a broken economy, that's when you get a one-term incumbent. these are important things, but things like healthcare, immigration. these other things really fall to the way side when unemployment is high, or when inflation is high, for example. that's what voters are really carrying about, sort of what's right in front of them. one of the issues we talked about, the coronavirus. one issue there is if it continues to impact american and global business, what will that do to the trump presidency? because then all of a sudden, you are going to be potentially faced with a situation where you have a problematic economy, and that is something republicans definitely do not want. that's why we're seeing a lot of allegations on both sides. democrats are saying republicans are down playing. republicans are saying democrats are getting hysterical. each side has a motive for doing what they're doing, and it's hard to sift through. we're all going to cdc.gov just

george h.w. bush pardoned casper weinberger after he was i dated. it was clearly an abuse.eign powers pass commander-in-chief and exercising and conducting foreign policy. by attacking flynn over his communications with the russians during his time as national security advisor and during the period he was representing the president-elect. attacks the ability of the president to conduct foreign policy. he should do this to protect the presidency and secure justice. lou: it seems we agree more often than not. doesn't it. stay with us. we are coming right back. tv sports announcer: five seconds left. oh ho! yeah, that's my man there. tv sports announcer: time out. let's go to a commercial. nooooooo! not another commercial! when you bundle your home, auto and life insurance with allstate you could save 25%. in fact, the more you bundle the more you can save. put the other game on if it's important to you allstate can protect it. ...home auto and life insurance you could save 25%. if it's important to you allstate can protect it. what? bundle and save with allstate. click or cal

george h.w. bush pardoned casper weinberger after he was i dated. it was clearly an abuse.ss commander-in-chief and exercising and conducting foreign policy. by attacking flynn over his communications with the russians during his time as national security advisor and during the period he was representing the president-elect. attacks the ability of the president to conduct foreign policy. he should do this to protect the presidency and secure justice. lou: it seems we agree more often than not. doesn't it. stay with us. we are coming right back. (patrick) some things are out of your control. like bedhead. hmmmm. ♪ na-lah-la-da.. and then...there's national car rental. at national, i'm in total control. i can just skip the counter and choose any car in the aisle i like. so i can rent fast without getting a hair out of place. heeeeey. hey! ah, control. (vo) go national. go like a pro. when i lost my sight, my biggest fear was losing my independence. mmm... good. so i've spent my life developing technology to help the visually impaired. we are so good. we built a guide that use

he talks about writing a speech for george h.w. bush, and he was going to give it in houston. and on the airplane there h.w. bush takes the speech which he's demanded to be on i think 4 by 6 cards, pulls out the cards, throws out a bunch of them and reshuffles what you have, and that was the speech. now, i find this entirely credii heard a lot that george w. which bush was very good man. but i've heard a lot of his speeches and they did seem to be composed in that fashion. if peter robinson were here or any of the great reagan speech writers what they would say is that their method of writing a speech, was to find out what reagan wanted to say to go back to the mother lode to mine from things and that's how they put together his speeches because reagan was his own best speech writer. i think you would say exactly the same thing is true about president obama, that president obama, i'm thinking of the race speech. if you think about a difficult political situation the speeches about as difficult a campaign situation as you can possibly be in. talking about the most impossible is

you have the grandson of president george h.w. bush running for congress here, but the turnout here is really focused on what the democratic primary voters are going to do and which lane of those democratic candidates they're going to support here at the end of the day. john? >> ed lavandera on the ground in texas. it's not just the presidential primaries at stake today. here with me to share their reporting and their insights, julie hirschfeld davis with the "new york times," jackie kucinich with "politico." i don't know anyone who thinks we won't wake up tomorrow and bernie sanders won't have the lead in delegates. the question is, will it be a modest lead and we'll carry on, or will it be a big lead? >> a couple days ago i would have said it would be an inseizuinsu insurmountable lead. today is the biggest single payoff with texas and california. he looked like he was in the position to open up a lot of space with everybody else. you and i have covered -- probably the most extraordinary 48 hours in a primary in a very long time, and

general election if you look at those incumbent presidents who haven't gotten re-elected, it's george h.w. bushmy carter. they were overseeing a slow economy. does this absolutely matter and will this weigh on folks' minds? of course. you could make an argument our politics have become more tribal so maybe the economy matters less, but this health crisis is going to, could impact people pretty directly and therefore could inform people. >> you know what's interesting to me, i heard an observer mention the other day that no democrat who did not begin the campaign as an outsider has won the white house in recent list not carter he was an outsider clinton was an outsider. obama was an outsider. joe biden is anything but an outsider >> yeah, that's right. although maybe his comeback, you know he was -- >> he was only u outside looking in until last week. >> i don't know. maybe that was what sort of people had to you know subject him to that type of test you know that's absolutely right. >> it's interesting. >> and also i think just given this context it's only march. so we could be talking about so

