be rolled in their own self-interest with a kind of despotism and it certainly leaves to what george orwell would describe over one century later and read one example of what tocqueville says it and his "tocqueville's discovery of america" that alone takes charge to watch over their fate to record it white citizens to enjoy themselves so all they think about is that. it labors for their happiness but once to be the fall agent and the sovereign power does not break their will but directs them and really compels auction but constantly opposes action and does not tyrannize but hinders, represses and restraints and gnomes until it reduces each nation to a flock of industrious animals with government as their shepherd. read one more paragraph one of the most haunting and resonant, talking of the enemy he thinks will somehow overcome americans for all of their energy and independence. >> when inequality is the common lot of society as in france the greatest and equality does not strike the eye when everything more or less the straight -- slightest inequality is wounding that is why the desire bec

want to pass which is going to measure the bmi of everybody to do that and support this bill, george orwellto try to in people's privacy. this doesn't bother me. the president there are some who say let the president have what he wants. >> sean: i have no problem with that at what point does the nanny state stop? monitoring how much salt intake you can get in a restaurant. putting in food, you go to mcdonald's they got to tell me how many calories are in a big mac. >> that's to allow you to make choices on your own. lots of people don't know whether they should have a big mac or chicken sandwich. >> sean: do you think they are stupid? >> no it is a matter of having as much information as possible to make the best decisions. >> sean: i love big macs and quarter pounders and i eat them a lot. >> before all of that stuff came out and we had the marvelous information americans were thinner. looking at this bill that has been proposed now all the children will have to have their bmi's assessed and reported. >> sean: where are of the -- where are the parents? >> you have congressman date we do th

want to pass which is going to measure the bmi of everybody to do that and support this bill, george orwells doesn't bother me. the president there are some who say let the president have what he wants. >> sean: i have no problem with that at what point does the nanny state stop? monitoring how much salt intake you can get in a restaurant. putting in food, you go to mcdonald's they got to tell me how many calories are in a big mac. >> that's to allow you to make choices on your own. lots of people don't know whether they should have a big mac or chicken sandwich. >> sean: do you think they are stupid? >> no it is a matter of having as much information as possible to make the best decisions. >> sean: i love big macs and quarter pounders and i eat them a lot. >> before all of that stuff came out and we had the marvelous information americans were thinner. looking at this bill that has been proposed now all the children will have to have their bmi's assessed and reported. >> sean: where are of the -- where are the parents? >> you have congressman date we do this reporting, welcome to obamacare

and i think what all these thinkers were getting at were summed up by george orwell, when he said a left jack boot to the head feels as painful as a right jack boot to the health there's -- jack boot to the heat. so they're very similar. what i think those ideas miss, though, is that they were both totalitarian communism and totalitarian nazism. used the state as a means, yes, but to a very different end. what was motivating the left was the pursuit of a rigorous equality. what was motivating nazism was the pursuit of other very rigorous racial hierarchy, concepts that what is important to nazism in particular, if we want to place it at a far right-wing theory, that there's this rigid racial hierarchy barked by law in a variety of weighs. so both systems are totalitarian, both are evil systems. but both are using the state to a different end, and in that respect there is some meaning to this left-right political distinction. the postmodern philosopher, richard, who died a couple year ago, pragmatist, capture the idea well when he said that really what progressivism is really about is the

another one that struck me as a young person was george orwell. i talked it over with my lawyer. he was saying that the first thing came to his mind was 1984. i said no, no, no, animal farm. check out animal farm and there you have the depiction again between a certain kind of a class analogy embedded in them. already you get that position from which orwell is speaking and the critique that he has about the nature of things. and across the years, you talk about invisible man. invisible man is a blend of satire and surrealism. depending on which chapter you read. from one chapter to another, because another part of satire is you know you have this idea that it is a very real person out there or organization or institution that he is talking about. but ellison was clear. at least that is what he explained to a couple of interviewers. he was not intending that to be marcus garvey, but it is hard for us not to see that, because every other characteristic and feature of that individual seem to suggest that. i don't know if he was being disingenuous when he was talking about a review.

