. >> shannon: wheel at illiterate earlier, new challenge to employer mandated vaccination, george mason covid suing over requirements and like writes this in th. my employer state institutions requiring. it violates mice constitutional rights to bodily integrity for no reason. the law professor joins us now to discuss. this is a case a lot of people all over the country are going to be watching. if they have not so far been kind to people challenging the mandate are students challenging university mandates. if one makes you think this case is different or you have a shot? >> this is a case obviously, shannon, potentially affecting tens of millions of americans because of all those who have contracted covid and recovered. this is different from the student case obviously because i'm an employee. rather than a student, it's different than an employer case. it really, what's different about the case and important that it's not just a broadside attack on employer mandates, that sort of thing. we are making a very specific case which is either right to bodily integrity. we should not be coer

host: thomas hoenig is a distinguished fellow at george mason university joining us this morning and taking your phone calls. bill is next in alabama. republican. good morning. caller: it is obvious that the debts of the united states far exceed our ability to ever repay it. we have so much off budget, not identified debt with regard to future commitments. if we needed money badly, let's say we got in the war, where would we get the money to borrow? who would lend it to us? if the chinese and some other not so friendly people in the middle east decided they would not lend, what do we do? guest: at the moment, the u.s. is a global reserve currency and the federal reserve can and has printed money. it creates money by buying government securities from the broad public or from the banks themselves. it can pay for those securities by creating the money to pay for those by creating the liability on the bank's balance sheets. they would be able to create money, print more money to fund the war. secondly, i would assume that the government would impose taxes on individuals in the united sta

and thanks to ross davies as a professor at george mason, there was mention of his role being on exhibitd the north carolina historical exhibit. the exhibits actually go back into the 18 nineties. and somewhere in this exhibit was james robe. i have not been able to spot it that the catalog says even at this point this row suffered from that terrible times. it's in bad shape. so not to shock anybody but unfortunately this is the state of the iredell road. is now in the collection of the north carolina museum of history. i think them very much for letting me come down two years ago to take it out of storage preventing is been out of its box for years because of the condition. but laid it out so we can take a look and see what is going on. you will notice right away. it is all black. no better white pieces. that shocked me. that led me down to what we're doing today. the main body of the robe is completely gone whenever the textile terms are that the weave is completely gone but you can see the sleeves those in her sleeves are intact the top part is fairly intact and these are actually the

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joining me to react director of national security law program and chores done at george mason university and chief counsel and foreign relations committee, camille jaffer. it is great to have you. mitch mcconnell makes a fair point. you see the terrorist attacks and does it give you pause mike do you think that we will see more terrorist attacks against u.s. interest and possibly even in this country? >> well, unfortunately i do think that is a serious possibility. with the taliban taking over control of afghanistan and at the same group, by the way, hosted usama bin laden and through the terrorist attack september 11, 2001, we can expect isis challenges the taliban but also shares against the united states and will return that region. al qaeda will return they will once again use afghanistan as the base for plotting against the united states of america but also abroad and allies in europe. >> trace: "the wall street journal" editorial writes this in part reading "the kabul massacre compounds the humiliation of botched afghan withdrawal and further in building jihadist. mr. biden telling

university, and a masters in international transactions from george mason university. we will recognize each of you for five minutes. for those of you who are test of my -- testifying remotely, there's a clock on your screen will tell you when your time is clicking down for witnesses were present in the chamber, have a set of lights. when turned yellow it means there is a minute let -- meant left. when turns red, your time is up. we would ask you to summarize. we hope to get through this panel entirely and our questions before the next round of votes. let me turn first to ms. rama sean driven. your recognize for five minutes. --ramachandran. >> the server justice commission -- we found that roughly one in three election officials felt unsafe in their jobs. approximately one in six disrupted their lives as a job-related concern. in order for democracy to function, we cannot accept the situation. election officials across the country risk their lives during the pandemic to help us vote safely in 2020. the highest turnout since 1900, and how are they being repaid? with in

