inflation but the people running the campaign of ronald reagan, which was george herbert marshall -- george herbert walker bush and others, negotiated a secret agreement with the new revolutionary regime -- in iran. host: you want to bring us up to the midterms? caller: i think the context of october surprise is important because it can be minute related. host: got you. guest: i could name you october surprises be -- before the term became a common one like lyndon johnson's bombing in north vietnam. announced at tv before the election which helped to propel you but humphrey with a near tie -- hubert humphrey with the near tie with nixon. i will dispute one thing you said. that did not -- that was not the key event that produced jimmy carter's 10 point loss. he was behind by two to three points. already and that was more than enough, in that particular year, to elect one of reagan even if the collapse of the negotiations with the iranian regime had not occurred at the sunday before the tuesday election. and probably helped to bring in a pumpkin senate -- it's probably helped to bring in a republican senate. the

administration in areas of finance but the people running the campaign for ronald reagan which was george herbert walker bush and william casey later became head of the cia negotiated a secret agreement with the new revolutionary regime under the ayatollah ho maney in iran -- host: do you want to bring us up to the midterms of this year? caller: this shows how elections can be manipulated. guest: i can name october surprises before the term became common. lyndon johnson's bombing hauled to north vietnam announced on national tv without much prior buildup. it was right before the november election which helped get hubert humphrey into a near tie back in 1968 step there are plenty of cases we can talk about. that was not the key event that produced jimmy carter's 10 point loss. he was behind by 2-3 points already and that was more than enough in that particular year given the tilt of the electrical -- electoral college to elect ronald reagan and even if the collapse of the negotiations with the iranian regime had not occurred in the sunday before the election, let's keep it in context. it, lee helped to bring

george bush, george herbert walker bush were not racist.tunities started with richard nixon, a republican. so but -- neil: do you think there are more quiet african-american supporters for republicans for whoever the republican presidential nominee will be than say it out loud? >> yes, i do. i also if the republicans could put forth a nominee who was more sensitive to the history of oppression and discrimination. neil: not donald trump? >> i think he could have been a very strong candidate with black voters but he lost his opportunity. neil: what about governor desantis? >> i think he could be. neil: do you think he has the odds on favorite to become the next nominee of the republicans? >> no. i think donald trump has the nomination. he is the front-runner for it. neil: even with all the baggage. >> it is his if he wants it, behaves himself and stays on message. this attack on him, legal attacks -- neil: this is helping his cause. >> it is. frankly in new york we got a lot of other problems to deal with and worry about donald trump reportin

in recent, years we've seen people like bill clinton become very good friends with george herbert walker bush. and actually, george w. bush for that matter. and gerald ford, who richard naughton smith is writing a magnificent biography of. ford and jimmy carter became incredibly close, even though they ran against each other in 1976. but on this fourth of july, we should really celebrate calvin coolidge. i wish i was up there, at plymouth notch in vermont. but it's also important wherever you are in the country to thank the founders for having the ideas of creating the united states of america. this remarkable democracy that we all love and share so much. >> thomas jefferson, ranked number seven on this year survey, ranked number seven and every survey we've done. stability of the top and bottom of this historian survey of presidential leadership. abraham lincoln, coming in first place every time we've done it. all four times. teddy roosevelt in fourth place all four times. at the bottom, the last three, pierce, johnson and buchanan. that is always the bottom three in these surveys. taking yo

i mean, look what happened to george herbert walker bush, probably our finest one-term president, mayben history. the foreign policy, president of winning the cold war and the first war in iraq. bush loses because of the economy. so the democrats are really trying to just stem the tide of history. they're hoping that something else in the atmosphere is going to be happening. perhaps it is roe v. wade decision that brings out more women. perhaps last minute, this pelosi incident will remind people of january 6th and the danger of the extreme right-wing, election deniers. things aren't particularly good for the democrats. >> though the democrats would cry foul, saying that, you know, they're being blamed for all these world forces that are sort of impacting fuel prices, you know, the economy in europe, for instance is having worse inflation problems. they're also trying to make the case that republicans, you know, if they get into power, will crash the economy. is that a losing argument, do you think, trying to invoke fears of something that hasn't happened rather than talking about somet

