but despite a really sort of heavy effort on the part of then senate majority leader george mitchell and house majority leader dick gephardt, they were never able to get the factions and the faction leaders in the democratic party to sit down and say, "here is what we can take to the floor." and the story that we tell in the book, which really was told us by tom foley, then the speaker of the house, about to be defeated as speaker in his re-election in washington state. foley said that the most maddening thing to him was that for a full month in the summer of 1994 when health-care reform was hanging by a thread, he had to arbitrate over and over again jurisdictional battles among house democratic committee chairmen about the question of who was going to control this program in the future if, by some miracle, it was ever enacted. and that, i think, gives you some measure of how parochial and sort of inbred the democrats had become at the end of that 40-year reign on capitol hill. c-span: we only have about a minute left and i want to ask you, when did the president say to you, "i set