then stand on a george osborne speech as nick says, it . t change _ osborne speech as nick says, it isn't change it_ osborne speech as nick says, it isn't change. it is— osborne speech as nick says, it| isn't change. it is extraordinary. the economic— isn't change. it is extraordinary. the economic consensus - isn't change. it is extraordinary. - the economic consensus established under— the economic consensus established under the _ the economic consensus established under the coalition— the economic consensus established under the coalition government - the economic consensus established under the coalition government in i under the coalition government in the then— under the coalition government in the then david _ under the coalition government in the then david cameron _ under the coalition government in the then david cameron party- under the coalition government in the then david cameron party andi under the coalition government in - the then david cameron party and the way it's— the then david cameron party and the way it's carried —

that's right for - the -- george osborne gone down the the —— george osborne gone down the typical— the politics of the moment by blaming the previous administration. he hopes _ blaming the previous administration. he hopes very much that the public will go _ he hopes very much that the public will go along with fat. and blame the conservative administration. chiefiy— the conservative administration. chiefly what keir starmer is government is likely to do. i think it was— government is likely to do. i think it was devoid of hope, this speech. it it was devoid of hope, this speech. it was _ it was devoid of hope, this speech. it was very. — it was devoid of hope, this speech. it was very, very dire, it was very abrupt— it was very, very dire, it was very abrupt in— it was very, very dire, it was very abrupt in his— it was very, very dire, it was very abrupt in his nature. there was very little _ abrupt in his nature. there was very little essence of things getting any beiten _ little essence of things getting any better. but in one respect i'm glad he was _ better. but in one respect i'm

but paddy, the irony of george osborne advising them to be less miserable when in fact this is the georgeorne playbook from 2010 where you spent basically the first, what year, 18 months of your government blaming the last law for creating a mess? yeah, but it worked. it worked, and also it wasn't a year, it was ten years. i mean, i would have been able to retire if i'd had a pound for we fixed the roof when the sun was shining. so, i mean, no—one�*s saying it's not a strategy that doesn't work. i mean, it could work to blame the tories until he eventually leaves office. it is worth remembering the differences between '97 and 2024, which is the popular vote. tony blair got 43% of the popular vote and keir starmer got 33 and change. so, actually, there's been a lot of punishment delivered to the conservative party by the voter. keir starmer has got to behave like prime minister, not like he's campaigning. and that means he's got to take us all with him and he can'tjust preach doom from his pulpit, say those who've watched this roll before, jo, not me. yes, i have watched it. the difference

it worked politically for a few years for david cameron and george osborne.terity on the country's books but labour are trying to do something similar now, to say we are going to do something that is really tough, you will not like, it is unpopular with voters but it's not our lot, it is the last lot.— with voters but it's not our lot, it is the last lot. nick eardley, thank ou. ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky, has vowed to respond after at least four people were killed in a second consecutive night of heavy russian drone and missile strikes. these are pictures from central ukraine, where local officials say two people were killed when a hotel was wiped out in mr zelensky�*s home city. two people also died in drone attacks in the city of zaporizhzhia. moscow claims it's using precision weaponry to target energy and other infrastructure. yesterday, russia launched one of its biggest attacks on ukraine since the start of the war. our reporter abdujalil abdurasulov told us what happened across ukraine overnight and what damage was caused by this bombardm

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reminiscent of i divya cameron and george osborne he certainly was.2010 and soon after that election remember they brought out that famous, there is no many left notes numerous times. they still did it this yearfor ten years numerous times. they still did it this year for ten years later. sir keir starmer is adopting a similar strategy try to argue but i have been left with come the inheritance of the last government, it is good to be a bigot, difficultjob to fix it and i am going to have to make some very tough decisions. it was a major speech not about policy, it was about tone and expectation management. trying to keep expectations low as possible, especially in advance of that budget. we've already had this announcement on winter fuel payments being asked for a lot of pensioners. the expectation is that there will be some tax rises as well. not clear what they will be. the government set in the last election they will not touch income tax, vat, national insurance but certainly speculations on capital gains and private pensions could something they

