young george mcgovern was put on the waiting list. >> they didn't have any pilots to train us.idn't have any airplanes. didn't have any airfields so it was almost another year. it was the following february before we were sworn in. it was a very daunting task that was confronting those people in the military and in the roosevelt's administration. >> even though i applied in november of 1940, they didn't call me up until march of 1941. >> the army found it necessary to turn to private contractors. >> civilian pilot training schools first established in the late 1930s. the military used the pilots to give the boys the first les ones on single engine aircraft. robert sternfelg got the ride of his life. >> it was a disaster. because they gave us cheap skin helmets and they didn't have any ventilation and the sheep skin odor finally got to me. and i left my mark inside of that cockpit that day. >> the first time he took me up, he just did slow snap rolls and finished an hour of training, i was wondering if i was meant for the army air corps. >> they scrambled to build air bases and

even though george mcgovern is no longer with us, bob dole continues to champion this cause. on march 20 in a statement to the "washington post," he said, and i quote, eliminating the mcgovern-dole program would have a disastrous effect on the planet's most vulnerable children. without a reliable source of nutrition, these children face a lifetime of stunted physical and mental development in unrealized opportunity. this global school meals program remains one of the proudest achievements of my lifetime. it embodies the very best of america's values. saving this program means saving lives. it's as simple as that, end quote. mr. speaker, working through partners like the u.n. world food program, catholic relief service, world vision, save the children, counterpart international, and many more, mcgovern-dole has reduced the incidents of hunger among school-aged children. increased school enrollments and attendance t has increased the support of families and communities in education especially for girls. it is a proven success. instead of eliminating t. we should be strengthening

people like george mcgovern and bob dole and kennedy and schweikert and javits etc. these are folks who understood we have a national problem. this is about hunger in the united states. what direction will the nation take. i think of the critical issue for focus. they came up with school lunch programs, we do have another program, i continue to call it foodstamp program and these are under assault but people believed the problem, had to be something, they understood the reason they came to the congress which was to be able to put partisan politics aside, to focus on the issues. that being said, i mentioned in my remarks the earned income tax credit. if you look at the years in which the e itc, it began in 75 and was expanded over the years. if you look at that under what administration they occurred they were democrat and they were republican, who felt this was a way to raise people out of poverty. >> i don't want to stop you. let me interject the connection between the eeoc cns work is the core of the political success you are stressing the by taking connection out,

when people like george mcgovern and bob dole got together and kennedy and leahy and jabbot, et cetera, these are folks who understood that we had a national problem. and this was related to nutrition and hunger in the united states. so they came together and they said what direction will this nation take? as we move forward? because it is a singular critical issue for us to focus on. and we do have school lunch programs. we do have a whip program. we have -- i continue to learn about programs. but nevertheless there were people who believe that the problem was so grave that we had to do something and they understood the reason why they came to the congress which was to be able to put partisan clicks aside but to focus on the issue. okay. that being said, i mentioned in my remarks the earned income tax credit. it if you take a look at the years in which the eitc when it began, i guess it was in '75. it was expanded over the years, if you look at that under what administration they occurred, they were democrat and they were republican. who felt that this was a way to get people out of p

in january of 1973, george mcgovern had lost 49 states, maybe one, two, i can't remember.t. he was this extreme, the most liberal candidate the democrats have ever nominated was george mcgovern. liberalism was crushed because they lost. it became this par rye yah within the party. they can't go conservative. you say, who's the leader? who's the leader? how will we do anything. the next president of the united states is literally a guy no one's ever heard of in 1973, jimmy carter. there was no leader of the party. they did just fine in the next presidential election. >> are we in the -- in the current cycle, we're 121 days into donald trump, the cycle is so compressed and fast it does in a lot of ways feel like the democrats are in a vacuum. maxine waters is exciting, don't think she's running for president but leaders of pieces of the party but feels like without someone to speak for them, they feel they're all over the place. >> you have to understand inside professional politics when the other side is collapsing nobody worries about -- in fact, usually this is what they

watergate involved nixon campaign and his committee's involvement in the election of 1972 when george mcgovern ran, they broke into the democratic headquarters to obtain information, they also involved themselves in the new hampshire primary, the republican site and the democratic side. what really needs to be taken to the next level, what they appear to have done here, is conspired with a foreign power and tipped the election in favor of the trump campaign. that takes it to a whole other level, where you're really talking about treason, as opposed to outright criminality, with respect to interfering with a domestic election. >> where we are today is now another element of it is, this reporting that the president asked the fbi director to let it go, in terms of this investigation, into one of his top campaign advisors. what the president said and james comey wrote it down is i hope you can let this go, about the flynn investigation, is that obstruction of justice in the legal sense? >> it is if you focus on all the facts, if you look at the entire picture, you can't just take that one stafl ot

ignatius who founded the jesuits saw god in all things and all people if he lost to george mcgovern -- he was crushed -- the next day was an opportunity to see god and the next experience. and i got that sense from my mom as well, that not every day was happy. there's a difference between joy and happiness. think this pope, pope francis, has joy in his life, and his completely free and i think that sense of freedom, not attached to anything to use the ignatius concept of disordered attachment. he is not attached to anything and that sense of joy any mom and dad and i see'll n him is the reason i jumpedded in and did the pilgrimage so that's a long answer to your question but the since of catholicism that my mother and father lived and breathed every day and enjoyed every day, i'm trying to get that in my life every day as well. >> let's talk about his jesuit tradition. you talk in the book about the features of the order of jesuits and how do they -- talk about how they impact the pope as being the pope -- you messengered the first jesuit peep we have had. >> a really important part o

there's the old story about michael dukakis says to george mcgovern how long does it take to get over it and mcgovern says something like i'll let you know when it happens is this weigh being particularly hard on her because of the russians and because of comey and because she won the popular vote? >> i think she's actually dealing with it in a very responsible and deep way in many ways. i think personally i believe she would have been an incredibly good president at a time when the world is as complicated as anything i've ever seen and she is somebody, as i said at the time that was most experienced, better ready to be president than anybody it, and i think that she is dealing with it in a responsible way. i think she has taken some down time. i'm very glad she did a review. i'm looking forward to seeing all of it and that she's writing a book and i look forward to reading the entire thing. >> we want to look at the problem with north korea and whether you think president trump should meet with kim jong-un. we'll be right back. stay with us. will be that one... rogue... cloud. get he