george mason university -- and is assuming george mason university for their vaccine mandate.n his column today, about why he is suing about the vaccine mandate. he notes that he contracted and recovered from covid-19 which he says i later confirmed through antibody test. my employer is requiring covid vaccines. in my case, vaccination is unnecessary. my only other options are to teach remotely or to seek medical exemption that would require me to wear a mask, remained socially distance and submit to weekly testing. it would be impossible for me to perform my duties under such conditions. the ministration has threatened those who don't submit -- the administration has threatened to who don't submit, including termination of employment. he says my university can live up to this promise and treat naturally acquired immunity as at least equivalent to vaccinated status. his column today on why he is suing his employer over their vaccine mandate cynthia in the lone star state, republican. good morning. caller: i've been listening. regarding the border crisis. i'm in texas and we ar

a george mason professor, he got the disease, he has antibodies his doctors have told him that his naturalunity is good enough for him and he doesn't think he needs to be vaccinated. the university is insisting he be because they are taking dr. fauci's advice that one-size-fits-all, but they are ignoring the science.. they are as antiscience as you can possibly be, if you are not acknowledging the antibodies you get when you get an infection. vaccines are based on what happens to you when you get infected. >> sean: all right, let me ask you -- i think we are both, in many ways, in agreement on our constitution. i think we are also both, in many ways, in agreement on the idea of medical privacy and doctor-patient confidentiality senator. it seems, under these draconian measures and mandates, that all goes away. that is extraordinarily troublesome to me. >> well, you know, there are people writing these articles one woman wants us to have a no-fly list for those not vaccinated. her point is you have no right to travel. she actually has not read the constitution or the history of constitution

a george mason university law professor says multiantibody tests show that he's good to go after contractingf this, he sees the vaccine unnecessary so he's suing his employer over the vaccine mandate. professor zewiky joins me now you're not vax-hesitant, you're more nuanced. explain. >> if the vaccine had been around march 2020, i would have gotten vaccinated. covid is no fun. i'm not joking about i don't want to get covid again and i don't want to risk anybody around me getting covid. my point here is what the evidence clearly show that natural immunity provides the least amount of protection against the vaccines and clearly provides less protection than the vaccine such as the johnson & johnson. natural immunity is estimated to have a 90% to 95% protection level which is similar to the top vaccine. johnson & johnson, for example, is only 66%. so the second thing is, if you had -- recovered from covid and you get vaccinated, you don't have the same risk of side effects, you actually have increased risk of side effects because of hyper inflammation. what i'm saying, we're not challenging th

a professor at george mason who has a lawsuit that's very interesting going on.ive test. he has antibodies and they want him to be vaccinated he said i have the same immunity you have and all the scientific evidence and my doctor says i don't need it. so i think that will be an interesting lawsuit. because even in the old days when they say oh, well, everybody had a passport, you know, for small pox. do you know what the exception was, if you had visible pox you didn't have to take the vaccine and that was your passport to travel. >> ben: you know, senator, i fear as i know that you are concerned about that we are going to see a permanent pandemic reality in america where all of this is used to essentially have a much more powerful role for government in all of our lives and, you know, if francis collins was to be believed the ability to go in your home and make sure that you are masking up around your kids. is this a situation where there can be steps taken by governors and by the congress to push back against this and ensure that we don't end up in a situation

a professor of law at george mason university joins me now.ndates are not oppression or tyranny as some have claimed in recent days. >> thank you for having me. i think they are a restriction on freedom, but they're a very small one, with a very large payoff, not just for the person who gets vaccinated, but for other people who they come into contact with as well. that makes them different from other infringements on liberty like lockdowns, with little or no benefit except possibly to the individual themselves. i think vaccine are a special case, you get a small infringement on freedom, you get the jab, but then you can move on with your life. on the other hand, there's a big payoff in terms of saving lives. whereas other restrictions on liberty are more severe and very different. >> you've done all the reading, you've done the intellectual heavy lifting. but a wonder for others if whether libertarianism is an excuse to act selfishly and pretend it's about freedom and liberty. >> people of almost every ideology cite liberty when they think it