. >> do you know what it was supposed to be built george osborne george osborne is now 45. some horrific mistakes. >> don has a huge nuclear roots. don has a huge advocate for this . don has a huge advocate for this. but i still question this intermittency problem. jay. >> well, but the zonal thing makes sense. >> and this is he's absolutely right. this is a telegraph story. it's written by a telegraph reporter who presumably is the person. it's not denied, it's not denied by executives, but it is. but it is. it's been denied. >> but it is said. >> but it is said. >> but it is said. >> but it is somebody who has had a chat with a telegraph reporter and put a story. >> are you entirely confident of the direction we're going in with renewables? i want more renewables. >> you do? yes, absolutely. and i want every single house. and this should have been done years ago. i mean, nick clegg famously said, oh, there's no point in doing nuclear. it'll be 20 years before we get the benefits. you know, in the coalition government, you know, he did make some mistakes. that was one of t

how is this any different to what david cameron and george osborne did in 2010 when they blame 0sbornehe outgoing labour government? it is a serious and honest speech from keir starmer. he wants to level with the british public about the state of the country the labour government have inherited. about the state of our prisons, which are overflowing and bursting because the conservatives failed to put the investment into prisons, to fix the problems. the state of the public finances, where we have uncovered a £22 billion black hole, partly because of our broken asylum system whether government put in place, i believe, a inhumane policy, leaving people in limbo, never processing their claims, effectively leaving them in accommodation permanently and the government was forced to dip into the reserves, the many supposed to be put aside for a rainy day. what keir starmer is being honest with the public about the broken state of the public finances and saying to the public he will take the tough decisions to fix them, and when you fix the finances you can rebuild the country for the better.

the borrowing from the george osborne —— they are borrowing from the george osborne and david cameronk. you say that things are so terrible that we will have to make really difficult decisions. don't blame me, blame the last lot. we are trying to fix the mess. they have evidence to suggest that argument isn't completely fabricated. however, icannot emphasise enough that making decisions is difficult. and the government will have to choose to do certain things. and when it makes those decisions, it will face the consequences of its actions. and in that sense, yes, you can blame the last administration. yes, you can say that there is not as much money as we hoped or thought or could have been available if the economy had been available if the economy had been managed in a different way. but you still have to take responsibility for the decisions that you are taking. so in that sense, there is no doubt this government is going to feel a lot of pressure over the next few weeks, particularly leading up to the budget at the end of october. because it is going to have to explain why it is ch

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i mean, he talked about george osborne, talked about george osborne, talked about flat taxation, flatnd michael howard was still the leader , and david was still the leader, and david cameron pledged to leave the european people's party, the epp and the referendum on the lisbon treaty, all of that which they didn't do. and that was very much playing, dare i say, to, to the right of, of the party. and then, of course, having won the leadership, he moved, gradually i would say to the centre and some sort of form of that i think needs to happen. but the idea that you can somehow, after reform have got 4 million votes, pretend that, you know, that didn't happen and just doubled down on on being a liberal democrat. yeah. doesn't make any sense to me. >> well, who had to ask that question then? jacob rees—mogg. now coming up, jacob, on the state of the nation, what have you got planned? >> well, we're going to have more of your fantastic interview with with suella and discuss that and get into the nitty gritty of what she's been saying. and i think it's really important her analysis of wher

i mean, he talked about george osborne, talked about george osborne, talked about flat taxation, flatd michael howard was still the leader , and david was still the leader, and david cameron pledged to leave the european people's party, the epp and the referendum on the lisbon treaty, all of that which they didn't do. and that was very much playing, dare i say, to, to the right of, of the party. and then, of course, having won the leadership, he moved, gradually i would say to the centre and some sort of form of that i think needs to happen. but the idea that you can somehow, after reform have got 4 million votes, pretend that, you know, that didn't happen and just doubled down on on being a liberal democrat. yeah. doesn't make any sense to me. >> well, who had to ask that question then? jacob rees—mogg. now coming up, jacob, on the state of the nation, what have you got planned? >> well, we're going to have more of your fantastic interview with with suella and discuss that and get into the nitty gritty of what she's been saying. and i think it's really important her analysis of where

i'm not sure about george osborne, but certainly rishi did after covid and the idea was to get the moneyild things like hs2 and the third runway at heathrow, neither of which, of course, seemed to be happening, the idea of this is the way the canadians do it is that they, they invest rather in stocks and shares. they invest in private companies . so one of the, companies. so one of the, teaching pension funds in canada owns 25% of the british energy giant sse, another one is a big investor in thames water. >> so they go private companies are they. >> yeah. so some some companies do. well thames water clearly is not doing well . the key to not doing well. the key to a pension fund is it must be there to give a give a decent retirement to existing pensioners and future ones. and what rachel reeves has to actually sort out is to make sure that you get that return. and the big question is if the return from investing in infrastructure is so great, why aren't they doing it now? >> paul goodman is this a way of getting bridges built without the state paying for it? i mean, the state paying for

