>>guest: we could ask president bush, george herbert walker bush how the second term went after he broke his pledge. did he damage the pledgest or did by breaking the pledge he lost a second term for the presidency because he had not kept his word with the american people because he raised taxes, and the democrats increased spending so george herbert walker bush threw the economy in a recession and could not get re-elected. >>neil: you are right, people did not forget it and took it out on him at the polls, are you saying you are a a long memory and you will remember these guys who turn on you? >>guest: okay, no one is turning on me. i understand why harry reid is trying to personalize it as grover. what harry reid doesn't want to say the american people do not want their taxes raised and they elect add republican congress opposed to raising taxes and harry reid is at odds with the american people. >>neil: they are looking like they are raising taxes, grover, is that a repudiation of you or recognition of the election? >>guest: the promise on the pledge is to the american people. what i

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then you have george herbert walker bush is the example of the guy that was elected and made a commitment not to raise taxes. he defeated the soviet union. he defeated iraq. and did not get stuck occupying the place for 10 years. a very successful president except for one small problem. he raised taxes and hurt the economy. he lost the next election. i did not have to send a press release saying did you notice the president would not raise taxes and he did, people notice that. it ain't a secret. in utah they ran across the city government that raised taxes. tax increases are like certain social diseases. they stay with you forever. you cannot run for congress or senate having raised taxes. i would really encouraging people to be made and -- to behave and politicians to also be a and not pick up and s t d, tax transmits a political error that will haunt you in the future even when you have reform and are better. >> thank you very much for being here. >> we are back with an russell berman steven sloan after talking with grover norquist. the author of the pledge that many know as the anti-ta

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george herbert walker bush, it's been a while. but what's going on here? paul ryan, as you mentioned, he's coming right here to harrisbu harrisburg, that's why we're here. on the flip side, it seems that the obama campaign now putting some surrogates here. jill biden, the wife of the vice president will be here in pennsylvania later today, as well. guess what, former president bill clinton coming to pennsylvania to campaign on monday. you turn on the tvs here, randi, all you see are campaign commercials. i saw a ton in the local news. 10 million in the final days and the romney campaign is outspending the obama campaign two to one here in pennsylvania. 20 electoral votes at stake. here is the latest poll in pennsylvania. franklin and marshal, a four-point advantage for the president. very tight. that's within the sampling error. the president used to have a double-digit lead in pennsylvania. now it's getting crowded. randi, the obama campaign says this is a sign of desperation by the romney campaign that they can't win in wisconsin, ohio and that's why the

. >> we could ask president bush, george herbert walker bush, how his second term went after he broke his pledge. did he damage the pledge, or did by breaking his pledge, he lost a second term for the presidency because he had not kept his word with the american people? >> at some point they need to let him go. >>> new york governor andrew cuomo is making his case for federal aid in the aftermath of hurricane sandy. governor cuomo said the storm could cost the state nearly $42 billion, and new yorkers would need federal help footing the bill. while acknowledging that more people died during hurricane katrina in 2005, the governor said that sandy's damage was actually more widespread. >> when you look at the number of homes and businesses affected, this storm affected many, many more people in places than katrina. and arguably, therefore, this created more housing and economic damage than katrina. >>> new jersey which suffered massive damage to its transit system and coastline estimates that it nearly has $30 billion in damage. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice is heading to capitol hill

in 1990, we had, in the white house, george herbert walker bush. darman's new that with the real sticking point was as it is now. darman collaborated with the reagan budget which led to the first explosion of the budget. he knew that it had to be fixed. we were not averse to raising revenues and we knew that you had to do something about the deficit. so it was a long, hard fight. they sent us to andrews air force base. they said don't come back until you have a deal. finally, we were able to cobble together an agreement. we came back with the agreement to reduce the deficit significantly. and then it failed. because newt gingrich denounced in the house and a final agreement was made in the conference room of the white house where president bush agreed to raise the revenues. and we did that, and then we have the deal. but the difference then from now is you had, i think, an agreement among all the parties. that we have a problem and we had to do whatever was necessary. no matter how politically unpopular to get the deal done. [talking over each othe