and it's put together by jean becker, a long time speechwriter for her and chief of staff to george h.w. bush'sered all of this advice from about 10 100 friends, and t this all together. it's a wonderful piece of advice, to she was happy, which all of us do, right, greg? it makes a wonderful graduation gift, father's day, i loved it and i want more of it. that was my "one more thing." >> just in time for super tuesday we have the fox news shop, election 2020. democracy collection. so you get a hat and a mug, if you get them together you get a free stress ball. you can squeeze this until election day. >> i could throw a curveball. >> guess you could. head over to fox, get yours today. remember it's in your hands, not the stress ball that the election. >> let's do this. haven't done this this week. ♪ animals are great, animals are great ♪ >> we know animals are great but you know it's not great? soccer. soccer is so easy to play that even fish can play soccer. here's a team of fish playing soccer. they use their fins and they are actually very good. we are not sure if they are going to be there,

donald trump is down here, right between george h.w. bush and jimmy carter, not company you want to keep in an election year. you'll note both those presidents only served one term, jake. >> that's not a good neighborhood. david chalian, thank you so much, appreciate it. >>> a live look at the port of oakland where the "grand princess" cruise ship just docked after days at sea during the coronavirus crisis. how does self-quarantine work and do you need to think about doing it? this plus more of your coronavirus questions answered, that's next. stay with us. [ singing indistinctly ] ladies, my friends and i are having a debate. -i have a back rash. -alright. whoa, mara. i laugh like this. [ laughs obnoxiously ] it's just not my scene. -i couldn't help but over-- -do you like insurance? i love insurance. did you know you can save money bundling home and auto with progressive, and renters can bundle, too? i know, right? [ laughs ] [ singing continues ] why'd you stop? i was listening. [ microphone feedback ] why'd you stop? i was listening. rem

supported many including senators isaac kohn and cover del and presidents ronald reagan and george h.w. bush. additional any -- additionally she served as delegate to presidential conventions and as an elector. her dedication didn't stop at politics. in gainesville, georgia, she taught the speech and hearing impaired how to read braille. she founded a k-12 school, lakeview academy, which thrives today. she is leaving the state much better than she found it and will be deeply missed. her family and friends are in my thoughts and prayers in this most difficult time. thank you, madam speaker, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? >> address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> madam speaker, i want to congratulate again some exceptional young people from my district. mr. payne: the cheerleaders from west orange high school. known as the mountaineer they fought their way to the 2020 yu universal cheerleading as

george h.w. bush unilaterally got rid of a lot of these weapons, and the people who were most relieved about these were military officers who considered these things a -- first of all, not needed. we had pretty good conventional forces, but second, a security nightmare. i mean, ships, these were on almost every ship of the navy. there were harbors they weren't allowed to go dock in because the countries didn't want nuclear weapons on their soil. so everybody was relieved by this. but for political reasons, there were still about 180 left in western europe including 50 in turkey. and it's interesting, when obama became president, one of his first, you know, big speeches he talked about reducing the role of nuclear weapons in national security policy. and there was an ambassador to nato at the time, obama's choice, he goes, i've got a great idea. let's unilaterally cut number of nuclear weapons in europe by half. these things aren't really are needed anymore anyway, it would make a good signal to everyb

douglas holtz-eakin, american forum action prison, former chief economic adviser to president george h.w. bush. he's also served as director of the congressional budget office, was also a member of the financial crisis inquiry team that investigated the 2008 economic crash. no one better to speak to this morning than you, sir. thank you very much for joining us. first of all, the senate -- >> my pleasure. >> -- bill would put $1,200 directly in the hands of most americans. this is what we've learned about it so far. about $500 per child. it would provide $350 billion for small businesses and about $500 billion in loans and loan guarantees to businesses. state and local governments, what are the strengths and weaknesses as you begin to assess this bill? where are the holes here? >> well, i think the real weakness at the moment is we don't know what question it's answering. there's sort of a little of everything and there's a lot of politics that they're basically posed as oh, are we going to help companies? are we going to help people? the problem is, is that the problem in the economy is we ha

