. >> hey, george pickle. i'm going to say your name loud in case the slaw looking for you. >> i have respect for her. we have played the cat and mouse game on numerous occasions. if she catches me doing something, she's going to bust my ass and i've seen that. >> i've seen her giving advice that only a mother would give. but at the same time, with the sternness to let you know you have a spanking coming if you don't take that advice. >> valerie, jerry mentioned sometimes you'll use just motherly advice. how are you treated by the inmates? is it different because you're a woman? >> well, sometimes, yes, it is. you know, i do use that mother role on them. you know, i have grown kids. and so when i deal with them, i talk to them sometimes like they're mine. and they listen to me. you have some that listen. they just need that motherly advice. >> jason, what's the difference in relationships? when you're in there, is it important that you are different from the guards, that you can develop your own rapport? >> ab