joining us is former new york governor george pataki.ne world trade, it's inspiring, but i remember, you know, 10, 12 years ago the big debate was, well, we can't rebuild the tall buildings down there because they're going to be a target. >> i was told that directly. you have to scrap the plan. you can't build the freedom tower. it's too much of a target. it's going to be an economic white elephant. i just said, no, we're going to keep the footprints as hallowed ground, we'll have a sacred memorial, a museum there, bum we're going to rebuild and we're going to soar higher. we're going to go 1,776 feet tall and i'll tell you, for all the horror and for all the sadness we all feel today, it's inspiring to know that we weren't cowed and we have soared to new heights and i'm proud of that. >> governor, where were you on this day 15 years ago? how did you get the news? >> i was in the city actually. my daughter, who was working early for a news station, called me and said did you see this? and i had not. so i turned on the television, and i w

fact whether he's tried or not, you know, i used to think he was a great guy, i recommended to george patakie be the u.s. attorney in new york. i don't get joy out of saying the things i'm saying, what he's done is absolutely contrary to how the fbi operates. and i'm sure the agents involved in this thing feel they've been stabbed in the back. liz: so setup of mishandling of information, do you think there is political pressure put on mr. comey? >> well, unless somebody has come down from the -- the martians have come down and got in his head, i don't understand why he would be doing what he's doing. since when, when the congress sends a letter to someone, a subpoena and a letter identifying them not to destroy evidence, and after the fact, they summarily destroy all this evidence, that is obstruction of justice. that is a federal felony, and that's been conducted by numerous people. when do you have people who are potential co-conspirators in the interview with the main conspirator? when does that ever happen? and when do they call all the shots? i think it's an outrageous series of events

great message that morning and you're right, we had the treasury secretary, paul o'neill, we had george patakie governor of new york, we had rudy giuliani, we had new york's two senators, the police commissioner, the fire commissioner, the oem commissioner, but when it came time to ring the bell we wanted to send the message and so it was rung by the first responders. billy fisher raises the bell and he raises his arms and says, you've killed thousands of people, you've destroyed billions in property but you can never defeat the american way of life, which is what they were trying to do. opening the market was so important, a message that life would go on, we would rebuild. you want to give credit beyond first responders who deserve all of the credit, people from verizon, people from con edison. i watched them go into 140 west street, a dark building that was flooded, and stand in three and four feet of water. it was incredible. >> it was incredible. you exhibited such leadership. thank you from all of us for your leadership on that date. >> thank you. your calm message to your viewing audienc