george orwell, you all remember him, right? from the book "1984" he laid out the very significant difference between patriotism and nationalism in a famous essay. patriotism is a devotion to a particular place or lifestyle that one loves. the key is, it's defensive as a belief, culturally and militarily. nationalism, however, is inseparable from the desire for power. it is power hungry and it is offensive, done with force often and almost always at the expense of others. germany, japan. the world war ii era enemies, they were nationalist states. america fought them, of course, because their ideals were and are anathema to our idea of democracy. antisemitism, these are nationalist movements. the last clues us into why david duke celebrated trump using the term saying this is why white people love him. as you know, this isn't the first time that trump has drawn the love of david duke, despite the president saying he has no desire to court such folk. nevertheless, he has stoked enthusiasm of white nationalists time and again. like

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used a phrase that prompted comparisons with george orwell's dystopian novel "1984." pres.mp: just remember what you are saying and what you are reading is not what is happening. we have to make our country truly great again. remember, "make america great again," and then in 2.5 years, it is called "keep america great." nermeen: that is trump earlier this year. george orwell's line reads "the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. it was her final most essential command." new talk about this particular feature of fascism as you see it in the u.s. under trump? >> trump is very clear that loyalty to him is the only guy. reality is the greatest threat to fascism because fascism is based on power and reality is a way of responding to power. you say it is false. yet to make everyone destabilized, not connected to the truth. you have to represent yourself as reality and show you are stronger than reality because fascism about which is no and power. amy: you are the son of holocaust survivors. how does that worry and your scholarly work and what you're seeing

>> you know laura, this was george orwell's dire warning coming to pass on that's not an overstatement. the founders made the amendment protecting free speech, the first one, for a reason. you can't have a truly free society if free speech is infringed or circumscribed ciry the president which the first amendment was designed to guard against or by these roving mobs of leftists that control the media and the narrative. they use fear, intimidation, extortion, blacklisting, boycotts and so many other manipulative ways as hammers against anybody whose speech they disapprove of. it is a form of totalitarianism, and if we don't watch out we will end up like europe where free speech is essentially out the window. >> laura: monica, it always ends up boiling over. they tried to do this even with the issue of abortion. the supreme court comes in and finds a right in the constitution that's not there, roe vs. wade. 45 years later we are still debating roe vs. wade, with hundreds of thousands of people. people are trying to say it's a choice but then others say your euphemistic language doesn't w

george orwell probably the greatest journalist confident english language in the second half of the 20th century wrote an essay called "notes on nationalism" where he makes exactly that point. it seems to elevate the interests of the nation above everything else, above all universal rights, morality, ethics and just says the only thing that matters is the interests of the nation as i define them and all the people who don't fit my definition, racial, ethnic are to be excluded. it's a very loaded word. it has all this history and liberal democrats and liberal democratic leaders certainly since 1945 have been very careful not to use that word. i remember once listening to a speech by margaret thatcher in new york at the council on foreign relations where threw made the distinction de gaulle makes between nationalism and patriotism. how it's appropriate to the love your country. when you love it because it is open, it is democratic, aring it protects individual liberties, that's patriotism. when you say that you're a nationalist, you're really saying your country triumphs even over universa

future to borrow from george orwell of the boot stomping on america's face forever. these divisive dangerous democrats must be defeated or before they destroy america. fred tell me what you think. joining joe and lisa, richard fowler. richard, i'm just gonna say it out loud, they threw doctor ford to the wolves, they have totally politicized this process, they have overturned the innocent until proven guilty notion. do you want to distance yourself from that or defendant. >> that monologue was quite something. >> i want to ask you, do you defend it or you feel uncomfortable with that? >> i disagree with the premise of it. let's just go back to where we are. i will give people over and over again that diane feinstein didn't handle this well. fred there should have been an fbi investigation here's where we are to today. those who believe he is a martyr and another group of people -- >> i'm talking specifically about how the democrats have handled it and the impact on our country for the long-term back no matter what, i'm not saying diane feinstein was great. >> they di

future to borrow from george orwell of the boot stomping on america's face forever. these divisive dangerous democrats must be defeated or before they destroy america. fred tell me what you think. joining joe and lisa, richard fowler. richard, i'm just gonna say it out loud, they threw doctor ford to the wolves, they have totally politicized this process, they have overturned the innocent until proven guilty notion. do you want to distance yourself from that or defendant. >> that monologue was quite something. >> i want to ask you, do you defend it or you feel uncomfortable with that? >> i disagree with the premise of it. let's just go back to where we are. i will give people over and over again that diane feinstein didn't handle this well. fred there should have been an fbi investigation here's where we are to today. those who believe he is a martyr and another group of people -- >> i'm talking specifically about how the democrats have handled it and the impact on our country for the long-term back no matter what, i'm not saying diane feinstein was great. >> they di