the future it would be very bad for the economy, everyone that has their fingerprints, george herbert walker bushught he of the a hero in 1990, he cut the deal, and he raised taxes, got the promises of spending cuts, the taxes went up, spending did not go down, he tajed econom tanked. neil: everyone makes a big deal about a pledge. and if euif you did this same with a pledge to plain spending rein in spending you you'll be more vilified. >> only reason they are talking about spending restraint they are trying to buy tax increases, theple pledge does have an affet on spending, not raising taxes is he first condition to getting to spending restraint, if you leave taxes on the table no spending restraint laps. -- happens it is like putting a piranha in the goldfish bowl, all of the goldfish disappear. neil: i am thinking with way that media portrayed you, that maybe you as a child did put piranha in a goldfish bowl. thank you. the issue is not grover, it is money going into washington and money going out, the is a hell of a lot more money that is leaving washington right now than is going into washi

we came into office and took it up to about three trillion by the time he left and then george herbert walker bush after him took it up to about five and then bill clinton brought in balanced budgets because for eight years you had a democrat in office and so the republicans were all screaming about the debt in the deficit and then george bush comes in and takes it up to ten trillion just massively explodes and now again the republicans are out yelling time to shoot the democratic senate was over the last thirty years i mean the vast majority of that has been republicans roughly ten trillion dollars of that has been put on by republican presidents and their kids to what the clip that rush limbaugh was saying you can't beat santa claus and that's what you're going to he was talking about you can't beat santa clause so he advised republicans play their own santa clause but he didn't explicitly talk about how you know if we run up this massive debt the democrats will eventually have to cut back but that is how you end up beating santa clauses you force democrats to shoot them and that's what we're se

got shut down during the clinton presidency because both parties both bill clinton and george herbert walker bush agreed that we should be joining nafta and become part of the deputy oh and that whole thing why isn't that an example of how an outside and you could argue that ross perot wasn't even a political party was just a billionaire who created a logo and you know but brought this issue in and yet it still died i mean is it a given that. how big a slog is it for the soul of these individual issues to be carried forward by anybody other than the two major parties or maybe another way of saying that is to it to what extent do we have to operate outside the party system to what extent do we have to operate inside the party system to produce these kinds of changes that are necessary well i get i get two parts of the answer that first off it wasn't just with ross perot it wasn't just the giant sucking sound that i was talking about in terms of nafta he was also one of these guys who was saying that the the national of the deficit was going to be a big problem for us and that fed in quite nicely i

george h.w. bush did the same thing. burr bush did the same thing and ronald reagan and every -- >> george w. bush had the biggest financial crisis since the great depression. george herbert walkerroyed the economy. >> let me educate you. jfk, ronald reagan and george w. bush, every single time we lowered tax rates we had economic boom, job creation and more money flowing into the treasury. >> he has to figure out a way to get money into the treasury. weoth know lowering tax rates alone will not do that. melissa: she thinks it will. you have to come back with different point. >> monica, there is no evidence to support what you just said. >> i have empirical evidence for deck indicates every single time it has been done it it happened. >> george w. bush's economy was complete and total failure. everybody on the planet agrees with that. >> let me correct that. george w. bush signed two waves of tax cuts into law, 2001, 2003 with bipartisan support. after that we had 54 consecutive months of job creati. >> that 55th month woos a problem. melissa: chris, i want to get you the record. you think mitt romney will continue the same policies, everything he said taking us down a different

. >> well, george herbert walker bush in the runup to building the great global coalition, one of the great diplomatic achievements in american life in 19991 used to say that what he would do when he first became president was he would call up an emir somewhere and say "how's the wther in the desert?" so when he called that emir at some other point and he needed something the emir remembered he called about the weather. >> he also had a great partner in james baker. >> rose: and they both understood that. >> if you were putting together the perfect president what qualities would you draw on from previous presidents you've read about? >> i'd start with tom's brain. you'd be go with lincoln, but i'm going to do my hamilton pitch. he wasn't a president but what he did was introduce a school of thinking that says this country is about social mobility. we have one party that's all about freedom. but we don't have a party about social mobility and the market and i do think that is the missing element in american life which we had in the early republican party and i think it's more the bstan

