when i first started, they were wearing the full uniform, the george lincoln rockwell crowd. it's changed. put a lot of enforcement on them because of their violence, but they're back now. they're strong and they got, they're having rallies and meetings an trying to clean up their act and change their name to alt rig, but it's all the same ilk. it's ko ales to that today. it's really sad for america. >> just because it's a tiki torch from bed, bath and beyond doesn't mean it's just as insind yar in terms of what it represents. also, gorka wearing that type of nazi pin and the rest of the dog whistle flurry iing that happen from this administration that even though president has disavowed david duke, it doesn't seem to stick. jim, i'm going to ask you to stay with me here. i want to bring in "new york times" national reporter, and the president has disajou vowed duke after the interview on cnn where he did not do enough to distance himself of that endorsement, has had to do that consistently ever since, but it's as if all of these people don't believe it. i think it comes to g