[applause] >> jimmy: you are saying george because you call him george jefferson. >> yeah, that's theyeah, i am pretty much george. everything except the walk. [laughter] >> jimmy: the walk is something -- why not the walk? anything you are going to take. >> it is not a sexy walk. no, it does not have enough swag. >> she likes a little swag. >> jimmy: a little swag in the walk. in what way are you like george jefferson? voila told us this and i wonder what she means. >> when she talks about me being george jefferson, she talks about me being organized. >> he loves dry cleaning. >> yes, i do. >> i get everything dry cleaned be not with creases. >> jimmy: when you say you got everything dry cleaned, does that mean t-shirts or underwear? >> no, he's not going to do that because it is going to cost money. >> i am like george that way, too. i am very thrifty. >> jimmy: only the things that needs to be dry cleaned. have you seen when voila on the show talking about you. >> i have. >> jimmy: do you feel you are being fairly represented? >> i feel like i am fairly being represented. >> jimmy:

who hates george jefferson, thomas, washington abraham lincoln, doctors use, and mr. potato head. [laughter] who hyperventilate on their yoga mats if you use the wrong pronoun. >> it's a new disturbing ideology that tells the most incredible lie. that children can actually change their gender. before they've even grown up. >> cpac also serving as a who's who of election denialism. featuring some of the most prominent -- of donald trump's lies of a stolen election. whether it's attacking lgbtq plus youth, reproductive freedom, for democracy itself, extremism is what winds and the modern-day republican movement. joining me now to discuss, political strategist, valencia johnson, she is a biden senior adviser and msnbc political analyst. and former republican congressman david jolly. it's good to see you both. congressman jolly, you've got trump still speaking live at cpac. we're not gonna play his remarks live. you are welcome. i wonder what it tells you that he's getting 62% of the votes in that strong? >> i mean, don't ever looked down on trump. he's still the front runner for the

americans do not deserve to be governed by deeply weird, nauseously woke people who hate george washington, thomas jefferson, dr. seuss and mr. potato head. who hyperventilate on their yoga mats if you use the wrong pro noun. the truth is, i do not hate anyone. so i say this gently. the biden administration sucks. if you put president biden in charge of the sahara desert he would run out of sand. >> harris: wow. steve hilton host of the next revolution was having a verbal revolution right there. you know what? it's going to be tough for biden according to these polls but it is early still. >> look, harris, we love senator kennedy. he is very entertaining. he is right on all of that. but the problem is, these defects that we see, that everyone can see with biden as a leader himself barely appropriate to use the word leader. he is not a leader. he is following the activists who run his party and donors. he is a machine politician and weak and feeble and not leading anything. his personal defects are there for all to see. the policy defects are there for all to see. failure after failure after failure. every i

george washington, thomas jefferson. theodore roosevelt. theodore roosevelt. ohosh. roosevelt. what a remarkable american. anotheof my favorite historians who who died very, very recently, not even in. right. but wrote one of the best single volumes ever written on american and the story of america right paul johnson, john theodore roosevelt rightfully was paul johnson's favorite president, right. he famously every american one time in his or her life should stand on the south rim of the grand canyon right. i know i have new yorkers in the room this evening, you know, he bequeath wreathed to the natural museum in new york that incredible museum. my wife jenny and i and our sons have visited this museum loved this museum. and you all may or may not know that in the last year and a half, the great theodore roosevelt memorial and statue in front of the new york museum was essentially crated and taken away. and i'm told last report that it will be finding a new home in dakota. god bless north dakota dakota. barry weis. writes eloquently about much of what i'm speaking evening. i've

