george? well, it's clear that the initial offensive that was launched by a ukraine in harrison was a failure. they sustain very heavy casualties and made no progress. the one in the east northeast around target has obviously be more successful and they have made territorial gains. and you know, 11 really can't deny that at the moment. they are setbacks for the russian side. they evidently were not prepared for this for a here. so we're preparing for our which again raise questions about our good intelligence was ok, but the question, the russians will respond to this and they're already responding. because last time you miss you was, was strategically important. but more seriously, for the russian side, is that they, they appear to have betrayed the people who put their trust in them. you know, the difference between now and to 2014, was that the russians made promises this time when i'm going to leave you when i'm going to abandon you to the attorney ukrainian army which is, and you know, the already stories coming out that they're grading on mistaking reprisals against anyone will see to co