joe watkins is a former white house aide under george h.w. bush. and jemile smith, senior writer for rolling stone. i am going to get to all of you on your reactions to what you heard, and again, my statement about the president's opening was only our opening, because we did hear a lot more and got into a lot of questions asked and answered and some that i don't think was raised at all with the vice president and dr. birx as well as the admirals. let me go back to one thing i had raised with you elana before we heard the briefing. and that was -- and i did not hear that addressed -- about those that are incarcerated and those that are being held in detention camps who have forced situations. many of those incarcerated not convicted of anything, waiting trial. we are not hearing any kind of directance or guidance from the white house on those individuals. >> absolutely. just to put a fine point on your opening comments, reverend al, what we don't want to hear is the name of the costco ceo. what we don't need to hear from the president is just take i

i do think that is a model of, you think about george h.w. bush, together with bill clinton who of course defeated him in his quest for a second term, for a variety of very good causes. almost all the president's have recently gotten together, the ex-president for again a variety of causes.at but you suggest leaving office irde washington more partisan. how does this transpire? >> i think that's true. george washington did become more partisan after he left the presidency. we do have his perception today that leaving office in some way lift presidents above partisan feuds. but really the exact opposite happened to george washington. he involved himself in congressional electioneering in the way he never would have asas president. he supported as a mention the alien and sedition act. that led to printers were so-so with the opposition party actually being locked up. and he also favored excluding members of the opposition party from high rank in the new army that was being four. this essentially was a partisan army. the reason this is so surprising

joe watthouse, under george h.w. bush. and jameel for rolling stone. many of us have been critical about how the president has handled this coronavirus situation from the beginning, starting with saying it was a hoax, then gradually coming closer and closer to reality. what do we need to hear today? they've now announced testing. they've now announced they were going to do things with glolg and alphabet. it seems that some of that is not exactly as they have said in terms of once we checked with google, once we check other things, they're now -- what do we want to hear specifically from this briefing from vice president pence any moment? >> well, reverent, i think we need to hear more governornance and less showmanship. i think we need to see a lot less of what we saw on friday in the rose garden where the president was marching out ceo's and brazing business and trying to get wall street's numbers up. we need to see a primary concern for people sick and who might be sick and not know it. on that point i think what we need to see from the vice presiden

because years ago, i sort of well-known when i worked in the george h.w. bush administration i worked in the hoover institution with these right wing think tanks and i'm still other e-mail lists. so i get these notices about annual meetings where entrepreneurs and hedge fund managers are invited to discuss how to make a profit from public education. they are not selling pencils. what they are out to do is to create charters that are not regulated at all. or not accountable, and california now has more charters than any other states. i think about 10% of the kids in california aren't charter schools up until this recent change in the law which is not yet taken effect. charters were unaccountable and unregulated. in california has had some of the biggest charter scandals in the entire country were mom-and-pop charters have skimmed off millions of dollars. usually the charter scandals are unrealistic, but not always. the biggest charter scandal in history, was announced last year with an indictment in san diego where online charter corporation called a3 was indict

justice circles he was first appointed by ronald reagan in 1981 and reappointed by george h.w. bushining the federal bench by appointment of george w. bush. and then chief justice roberts appointed him to the fisa court where he became chief of the fisa court. he's serious, legendary, he's no nonsense. in a battle between judge walton and bill barr, my money is on judge walton. >> my money is on you. keep us up to date on your filing. thank you for being here. >> thank you, joy. >> more "a.m. joy" after the break. , joy. >> more "a.m. joy" after the break. more ways than one. for small prices, you can build big dreams, spend less, get way more. shop everything home at wayfair.com everything was so fresh in the beginning... but that plug quickly faded. luckily there's febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. breathe happy with febreze plug. which is why when it comes to his dentures only new poligrip cushion and comfort will do. the first and only formula with adaptagrip cushioning technology. choose new poligrip cushion and comfort. the business of hard work..

post," carol simpson, legendary journalist who moderated the 1992 presidential debate between george h.w. busht and gabriel sherman author of "the loudest voice in the room". carol, i'm going to go to you first. those that worked in local news and network news, and you are a legend in the network category, understand there is a different way trump is filtered in network and local news, particularly in local news. in local news what leads is the local story, the person who died, the in urs wnurse who diee human tragedy that affects the local community is what leads and there aren't commentary of donald trump. there are little bites of him when he does a two-how long-long press conference, not the whole props press conference, so the content of him in larger context isn't there. you see the government is doing "x" and "y," so it didn't surprise me he bumped up a little bit. what do you make of that? do we have carol? we might not have carol. let's hold off -- oh, there are you. there you are. did you hear my question? >> i did hear your question. i was trying to answer it. do you hear me fine? >