i'm not sure about george osborne, but certainly rishi did after covid and the idea was to get the moneyild things like hs2 and the third runway at heathrow, neither of which, of course, seemed to be happening, the idea of this is the way the canadians do it is that they, they invest rather in stocks and shares. they invest in private companies . so one of the, companies. so one of the, teaching pension funds in canada owns 25% of the british energy giant sse, another one is a big investor in thames water. >> so they go private companies are they. >> yeah. so some some companies do. well thames water clearly is not doing well . the key to not doing well. the key to a pension fund is it must be there to give a give a decent retirement to existing pensioners and future ones. and what rachel reeves has to actually sort out is to make sure that you get that return. and the big question is if the return from investing in infrastructure is so great, why aren't they doing it now? >> paul goodman is this a way of getting bridges built without the state paying for it? i mean, the state paying for

david cameron and george osborne constantly saying they were left such a mess they would have to do difficultmean some of the taxes the government has not ruled out putting up are increased in the budget. what keir starmer is trying to do is say, we have no choice because of the mess we have been left. some of that i think it is understandable. it�*s pretty clear there were some things the government didn�*t know about during the general election, be that how much money had been budgeted for public sector pay rises, be that some of the decisions that were made in a home office. it seems some of that stuff was genuinely new. when you hear keir starmer say it is painful and difficult and it�*s the fault of the last lot, do remember that the broad picture on the economy was known about, that not all this stuff was a surprise. and that keir starmer and his team and the chancellor have known about that for some time. the big question i think we will be asking over the next few weeks is what does that pain look like, who feels that pain? is it spending, is it tax rises? the answer to the second par

government wants to lift back aid spending to 0.7% of gdp, where it was put by david cameron and george osborne rather than an immediate when affordable, like with the defence spending target. is that a good thing? do you think? i mean, we're giving china £8 million a year. is that the right way to spend money when we've got pensioners, you may want more money for their their winter fuel allowance. >> we've just had a whole discussion on refugees and in fact, all the spending on refugees is a double spending, if that. even if it's spending here in the uk on them it is classed as aid. and so the vast majority of aid, i think most people would agree, is helping people would agree, is helping people who need it. and it also reduces pressures on britain. it stops people coming here. it builds up other countries economies. it means that we have people to trade to with trade more refined goods, because our economy is not really based on unrefined goods, it's on high end goods. nowadays, you want to get there as soon as you can. yeah, we want to encourage them to develop quicker, but there will always

he keeps talking about his deal george osborne we're going to give them.be done, he says. what do we get? do we get like a feta cheese recipe? what what the greeks giving us when we give them these marbles, pay when we give them these marbles, pay for them. >> did we pay for these? >> did we pay for these? >> give back nothing. give no nothing. we're keeping all of it. that's what i say. >> i'm. you know what? i hate to say it. i agree with nick. yeah. i mean, in a way, it would make him happy. they're an ally, and they've been asking for it a lot. and give it back to them and tell them it's garbage. and you and your parthenon. you might as you fix it, fill in the walls. it's too much open space there. put a new roof on the parthenon. it's from the parthenon. >> basically . people like chris >> basically. people like chris bryant, who has floated the idea again. he said, it's a matter for the trustees, and this is seen as sort of opening the door to loan them the government saying it's not going to be a permanent return, but they're opening the door to loa

is rachel reeves taking a leaf out of george osborne's book, the election where you got elected whereis an element of that here but i _ brown? i think there is an element of that here but i would _ brown? i think there is an element of that here but i would like - brown? i think there is an element of that here but i would like to - of that here but i would like to see, _ of that here but i would like to see and — of that here but i would like to see and i_ of that here but i would like to see, and i say this about my party and across— see, and i say this about my party and across the political spectrum, i would _ and across the political spectrum, i would like — and across the political spectrum, i would like to see all politicians really — would like to see all politicians really level with the public about the fact — really level with the public about the fact that actually, we can only spend. _ the fact that actually, we can only spend, government only spend what it takes from _ spend, government only spend what it takes from your taxes. we have to have _ takes from your taxes. we

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whenever anyone mentions george osborne, there is very little about a lot else that he did.nd unpack it. it is like buying a house and you find that the roof is caving in. how long that the roof is caving in. how long that lasts is another question. i that lasts is another question. i was going to say it is not even about— was going to say it is not even about austerity, _ was going to say it is not even about austerity, one - was going to say it is not even about austerity, one of- was going to say it is not even about austerity, one of the . was going to say it is not even| about austerity, one of the big problems— about austerity, one of the big problems we _ about austerity, one of the big problems we have _ about austerity, one of the big problems we have had - about austerity, one of the big problems we have had over. about austerity, one of the big| problems we have had over the about austerity, one of the big - problems we have had over the last ten years. _ problems we have had over the last ten years, particularly— problems we have had over the last ten years, part