our second witness is a senior research fellow at george mason university. where he focuses on antitrust issues. he is the former general of the federal trade commission. prior to tenure at ftc general counsel, he worked with the heritage foundation and held several senior positions in the federal government. deputy director of the office of international affairs associates, acting general counsel, assistant general counsel and chief counsel of the national communications and information administration. quite a resume. our third witness is geoffrey levitt. he is testifying today on behalf of the pharmaceutical research and manufacturers of america, a trade group are resenting many of the country's leading biopharmaceutical companies pay when he previously served as senior vice president and chief counsel for leaders in china and counsel for pfizer and wyatt pharmaceuticals. he also previous he served as chair of the pharmaceutical research and many factual errors of america's -- manufacturers of america's law section. next is dr. rachel moodie. the vice pres

so far, there was another case where a professor at george mason university had said that he did notto get. he shouldn't be required to get a vaccine because he had natural immunity. how does that arguments. end up for employees who might feel that they don't need a vaccine at all. well i think there are two exceptions to that c mandates and neither of them fit with that professor wanted to do in his case, he settled his case with the university. uh but, uh, if you have a medical disability, or you have a sincerely held religious belief, then you will not be required to get a vaccine. if there is a vaccine mandate by your employer provided. that a reasonable accommodation can be made to you. and that may depend on a lot of things, including the level of disease in your community. the set up in your workplace and a variety of other factors. and what advice do you have for people who might feel uncomfortable and certain about where they stand with the vaccine mandates? are there resources for people to go and get some advice? i think the particularly the city of san francisco and the e

the original draft was written by george mason. contemporary of madison and jefferson. and the language is very significant. he said that all men should enjoy the fullest toleration -- toleration -- in the exercise of religion according to the dictates of conscience. the fullest toleration in the exercise of religion according to the dictates of conscience. madison -- he was only 24 years old -- thought that was not adequate. because toleration is a form of indulgence. that the ruling authorities grant people who they don't like. so he suggested a revision to read "all men are equally entitled to the full and the free exercise of religion according to the dictates of conscience". and the key phrase there "entitled to the full and the free exercise of religion." . in other words, he's implying that it is a right, not something in a a benevolent ruler grants. but some, and the leader on the opposition, was patrick henry. patrick henry pushed for a modified establishment of religion where others besides the ang li cans would receive funds for their schools and other instit

although i did clear it with him, started his college career as a scholarship volleyball player at george mason university in fairfax, virginia. decided that the d.c. area was too much for him -- i'm making that up, but for some reason he returned home to his native canada and finished his ba at simon frazier university outside of vancouver which he followed up with a ph.d. in history from the university of notre dame. darren started his teaching career in the midwest at purdue before a brief stint as an associate professor at the john c. danforth center at washington university. proving that you can, in fact, go home again darren moved to notre dame five years ago where he is an associate professor of history. his first book "from bible belt so sun belt: grassroots politics and the rise of evangelical conservatism" published in 2011 won several major awards including the ellis hawley prize from the organization of american historians. it's a wonderful book. i have used it so many times in teaching, both graduate and undergraduate classes that i've got three copies -- i'm not going to volunteer

, though i did clear with him, started his college clear at a scholarship volleyball player at george mason university and decide the advice gotts of d.c. were too much for him, i'm making that up. he returned them to canada and completed his b.a. outside of vancouver which he fold up with a phd in history from the university of notre dame. he started his teaching career in the midwest at purdue before a brief stint in the prove sorry of humanities in the john k. danforth center in religion and politics at washington university. proving that you can in fact go home again darren moved to notre dame five years ago where is he an associate professor of history. his first book "from bible belt to sun belt, plain folk, religion, grass roots and the rise of evangelical conservatism," won several major awards including the john h. dunning prize from the american historical society and the ellis holly prize for american historians. actually a wonderful book. i've used it so many times in teaching graduate and undergraduate classes that i've got free copies. i'm not going volunteer to give them away