after crisis he reached out to one former president, his father, george h.w. bush and president clinton his spread predecessor and asked them to help raise money for a tsunami. he and president obama and mrs. obama had strong relations between them at the end of the presidency. it's one of the bright spots at this time of extreme polarization. after working in the white house there are reasons to do it other than getting information. it sends a signal. donald trump has fought with the bushes. he attacked jeb bush mercilessly. he wasn't invited to mrs. bush's funeral. but it does send a signal that in a moment of crisis, everyone will lay down their attacks and take help from where ever it can come. those messages didn't come from donald trump tonight. >> nicolle, thank you for joining me, my friend. it's always good to have your analysis. nicolle wallace joining me on this very busy and complex evening. >>> joining me is senator kirsten gillibrand of new york, presidential candidate as you recall. she has said the senate plan, short changes -- senator, it is good t

to my next guest, we will about 450 points, on the phone with us is treasury secretary under george h.w. bush, 43rd president of the united states, john snow, on the phone right now. john, always good to have you. your successor, steve mnuchin, up on capitol hill right now pushing for what would be upwards of an $850 billion stimulus package, a chunk of which might, might involve some sort of payroll tax. they were just signaling and said it won't be sweeping or all-inclusive. what do you think such a package should look like? >> well, i think what we need here is to talk about a framework to deal with this unique situation we find ourselves in. i find myself in alliance with one of your earlier guests who said the real focus right now needs to be on stabilization. we need to stabilize the incomes of the people who are being adversely affected. we need to stabilize the situation with thousands and thousands of businesses so they don't shutter their doors, so they will be able to reemploy people when the economy comes back. neil: but it could be delayed coming back. i only say that because the

in 1990, the democrats blackmailed president george h.w. bush into breaking his word on taxes. paupblg a budget agree. in 2007 or 2008 when she was first speaker she passed terrible legislation which president george w. bush felt he had to sign. things which crippled the economy. they considered that during obama and by 2010 we won the house with john boehner and the slogan where are the jobs? so what hav you have now is a pr str*ulg where schumer and pelosi believe they can blackmail the president into accepting really dumb ideas there. are some things you negotiate. there are some things you work out. but i personally do not want to see a trump-mcconnell-mccarthy team that are blackmailed by pelosi and schumer and give in. i think the american people need to understand we can get something done immediately this week. the house has to come back to do it. but they ought to put a lot of pressure on pelosi and schumer to put america ahead of partisanship and to try to help solve an american crisis, not just pay off their allies and their interest groups. i think this is -- i'm no

voters that moved from supporting michael dukakis in the early september to moving to support george h.w. bushconvention. when cdid we seeing in tiff partisanship. it has an impact in the clinton year. president wins two, years later, the other party wins. two years later, the other party elected. in off-year elections that seems now, what happens more often than not? >> yeah, i'll really glad that you're actually asking me the bigger picture question here because we get bogged down into specific election cycles and forget that we're talking about cyclical things that are embedded in long-term patterns. when we think about the 1980s, that's a really critical time in american politics because that's the full-throated time when the southern realignment was in its whole swing. we really did see reagan democrats who were ideological conservatives move en masse from the democratic to republican party. what we're looking at now what i call the polarized era which begins in the '90s but solidifies in the 2000s where mass polarization starts to register for data for the public is much more than the el

the economy is doing great, if we start to see negative growth you're in carter territory and george h.w. bushe if it hurts economy it hurts argument against joe biden. brian: knowing that the democrats, the last thing they want is to rescue donald trump from something that could hurt him that he had nothing to do with? >> that's exactly right. brian: thanks for agreeing that i'm exactly right. [laughter] brian: jillian, you are going to undin closed location to update us on the news. jillian: you're always right. in the meantime let's talk about this. protestors set an american flag on fire after a police shooting sparked unrest in north carolina. look at this. >> what do we want? justice. jillian: demonstrators demanding answers outside the governor's mansion rally, officer shot alleged gunman. he was taken to the hospital, condition is unknown. police are blaming the outrage over misinformation being spread by the media. mystery over why dozens of horses died in one racetrack is closer to being solved. examine the death of 23 horses, illegal medications were not a factor but several had pre

i'm george h.w. bush's biographer. i value the republican party that i knew when i was growing up.i live here, that's redundant. this is not some crazy left-wing thing. this is a clinical observation. i challenge any american, watch these briefings this week. all the way through. because the wheels come off at the end when he starts being self-pitying. tell me that you are confident that the lives of your family are safe in this man's hands. now, we have to do the best we can. >> willie -- yeah. we have to. what you also see is we have an administration with a lot of acting, a lot of empty positions. there's not a lot of layers, first of all, of people who can do the job and help the president do the job. he doesn't have anyone around him who will give him bad news. >> not a partisan point, the country would feel better if donald trump didn't appear at the briefings. imagine if you had anthony fauci, imagine if you had dr. birx up there, imagine if you had the commissioner, even vice president pence can deliver the message, though mika pointed out he said things that weren't true.