if you're a republican and really believe in, to take george bush's phrase, george herbert walker bush's phrase, the thousand points of light, the nonprofit sector, the creativity of the nonprofit sector, you're going to severely inhibit charitable deductions which all the policy indicates is elastic and those will go up if you have a cap. that's the first thing to go. unless i'm rich i can't pay off my home mortgage interest but if i am rich i can. and so forth. and we need to separate out business taxation from nonbusiness taxation. because the individual income tax is being held hostage to the flow through entities that are taxed at the individual level which include huge, huge, huge, three times huge, private enterprises because it used to be that in order to amass great amounts of capital you had to go to the public market. if you go to the public market you have to be taxed as a corporation. you can now amass those large accumulations of capital through private equity and sovereign wealth and other avenues. and you have some very large businesses that are not being taxed as corpora

george herbert walker bush was in the state the day of the election in '92. he didn't make it. so it seems like it is republican tradition. and how is it going to turn out for them in your opinion? you're the expert on these things. >> it is the pursuit of fool's gold. they tried it since 1992. they haven't carried the state since 1998. the president is somewhere at about 50 and he is like five points, four points ahead. a lot of people have voted, as alicia said, you're not going to make that up. they got to look some place else and they decided to go to pennsylvania. they are talking about michigan. the president is well ahead in michigan. they are talking about wisconsin. >> in all these other states, bob, it is within the margin of error. so it is based a lot on who turns out. >> it'll be based on that. but one thing to say is i trust the nbc polls, i trust cbs's polls. i don't trust a lot of fly by night organizations that i haven't heard of before. this go around all campaign and get averaged in, saying gee, romney is doing well. take nevada. mark marn el who called the r

paul who served in the george herbert walker bush of ministration to explain to them the very dispassionate ways of what would happen if -- when august 2nd came and went in the debt ceiling was not raised. he sort of did through a power point presentation of what -- when certain social security checks would not go through, al immediately all federal prisons were closed and how, you know, such and such a point veterans benefits would be cut off. and it was very compelling evidence that this would be really calamitous. yet there were some republicans to set up, house republicans said it's outrageous that you're talking about this instead of washington's reckless spending habits. another guy stood up and said karl rove spoke to us this morning. he had just written an article in the "wall street journal" saying this is obama's problem. you seem like a nice guy. and so they were unwilling to listen to this. the aforementioned matter republican asked one of the tea party freshman. like. have some tea party constituents who insists he should not raise the debt ceiling. can you explain to me what t

the last presidential candidate to get 60% of the white vote, which mitt romney did was george herbert walker bush00 electoral votes. today, gets you an electoral college drumming. president george w. bush got 44% of the hispanic voite. the problem, there are too many republican leaders in congress. if you say the word latino and play a word association game with them, they would come back with illegal immigrant, not silver star winner, not doctor, not lawyer, not policeman, not fireman. this is an important part of our communityship. an important part of the future of the republican party and the republican party needs to get it together on its outreach to late team knows and it's good hear that lindsey graham and chuck shumer are going to start advancing comprehensive immigration reform again because we have to get this off the table, a political issue for the party and we also have to have a zero toll perhaps with the terrible taupe coming out of the talk radio universe and some of our leaders in congress who are serially disrespectful to this fastest growing democrat in the country. you have t

and cykristin welker, thank you >>> george herbert walker bush, bush 41's office confirmed the former president has been hospitalized in houston for a week suffering from complications related to bronchitis sway longstanding cough. president bush has been in and out of hospital for several weeks. they say it's not pneumonia, it's not life threatening, and the 88-year-old is expected to be released within the next 72 hours, which is good news indeed. the u.n. vote today to grant palestinians unofficial membership that the general assembly's expected to pass overwhelmingly this afternoon poenl the united states and israel will be voting no. great britain is planning to abstain. nbc's martin fletcher join me, after covering celebrations that began early in ramallah. quite a lot of celebrating among the palestinians. we should stress this is symbolic. martin it will give them access, potentially to the international criminal court of justice, action against israel they've long been wanting to take. doesn't move them toward statehood. the u.s. says this is a step back, not a step forward.

the last presidential candidate to get 60% of the white vote, which mitt romney did was george herbert walker bushal votes. today, gets you an electoral college drumming. president george w. bush got 44% of the hispanic voite. the probm, there are too many republican leaders in congress. if you say the word latino and play a word association game with them, they would come back with illegal immigrant, not silver star winner, not doctor, not lawyer, not policeman, not fireman. this is an important part of our communityship. an important part of the future of the republican party and the republican party needs to get it together on its outreach to late team knows and it's good hear that lindsey graham and chuck shumer are going to start ad

