george kurtz, crowd fight cofounder and ceo. fbi guys don't exaggerate. he right, that every major company has been hacked by the chinese? >> at this point we absolutely subscribe to the same philosophy. if you look at proliferation and how active the chinese are, it is i'm impossible to stop them getting into any major corporation. most corporations had some incident, certainly over the past year. in many cases the chinese have been rummaging many large networks for many years undetected. david: when we say chinese though that is one person, chinese a country of over a billion people, who specifically is behind this? is this the chinese government? is it a branch of the government, what? >> we would call it a nation-state actor. so a lot of this is actually driven from china itself, the peoples liberation army of china where they have specific groups focusing on stealing intellectual property from some of the most coveted name-brand companies in america. david: what do they want? do they want my social security number? are they generally throwing out a b