back in 1988, when george herbert walker bush's campaign aired this ad. >> bush and dukakis on crime. bush supports the demonstrate for first-degree murderers. dukakis not only opposes the death penalty, he allowed first-degree murderers to have weekend passes from prison. one was willie horton, who murdered a boy in a robbery, stabbing him 19 times. despite a life sentence, horton received ten weekend passes from prison. horton fled, kidnapped a young couple, stabbing the man and repeatedly raping his girlfriend. weekend prison passes. dukakis on crime. >> the purpose of that ad was to scare white voters to the polls in support of push and away from his democratic opponent, michael dukakis, and it worked. so today's republican party ripped a page from the exact same racist fear-mongering playbook. in wisconsin, many of the pro-ron johnson ads have hammered barnes, calling him a dangerous democrat. while in pennsylvania, republican senate nominee mehmet oz has gone after his democratic opponent, john fetorman, calling his work on criminal justice reform pro-criminal and insinuating th

the biographer of george herbert walker bush. his example is top of mind as well. all the presidents you have written about. >> absolutely. imagine a world -- it's as if we are talking about a war, george h.w. bush, he put country above party. liz cheney has done that. that should give us hope. >> thank you so much. >>> the san francisco police department is about to deliver that update on the violent attack that we have been speaking about against speaker pelosi's husband. we will bring it to you when it happens. >>> new efforts to keep elections and our democracy safe. that's next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. like #11 subway club. piled with turkey, ham and roast beef. this sub isn't slowing down any time soon. i'll give it a run for its money. my money's on the sub. it's subway's biggest refresh yet. covid-19. some people get it, and some people can get it bad. and for those who do get it bad, it may be because they have a high-risk factor. such as heart disease, diabetes, being overweight, asthma, or smoking. even if symptoms feel mild,

by the 90s, one side of the aisle simply said no new taxes that was george herbert walker bush's campaignline, read my lips, no new taxes so if you have that as your position, no new taxes, you can to do what germany did, you can't temperament a payroll tax to raise funds for insurance program so you are left with what you are doing and that conversation has been going on in america 1990 for the last 30 years. maybe now the events in washington the last two months have been interesting and the reaction of the american public has been interesting, we are not seeing the same this is socialism come we've got to stop it, a government takeover, people recognize there is a role for government to step in to solve massive, large problems, the problem of putting a man on the moon, took government to do that. >> i was listening to a show yesterday where they played a song from 1969 called whitey on the moon which is his response to the urban black man to the space program which was like what was in this for me? my situation is the same at least with some of these innovations and programs and priori

she was very progressive, any thread public school math teacher, she got mad at the george herbert walker bush campaign, and if that were my nephew, i believe she was pro-choice, and was very vocal and i had -- he had, she would bring friends of all backgrounds and all affiliations. people felt comfortable to be in my house and nobody felt that the need to say on this or that, i loved growing up that way, very worried about not speaking up or saying who they are. god has made no man or woman can never cancel. you hold your head high and be who you are and be proud of that and make sure you let your light shine and never let anybody diminish your life. i learned that not in any book or political conversations. liz: your family were role models. and your friends. i got to know your family by reading where you guys would drive 2 hours to washington dc, reminded me of my family, something catholic about us, and bring food. people in the next town didn't cook as well. you are in washington dc, you are becoming more and more interested in politics and public service, it wasn't until you went to law

i mean, when george herbert walker bush lost to bill clinton in 1992, you know, it's not like republicans were going up to kennebunkport saying, you know, please endorse. i mean, this is a whole different animal and. you could say, well, maybe because the media spends so much time building him up. i just think it's it's a product of his complete force of personality, shamelessness. the republicans unwilling this just to cut him loose, which i think they can now, but they're not so, you know, are we getting that right? every day? maybe. maybe not. but, you know, i still think it's important to sort of put what's what people who could be president are saying out there. so thank you for your question this. in the last few days there have been reports that rupert murdoch has begun criticizing trump's handling of january sixth. and you say something about the role of the murdochs in this scheme of things are they trying to control trump or are they just being used like everybody else? probably a little both. it's a good question. i mean, first of all, i think the impetus for people this discus