on the left of the party here, we could say, as you've just mentioned, him, david cameron and george osbornestride? >> okay. so i don't think these spectrums are labels. >> no, no, no, because you've set up this false question or no, i don't accept the premise that you've laid out because i think if you take your so—called right end of the spectrum, you will probably say low net migration, low illegal migration, low illegal migration, low illegal migration, low taxes, everything the conservatives promised but didn't deliver. >> they're not a preserve of the right things i passionately believe in, and people on the so—called left of the party, they are common ground issues. >> so many people coming to the studio saying that they believe in low tax and low immigration. >> and yet, lo and behold, the tories face an armageddon because they don't deliver on deliver on either of those promises. but i'll tell you, not just in this parliament, but in previous ones. >> let me tell you how we're going to deliver on lower taxes, okay. and the importance of doing so. how we deliver is by running a more

we think back to george osborne when he was of course, thinking about, you know, trying to improve hisn the treasury. would he potentially take over from david cameron in number 10? and he went he went on a quite a stringent fitness regime that saw him doing laps and press ups in saint james's park and, and having a new sza star haircut and special sort of poses on the, on the, on the platforms at conferences and so forth. you know, the politicians do have these, you know, they do have these, you know, they do have these sort of makeovers. and if you're going to be leader of the opposition, there's no way around it. you're going to be on telly most days. there will be a calculation amongst those who work for robert jenrick that people will make some fairly instantaneous decisions, not necessarily listening to what he has to say, but just looking from looking at his appearance and taking a view as to whether they like him or not. based on that. and it's not. it's not particularly a world that i would necessarily want to live in. and i'm sure many of your viewers want wouldn't want to li

i mean, to get british perspective on that , british perspective on that, george osborne's austerityabout £30 billion of cuts . this was 72, 73 billion. cuts. this was 72, 73 billion. so over double the incredible, austerity post 2010. so it was drastic and it called for some really drastic possible measures. so they saw that list. we can only assume that they would have read the information that they were given. but the book doesn't suggest that she was herself advocating that. it's just that she was advocating severe cuts . and as advocating severe cuts. and as we then know, other things happened and she decided to cut , happened and she decided to cut, kwasi kwarteng, her own chancellor >> sir anthony, your book is also it's devastating about her 49 days in office. she effectively failed every single test you set. sum up why she was such a bad prime minister because she didn't have the right character. >> she modelled herself on ronald reagan and on margaret thatcher, but she didn't appear to have learned that margaret thatcher took up to two years preparing the ground for the rad

he served in that treasury under george osborne.'s not forget, under iain duncan smith, the system that we now have for welfare . so she's now have for welfare. so she's she understands economic conservatism whilst also still being socially conservative and arguing for those particular causes. and she's been there and doneit causes. and she's been there and done it at the very top of the table. and i think that we don't need to pander to reform to win back voters. what we need to do is become credible, and that means stopping fighting. start coming up with policy proposals that sound sensible, that are deliverable. and i think you've got canada is a perfect example of where a conservative leader has managed to regain the narrative and the control from the public, whilst also talking strong on borders, also talking about building homes. >> she talked about the sidebar issues, didn't she ? what did she issues, didn't she? what did she mean by that? that they were distracting the party? >> well, for example, the internal party fighting

course , be accused they would of course, be accused of bringing back the sort of austerity that george osbornein in the 2010s. keir starmer and rachel reeves find themselves in a real bind here, and the conservatives are sounding quite gleeful today. >> i can imagine they are. yes, indeed. olivia utley, thank you very much. you'll be keeping us up to date. we'll probably get some kind of announcement from mick lynch and the rmt. i would imagine, maybe in the next hour or so. so there we go. gb news political correspondent olivia utley now for a bit more of kind of the political commentary on this, we've got the spectator's political correspondent, james hill, and james, i've been reading some of your work with quite a lot of intrigue because, you know, the allegation is just allegations. but of, you know, cronyism and corruption or some kind of jobs for the boys type scenario here, it's looming large really over the labour party at the moment . quite party at the moment. quite significant donations from the unions, including one to none other than sue grey's own son, who now i believe does wor

the perhaps a bumper tax raid in october, austerity that might make george osborne blush in the nhs andion. winter fuel allowance has been plundered for pensioners, while asylum seekers are being pampered. two tier policing allegations. it's been a torrid time , james. for sir keir time, james. for sir keir starmer thus far, all these popularity ratings, early term blues or indication of something more to come . more to come. >> well before we come to keir starmer, martin, i don't think any asylum seeker has been pampered that i can see. i don't think that's the experience at all. so i have to challenge that off the bat. however, keir starmer's popularity rating you're absolutely right, it's taking a plummet and i think it's to be expected. i mean , it's to be expected. i mean, there's always going to be this situation right when you're on the outside and you're in opposition and you're shouting in, you know, there's always going to be that chance to build your credibility, to build your portfolio of , you know, of portfolio of, you know, of everything you can offer the country and ever