while it is not illegal, it's the technologyf george orwell's "1984." this is exactly what congress tried to prevent. >> oh, my goodness. george orwell's "1984." it's almost quaint now, isn't it, but that's where it started. >> look. we as a nation want to understand both the benefits and protect against the concerns. i appreciate the sentiment behind that news story. we must work hard on making sure that our privacy and our security is protected in the digital environment. that's why the president's made this a top priority, but as we all know today, that vision that the gentleman outlined is not the way we see it today. we've benefited tremendously from these investments. >> so the question to you both, we know all the caveats, the worries about privacy and abuse of information and hacking and all of that, but what--to both of you--are your most hopeful scenarios for this new technology as it progresses and the future of news? >> i think the new technology becomes the instrument of democratic participation. it redefines what citizen participation look