people do not deserve to be governed by deeply weird, nauseously woke people who hate george washington, hate thomas jeffersonbraham lincoln, hate dr. seuss and hate mr. potato head. [laughter] [applause] who think, who 40 think our kids should be able to change gerunds at recess. president biden's record has been spectacularly awful. it doesn't give me any joy to say that, but honestly if you put president biden in charge of the sahara desert -- [laughter] he would run out of sand. rachel: i watch that and i think i want to see a joke-off between him and jimmy failla. [laughter] they're both really funny. joey: well, yeah. but jimmy count have what -- doesn't have what senator kennedy the has -- will: mr. poe today hoe head? joey: it's the pronoun. we can't have a mr. and ms.-- rachel: well, yeah, you can't define the gerunds. will: i love the point,st it's not just colloquialism, the thought experiment if you took down all international borders, would it have the net influx or outflow? would it have the world's largest increase or the world's largest decrease in population. rachel: there are no dreamers in

i read george washington's letters. i read thomas jefferson's. it's in the song. it's there. he notes denial. but we don't deny it's there. we can't look at it. we can't look at it. and i my students always say to me, well, where did you get this from? you know, i gave talk about three months ago. and after i finished this extensive talk before, a primarily white congregation woman came on and she said, do you have an notes? how many pages? so i said, know what's what's interesting about your question that i'm do i have footnotes? but. right. but a white person would not the exact question those that that have the control of history are not asked do you have footnotes. i am i simple by the way because i know that's going to be a question a third of the book is footnotes and it is that is when you read books, think it's a really long book, but then it's done. so. yeah, i mean, and it's there. i mean, i purposely i didn't want to light about what george washington was saying or what i heard about george washington and say. i went to his letters. so when he says that he's someon

so like young george washington over here, thomas jefferson patrick henry is kind of leading figures are prominent in in these land speculators they're to petition the british government through the virginia assembly, the house of burgesses and try to rectify the situation continually failed the continually reject their claims to issue them titles to this property and this really embittered them. the empire. now the reading you did for today points to or details their efforts to open these western to settlement and the responses of imperial officials, culminating in the quebec act and the definitive british rejection of these please and just shutting off of this land to any official recognition which we'll come back to a bit later in the lecture. so sum up the situation with the proclamation line. you had a few tensions created by this policy, right? so you have a general expectation among all american colonies after the end of the seven years war that the land the british gains through the treaty of paris is going to be open for settlement and expand ten of these colonies, but know

major series on the history of the american revolution and i can tell you that thomas jefferson and thomas payne and georgeamilton are rolling over if their graves if they think this person is carrying the mantle of what it is to be american. >> you are such a treasured chronicler of history and of our times. was reading you says about race, how and how it's touched how do you think that we will look back and reflect on the period that we are living in now? >> i think there's some really positive aspects and i think part of what we're seeing in desantis and others is a kind of reaction to anything that makes it nothing but a kind of neat, tidy, white picket fence, morning in america kind of view of things. this is a complicated world and race is in everything we touch, not because it's -- i'm looking for it, but because we were founded on the idea that all men were created equal. the guy who wrote that owned hundreds of human beings and didn't see the contradiction or the hypocrisy. our whole story is based in a discussion on race along with the meaning of freedom, and that's complicated, too, because free

during the revolution, thomas jefferson said he would like to reduce toussaint to starvation. georgen lamented and vilified that revolution. the u.s. imposed an embargo, recognized a new french government, but did not recognize the new haitian free government and imposed a comprehensive economic embargo on haiti until the emancipation proclamation. in fact, france imposed reparations on haiti in 1825. and the interest that haiti had to pay in loans that were american and french loans to service this debt to france, absorbed virtually 80% of haiti's available budget 111 years after the completion of their revolution until 1915. it was only in 1947 that haiti was able to pay off its debt. amy: the debt that was incurred as a result of france not having access to the enslaved people of haiti. >> the haitians had to pay france for no longer having the privilege of owning haitian slaves. that revolution provoked the end of slavery in the americas. and so, that's why it is so important that all african people, people generally in e americas, because haiti nded and fought in south american