>> the best example of that is george herbert walker bush who ran for election in 1988, signed the pledgee primary, said read my lips and signed the pledge and won the general election. then two years later he walked into a grand bargain with the democrats who promised to cut spending if he would raise taxes. taxes were raised. spending was not cut. spending increased. and he lost the next election. we didn't run any adds against bush. the whole country knew that he had been taken to the cleaners. he promised not to raise taxes and didn't keep his commitment. so tease are self enforcing. why? because the american people elect people who they want to reform government rather than raise taxes. >> i like to think it's that pure. the fact is you have a lot of money. the money has to be used for something, right? you can't get $4.5 million from these guys and $200,000 from here and here for nothing. it doesn't cost that much to get the pledge out. how does the money get spent to defeat people who break the pledge? >> we run ads to let people know who is taking the pledge and who doesn't. we'll

. >> george herbert walker bush, xli president of the united states. >> governor clinton is now president bill clinton. >> too close to call. >> there it is, george w. bush re-elected. >> barack obama, president-elect of the united states. >> this is cnn. >>> right now, barack obama and mitt romney, they are trying to close the deal with voters in battleground states. >> stand by for our new presidential poll as we count down the last crucial hours until election day. >> tonight, the final frantic race for president before voters have their say. >> four more years. four more years. >> romney. romney. romney. >> mitt romney and barack obama, ending a long and close campaign. >> do you want more of the same or do you want change? >> fighting for every vote until the bitter end. >> we know what change looks like. and what he's offering ain't it. >> this hour, our last presidential poll before election day, the candidates' 11th hour game plans and the possibility of a stunning cliffhanger. >> this is the time to elect a leader. >> i'd like to win this thing earlier than later. >> now, cnn's c

. >> george herbert walker bush used to be in the run up to building the great global coalition, one of the greatest achievements in america life in 1990-91 used to say that what he would do when he first became president was he would call up somewhere and say house the weather in the desert. when he called that emir at some other point the emir remembered that he called about the weather. >> rose: they both understood that. putting together the perfect president, what qualities would you draw on from previous presidents you've read about? >> mm-mm. let's see. i would start with tom's brain. you know, it's pretty obvious, you know. you go with lincoln. i'm going to give my hamilton pitch. he was the a president but what he did was introduce the school of thinking that says this country's about social mobility. we have one party that's all about freedom and one party that's more or less about the quality and those are limited virtues but we do not have a party that's all about social mobility and about the market. i do think that's been the missing element in american life which we us

george herbert walker bush, president 41, facing the deficits, really ballooning deficits of the time, unprecedentsed deficits could lap rated with democrats and some republicans and passed a tax increase. he paid dearly for it. the country got fiscal health. out of it. but he paid. he got a primary challenge and he got the wrath of a lot of the base of the republican party and he lost reelection. bill clinton then came and again to restore fiscal, the sustained fiscal health increased taxes without a single republican voting for it and what happened, he paid a price. democrats lost control of the congress and for-- after having it for 40 years in 1994. and the lesson that was learned was learned by bush 43. who came and cut taxes twice. now under bush 41 and clinton, we had sustained economic growth and fiscal sanity. >> woodruff: with higher tax rates. >> with higher tax rates. under bush 43 with two tax cuts we had an economy in tore pur and doubled the fat debt. and but it's become, david can explain t the republicans, you know, you don't go near a tax increase of any sort. >> i'm

when george herbert walker bush campaign with a promise not to raise taxes and turned around and raised taxes, in return for promises of spending cuts that did not happen, the american people unelected him. i did not think we needed to send a press release out to inform people that he raise taxes. when constituents do this, both democrats will run against them -- as he saw in utah, they beat mia love because she raise taxes as mayor. republicans to raise taxes to their own brand a great deal of damage, particularly if they put in writing to their constituents that that is not who they are and not what they do. >> grover, you alluded to this but i wish you would fleshes out. you mentioned there is roughly 60% of the republican caucus but represented by the study committee that as the only thing worse than sequestration would be no cuts at all -- alluded to the -- people trying to break a groundswell to protect the pentagon against the cuts. and related -- how problematic is it that the self-described conservatives like bill kristol called for tax increases to protect the pentagon which t