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murder me for saying this -- he started his college career as a scholarship volleyball player, at george mason university in fairfax virginia. the d. c. area was too much for him. i'm making that up. but for some reason he returned home to his native canada and he finished his b. a. at simon frazier university just outside of vancouver which he then followed up with a ph. d. in history from the university of notre dame. there and started his teaching career in the midwest, at purdue. before a brief stint as an associate professor in the humanities at the john c dan fourth center religion politics washington university. proving that you can in fact go home again, moved to notre dame five years ago, where he is an associate professor of history. his first book from bible belt to sun -- grassroots politics, and the rise of evangelical conservatism published by w. norton into -- 2011. when several major awards including the jean h. donning with price from the american historical association. and the ellis hawley prize from the organization of american historians. it's truly, he's used it -- underg

have seen a challenge by law professor recently who has natural antibodies and is challenging george masonvice of his doctors, to get vaccinated anyway. so we are going to have to look at the details on this so-called new york pass. but the key here is that many of these proposals have been supported by people who say we really have to make life hard on the unvaccinated. cnn medical analyst said that recently. we have to make it as difficult as possible to live without the vaccine. so there is a type of coerced consent model that is kicking in here. steve: i was reading last night on this channel, sean hannity was talking about how apparently in new york city only about 33% of african-americans have gotten the shot, that means two thirds of african-americans in new york would be barred from going indoors to restaurants and shops and. ainsley: gyms. steve: gyms and stuff like that. >> that's right. and this is going to have a disproportionate impact on that population. it also leads a contradiction of other activities that are not prescribed in this way. two professors recently came out and

host: thomas hoenig is a distinguished fellow at george mason university joining us this morning andaking your phone calls. bill is next in alabama. republican. good morning. caller: it is obvious that the debts of the united states far exceed our ability to ever repay it. we have so much off budget, not identified debt with regard to future commitments. if we needed money badly, let's say we got in the war, where would we get the money to borrow? who would lend it to us? if the chinese and some other not so friendly people in the middle east decided they would not lend, what do we do? guest: at the moment, the u.s. is a global reserve currency and the federal reserve can and has printed money. it creates money by buying government securities from the broad public or from the banks themselves. it can pay for those securities by creating the money to pay for those by creating the liability on the bank's balance sheets. they would be able to create money, print more money to fund the war. secondly, i would assume that the government would impose taxes on individuals in the united state

george washington, and other founders. >> yeah, i can -- i get asked this a lot. so, ben franklin was a free mason and a lot of the major founders were free masons. and, that has remained a controversial subject through present day. i think for franklin, his membership in the masons was significant but he doesn't talk about it a lot. now, some people would say it's because it's a secret society. you're not supposed to talk about it. but i don't get the sense that it was for most of his life, a really central issue for him. and i don't think that the masons in the mid 1700s were quite as controversial as they became later on in american history. but they were very much a kind of, you know, it fits right along with what franklin said all his beliefs were. minimally doctrine all, very focused on service and benevolence and these kinds of things and it's sort of the epitome of the religion of the indictment. and its men, fellow shipping over you no issues of how can we do the most good in society and these kinds of issues, but it was also a special club for them. this is the great era of the social cl

mason put a stone. they realized the whole capitol was under construction when the cornerstone was and in 1991, you can see architect of the capitol george wright there standing looking down in the hole where they're looking for the cornerstone. they couldn't find it. they did leaf the patch on, a concrete where they were looking for the cornerstone and weren't able to find it. we will talk about the cleaning lady that's legendary in the capitol. there are still people, particularly women that go to capitol in the evenings and clean things up and there was a faithful back in 19th century who used a scrub brush like the woman has on the left here and would work long hours and she took pride. she would longer than she was paid to keep the building clean. there are a number of salespeople that still do that today. keeping the building clean. after the woman died, people said they could still hear that scrub brush going. they could tell the spirit was there honoring the building and trying to keep the building clean. now, one famous ghost is a continental soldier. a tomb that was built for george washington, right under the center of the dom