lying: government deception, secrecy, and power" written in 1973 won the george polk award and the george orwell award. he died at 88 years old in october 8 washington, d.c. and the pioneering black feminist poet, novelist and playwright ntozake shange has died at the age of 70 in bowie, maryland. shange is best known for writing "for colored girls who have considered suicide/when the rainbow is enuf." the story focuses on seven black women dealing with issues including racism, sexism, abortion, and domestic violence. this is shange in an interview from 2010 talking about writing during the early 1970's. >> it was very tumultuous time. the war in vietnam was not over yet. attica had just happened in 1971. the black panthers in chicago. 44 people. and the black panther movement was coming apart at the seams in californiaia. a really furiously .llied community amy: speaking on her work, shange once said -- "when i die, i will not be guilty of having left a generation of girls behind thinking that anyone can tend to their emotional health other than themselves." and those are some of the headlines.

patriotism versus over the definition of patriotism versus nationalism which got been back to george orwellnk the president was right, given what you say about blue—collar workers, and his base, to talk about nationalism, given the connotations with white nationalism in the states and fascism in europe? ido in the states and fascism in europe? i do not think so. i said that on cnn and brought in barbara tuckman‘s book. and she talked about nationalism. people who study history know it is not a great word. he is trying to stick a finger in the eye of the mainstream media, domestic and international. people tell him not to say that, he said that in the speech. people tell me not to say it, but i will say it anyway. not to say it, but i will say it by not to say it, but i will say it anyway. by those definitions, he is more of an america first agenda, helping middle—class people, lower—middle—class people. i do not see him as a guy who wants to start a war. i give you good news, i have beenin a war. i give you good news, i have been in meetings with him when the decisions have to be made and h

a little under 200 years after that, george orwell wrote an essay, and he says it's an imperfect wordtionalism for this phenomenon he wanted to describe as a habit of assuming that whole blocks of millions of people can confidently be labeled good and bad. in the habit of placing one groups beyond good and evil to recognize no of the duty and that advancing its interests, his habit of what he called nationalism but he was describing tribalism was marked by certain things like obsession. obsession. any criticism or slur against your group provoked a vigorous and it sometimes violent and forceful response. and indifference to reality in that what might be outrageous acts by others are forgiven within your own crib or not even considered to be outrageous when they're committed by our side. so identity politics has generated a a certain type of crisis of attachment that seems to be at a point where will see it continue in a pace, if this there is right, which is that the more our fundamental tribes, family, household, community right debt and are unrestrained and are shifting, the desire

ask george orwell and he'll tell you that nationalism came with aggression.k where the president chose that world, nationalist, he clearly thought about it very hard. and it is wrapped up in these issues of dominance of one race and one country over another. and it doesn't surprise me at all, but i think this is what donald trump believes. >> it's obviously what alt-writealt alt-righters and neo-nazis believe. this is not new. he was told that this kind of terminology was rooted in 1930s movements, pro nazi movements and then continued to use the language and added in, folded in language about globalists. so this is just a continuation of a deliberate policy to activate the fears and signal not just to the alt right that, hey, you know, i understand your point, you know, and it all ties. everything is one thing right now. the caravan is a bunch of brown people moving toward america, 3,000 people moving to a country -- moving towarder a country of 330 million people. but it's activating and, of course, the terrorists in pittsburgh who i won't name, you know, w

read george orwell, "1984." i swear that is what is happening now. host: joy into cargo.teve in south carolina, good morning. caller: wow. listen. you can chase this rabbit all over the place. gore is plenty of blame to around. -- my are sitting there candidate was darrell castle and i am being honest. you had him on c-span, thank goodness. there is so much blame to go around and republicans and democrats alike, they have to share responsibility here. it's a lot of rhetoric that is not civil and what i want you to realize is these people will not miss the opportunity to spread hate and discontentment in front of a camera. at thethe scenes, congressional country club, they are making backroom deals like it has always been. he kinddsey graham said of hated it because those are my friends over there. they are not the same people in real life and behind the scenes as they are in front of a camera. you have got to understand that and relax. host: do you want them to be friends? should they be enemies and politics? caller: no, that gains nothing. the people can spread -- they c