douglas holtz-eakin, chief economist of president george w. bush's council of economic advisors.n, cnn senior political analyst and editorial director of the national journal group. thank you, all. okay. the president got some -- what sounded to me like fairly good news this week. the november jobs report came out and said, among other things, 8.6%, to me, breaking the magic number 9%. 120,000 jobs added. private sector jobs up 140,000. government jobs down 20,000. unless you are in the government, that -- people think that sounds great. long-term unemployed, 5.7 million. retail jobs, up 50,000. change in the labor force, down 315,000. i want to talk about that down 315,000. i don't know who people are who suddenly decide they're so discouraged they can't look anymore. who is that? >> oh, i think it is people who have been looking for a long time or maybe some more positive explanation like their spouse just got a job so they aren't looking as hard. but it is the downside of what's happening at the moment. jobs are being created, but not as many people are looking. so that helps