you go back to the founding of our country, george washington understood that you know thomas jefferson understood that. alexander hamilton so they knew back then that there were going to be things that the presidents are going to have to with with secrecy and dispatch, as they wrote in the federalist papers. so the interesting thing is, when you go back to the beginning what you find is that there was only a very narrow and circumscribed number of secrets that the early republic recognized protected. so things war plants things like that they understood were things that had to be kept. but but what is striking to me is when you look at the rest american history the first hundred and 50 years in fact the u.s. was much more transparent than any other comparable country in the world, you know, and the united states kept very few secrets. we didn't generate a lot secrets. there was no central intel agency or anything like it. every other self-respecting, even like a middling power used to have what they call a black chamber to intercept and decrypt communications, whether, you know, betwee

it does not start with george washington or thomas jefferson would himself would be absolutely shocked to believe there are people in the 21st century who think that we should be dictated to by the hand of the 18th century or the 17th century. there should be a revolution even less in every generation. and if you had told me -- i mean, we all knew about originalism when i was in law school. we certainly did. i did. professors who subscribe to it. certainly political people who subscribe to it. but if you had told me that when i was in law school i would live to see the day when a majority of the united states supreme court would subscribe to the originalist position of the federalist society, i would have said that is not believable. that is preposterous. i'm not saying there wouldn't be able that wouldn't have fundamental constitutional disagreements with me on all kinds of things, but the idea that you'd have a court that would say originalism is where it's at, but that's what's happened. and it has been a 40-year campaign to do it. i actually had a moment on the floor of this senate

george washington, father of our country, a man of humility, who came to greatness reluctantly. he led america out of revolution. every victory and infant nationhood. off to one side, the stately memorial to thomas jefferson. a declaration of independence. flames with his eloquence. and then beyond the reflecting pool, the dignified columns of the lincoln memorial. whoever would understand and in his heart, the meaning of america will find it in the life of abraham lincoln. beyond those moment, those monuments to heroism is the potomac river. and on the far shore, the sloping hills of arlington national cemetery, with its row upon row of simple white markers bearing crosses or stars of david. they add up to only a tiny fraction of the price that has been paid for our freedom. each one of those markers is a monument to the kind of hero i spoke of earlier. their lives ended in places called belo wood. they are gone. omaha beach, salerno and halfway around the world on guadalcanal. tarawa. pork chop hill. the chosin reservoir. and in 100 rise paddies and jungles of a place called vietnam. under one such marker lies a young man, martin, trapped down, who left his job in a small town barber shop in 1917 to go

george washington actually lived down the block, right by where the museum of the american indian sets. and thomas jefferson lived on main lane, with these atoms -- a dams guys. they lived altogether on maiden lane. the mayor of the need city of new york is eric adams and the city council president of new york is adrian adams, so deja vu for those of us who remember the other atoms. -- adams. george washington, when he gave his amazing first inaugural address, before he gave it, he went to his friend, james madison. he said, i want you to take a look at what i am writing here. he did and he said you cannot deliver this address. why? because you cannot stand there and hold the 13 states together by saying slavery must come to an end, or by talking about anti-semitism and talking about a strong executive government. we just defeated the king, for god's sake. why would you say that? he rewrote the speech down to some 30 odd pages, and then madison and monroe together wrote the response to the speech. that is the way it should work, right, guys? you should write the response to the state of the union. but what

george washington. a general of the army, first president of the united states, extraordinary leader. some people likerd jefferson, declaration of independence, founded the university of virginia. amazing guy. something like medicine because he wrote the constitution, some people likeeo hamilton because e broadway show kicked ass. [laughter] there's all kinds of reasons people like certain founders. i like all of them but my favorite is john adams. some people say john adams is my favorite because he was said to be cranky and slightly overweight. [laughter] now while i think those are extraordinary qualifications for a national leader, they are not the primary reasons i like john adams. i love john adams because he was the heartbeat of the revolution, the heartbeat of the revolution. when all the other people in the continental congress thought we could make a deal with the king, we can make some little changes that will be okay for us, he stood up and said no we will never have freedom, we will never have liberty without independence and he never gave up. he went overseas and left his family for two years to rai