botches this crisis and seniors die in florida because of his botched leadership, it will be like george h.w. bush and losing that state because he botched the handling of the crisis. so if all the presidents crisis you will be run out of office. and it will start in the state of florida. >> it does seem like, joe, we're heading towards, i hope not, but it feels like we're heading towards a red state versus blue state divide, and potentially even urban versus rural. and to underscore, to bring it home about the president, his tone and leadership and where his focus is, he's tweeted again after the mitt romney tweet. this time to a link. judge won't release avenatti, you remember michael avenatti. judge won't release avenatti over coronavirus claim. the president tweets, gee, that's too bad. such a fine guy. presidential aspirations, you know. that's where we are right now, joe. >> that's where we are. and the president, of course, is trying to distract. mr. president, we need masks. we need gloves. we need ventilators. we need tests, because if you don't do that, you're going to be responsible. yo

george h.w. bush? >> i think he did.le. -- >> what do you think will happen in california, last time 1988? been a while? >> i don't know when. but it will happen. state is not staying permanently level wing, college students, cal state berkeley left wingers, not staying like that forever. >> there will be a revolution start in orange county. and it will -- >> yeah. >> right on! right on! power to the people ! >> by the way. ben, you you are a good read of the economy, a lot of people look at what is go nothing in coronavirus. with the fear gripping the world, and market, and all that stuff. would not see it in future activity. but, is this going to be a problem for president trump. you know only thing that could slip things up is recovery falters or market, how legitimate a worry is that. >> very legitimate, this terrible thing, really act of god, as a friend of mine calls it happened, but who else do we blame, god is not on ballot, only person on ballot in charge is mr. trump. he will get blamed, he better get on the ba

1962 by ever-greater margins that voted for ronald reagan overwhelmingly twice and voted for george h.w. bush twice. and all that time, there was a democratic congressman. they're two different figures. and only one time did their party achieve their objective. i look at it now. i will promise you this, if i didn't vote the way my constituents vote presidentially, i would not be there the next time. and in the upcoming election as the guy who used to run politics -- and this has changed dramatically in my life in political life which began in the late '70s to now. about 95% of the people that voted for donald trump are going to vote republican for congress and about 95% of the people that voted against the republican nominee is probably going to vote democrat. so, this polarization inside the population really affects what happens inside the institution. and to think that politicians will ignore that for the sake of defending institutional prerogatives i think is to be naive. they didn't have to do that in the past. literally the congressman and sometimes it was more importantly locally than

. >> george h.w. bushand a safe choice -- >> because bill clinton succeeded in convincing voters he was a safe candidate. >> martha: but he was new -- i'm just saying, when you look back, never party has turned into a sort of inevitable, safe person, it doesn't always work out. >> bret: is it possible that joe biden's gaffes are kind of like donald trump's tweets? it doesn't affect the base of the party. >> i think it is factored in. it is just part of the person you are getting. you are accepting of it, and i think some people think the gaffes our cart know my charming. i read somewhere on twitter, his sister and his wife switched places, and he didn't see it, but still, it looks like a gaffe, and it's funny, oh, my god, why can't this guy get it together? but i think democrats are saying, we don't care about that. they don't understand how republicans don't care about the tweets. >> we noted. many times, the rhetorical types of gaffes. he's prone to that and always has been, no big deal, but more recentl

h.w. bush and president george w. bush and president obama and president trump, working with hiv-aids, working with anthrax, working with the ebola epidemic twice, if dr. fauci answers a question and tells using is, i think we believe that. and what we need is accurate information for the american people about exactly where we stand with this crisis and what do we need to do in congress that we've not already -- that we've not already done. so in the next few minutes, i'd like to talk about what we heard this morning and to compliment those four who were there, dr. anshuka, deputy director for disease control. she's had 30 years working with infectious diseases, most of that time with the c.d.c. dr. fauci, i just described working with six presidents. i believe he has virtual universal respect here for truth-telling and competence. dr. robert cadley, assistant secretary for preparedness and response at the department of health and human services. he used to advise the f.b.i. and the department of defense. then he help