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grade public school math teacher and she had run the family business and she got mad at the george herbert walker bush campaign and at him in 1992 for saying that bill clinton was a draft dodger she said and did not. if that was my nephew i would drive into canada. i was up and get out of that. i believe shehe was pro-choice. she sort of a a feminist icona way. she was very vocal and yet so i'd every sign, she would bring friends over of all backgrounds and all affiliations. looking back we did know that. people felt comfortable to be in my house and nobody felt the need to say and i'm this and that. just all felt comfortable and welcome. i loved growing up that way young people now they're very worried about nothing of the speak up or say who they really are. that goes for right left and center in many places and spaces. i tell them listen. god has dash of what god has made no man or woman can never cancel. you hold your head high and you be proud of that and you make sure you let your light shine don't let everybody did make your light. i learned that in that house. i didn't learn it in any book or

you see people like bill clinton become very good friends with george herbert walker bush. and george w. bush for that matter. gerald ford who richard norton smith is writing this amazing biography of, ford and jimmy carter became incredibly close it. they ran against each other in 1976. but on this fourth of july we celebrate calvin coolidge great i wish i was up there in vermont. to thank the founders for having the idea of creating the remarkable democracy we all love and cherish so much great. >> thomas jefferson ranked number seven on this year's survey ranked in every survey we have done. the top and bottom of this historian, abraham lincoln coming in first place teddy roosevelt in fourth place all four times. at the bottom of the last three peers johnson and buchanan. that is always the bottom three in the survey. taking your phone calls about it, letting you talk to our panel of historian advisors. richard do you want to take independence? >> yes, good morning everyone. i appreciate the chance to be talking with all of your guests this morning. i wonder, we were talk

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mike has more positions in the federal government than anybody except george herbert walker bush. but he is fortunately here and we are really delighted he is here. susan schwab is in the washington area and we are so grateful for that. and of course we celebrate carla hill every day. she has been so helpful to us. i also should tell you she is the recipient of this year's state & ski --spigner brezinski -- zbigniew brzezinski award. [applause] we were going to have rob portman with us, but the departure time to 11:00 this morning, so we missed him and he wanted to specifically say he regrets not having the chance to be with us. j this is -- it is really important to have this conversation about trade policy in america. i'm not sure what our trade policy is right now. we've got something called foreign policy for the middle class. it certainly looks like protectionism to me, but i could be wrong. i may be learning here. if i have a chance to listen rather than talk. the best thing to do is to get off the stage and turn it over to bill reinsch, who will lead the fascinating convers

one of the biggest things they did other george herbert walker bush, they came up with nafta and wheny passed it, i had jobs in the mills in georgia. the mill closed in those jobs moved to china. the republicans have done more to hurt the working class. and then you know, clinton signed that bill into law but it was a republican idea. and then came phil gramm. 98, i believe, pushing for the repeal of glass-steagall, separating the banking industry from the investments. that led to all of those crazy mortgages and the biggest financial decline since the great depression of the 30's. 2008, when our financial system collapsed. now they are talking like if they get into power they want to sunset social security and medicare and have it be on a renewal basis every five years. host: it's a proposal by a couple of senators, i don't know if it's a widespread republican policy, it's a proposal. caller: but they have been after social security for years. right before the financial collapse, bush wanted to privatize social security. if that had happened and then the financial lapse came along, i

administration in areas of finance but the people running the campaign for ronald reagan which was george herbert walker bushnd william casey later became head of the cia negotiated a secret agreement with the new revolutionary regime under the ayatollah ho maney in iran -- host: do you want to bring us up to the midterms of this year? caller: this shows how elections can be manipulated. guest: i can name october surprises before the term became common. lyndon johnson's bombing hauled to north vietnam announced on national tv without much prior buildup. it was right before the november election which helped get hubert humphrey into a near tie back in 1968 step there are plenty of cases we can talk about. that was not the key event that produced jimmy carter's 10 point loss. he was behind by 2-3 points already and that was more than enough in that particular year given the tilt of the electrical -- electoral college to elect ronald reagan and even if the collapse of the negotiations with the iranian regime had not occurred in the sunday before the election, let's keep it in context. it, lee helped to bring in