by the way, if you go back and looked at george orwell's 1984, remember, george orwell, and left wing intellectual, so feared centralized planning and government that he wrote in 1984 not about the soviet union, not about not see germany, he wrote it about great britain and he id in his interviews that it is a warning to all of us that too strong a central government with the best of intentions can end creating the end of freedom as we have known it, which is also what hiatt said to all -- in "the road to serfdom," and not describing the soviets with the fascists but describing the threat of centralized plant your credit system. host: on page four of new gingrich pocket was book, the words are, the secular socialist machine represent as great a threat to america as nazi rmany or soviet union. atlanta, richard, independent line, you are on what newt gingrich. caller: good morning. we miss you in atlanta. guest: thank you. caller: you are right about the zoo. it is a huge change. it is a neat place. first of all deaths, let me get your take -- should congress be the only authority to ma

by the way, if you go back and looked at george orwell's 1984, remember, george orwell, and left wing intellectual, so feared centralized planning and government that he wrote in 1984 not about the soviet union, not about not see germany, he wrote it about great britain and he said in his interviews that it is a warning to all of us that too strong a central government with the best of intentions can end up creating the end of freedom as we have known it, which is also what hiatt said to all -- in "the road to serfdom," and not describing the soviets with the fascists but describing the threat of centralized plant your credit system. host: on page four of new gingrich pocket was book, the words are, the secular socialist machine represent as great a threat to america as nazi germany or soviet union. atlanta, richard, independent line, you are on what newt gingrich. caller: good morning. we miss you in atlanta. guest: thank you. caller: you are right about the zoo. it is a huge change. it is a neat place. first of all deaths, let me get your take -- should congress be the only authorit

by the way, if you go back and looked at george orwell's 1984, rember, george orwell, and left wing intellectual, so feared centralized planning and government that herote in 1984 not about the soviet union, not about not see germany, he wrote it about great britain and he said in his interviews that it is a warning to all of us that too strong a central government with the best of intentions can end up creating the end of freem as we have known it, which is also what hiatt said to all -- in "the road to serfdom," and not describg the soviets with the fascists but describing the threat of centralized plant your credit system. host: on page four of new gingrich pocket was book, the words are, the secular socialist machine represent as great a threat to america as nazi germany or soviet union. atlanta, richard, independent line, you are on what newt gingrich. caller: good morning. we miss you in atlanta. guest: thank you. caller: you are right about the o. it is a huge change. it is a neat place. first of all deaths, let me get your take -- should congress be the only authority to make war? guest:

it seems like, more and more, this country is becoming like george orwell's "1984."not think you guys are going to stop until you have big brother on every city and corner in the country. >> i do not think it is that stark. i, for one, am trying to prevent people from having body scans or locking down society. the fact of the matter is the, as i mentioned before, the shooter who was the second largest killer of americans was in oklahoma city. they have a very determined in theology -- ideology and they want to do a lot of harm. that is the number one threat. the people i know in the federal government, includin the department of homeland security, understands that. host: next call comes from riverside, ohio, a democrat, go ahead. caller: thank you for all that you do to protect our country and americans. you had the former head of the cia on. i've read a lot about what mcgovern has said, as well as the 9/11 commission on what took place. we have heard over and over again, and i do not want to make any excuses for people using violence to deal with problems, but i've

if you look at george orwell's 1984, he was a left wing and he feared centralized planning, that he wrote in 1984 not about the soviet union or nazi germany, he said a warning that a too strong central government with the best of intentions can ruin the invent of freedom. not describing the soviets or fascists or nazis but describing this threat of that system. host: newt's book, that the soviet machine can be a threat to us as the soviets. atlanta you are on. caller: good morning, newt, we miss you in atlanta. i got a couple of things, first of all, let me get your take on should congress be the only authority to make war? guest: well, no. i think there is a distinction. congress is the only authority that declare war. but from the very beginning under george washington and thomas jefferson and adsoms, the president has the capacity to wage war, and protecting america that they may need decisions past congress. i urged in 2001 an act of war after 9/11. it was the lawyers said don't do it. i think in retrospect they were wrong. when the united states is a long combat, it should be before