that many see their campaign as justified we heard from political commentator david vance and george potter who's a social justice campaigner. here we heard of one bunch of lawbreakers because another bunch of lawbreakers are being deported i'm not sure what the problem is here it's not a question of taking the sledgehammer to break and not as a question of in forcing the law the fact is that they set out to break the law of which they were fully aware in this country if you break the law you pay the consequences thirteen of the people on that flight are still in this country and the number of already being given indefinite right to remain we have a crazy system in this country where so-called hostile environment was intentionally created by the previous home secretary theresa may who's now the prime minister and part of that has been you know these barely legal flights that are clearly brutal and uncompassionate and many of the people on them still have opened up here to these people acting to prevent people illegally being taken out of the country it's a horrible situations it's quite cle

of course that's not true in a "washington post" op-ed last night, neal katyal and trevor potter and george conway, husband of kellyanne say trump's denials are weak and dangerous. he's offered up three defenses. his first was to repeatedly deny. he flatly denied knowledge of the payments to stormy daniels. now he says he knew. now trump has turned to other excuses. they turn to another case of john edwards to say it was wasn't a crime. even if it was it wasn't a biggie. there are plenty of crimes so what, who cares? the former is a very week legal argument and the scary. let's me bring in my panel. donna edwards. brian bennet. harry litman. former u.s. attorney, deputy assistant attorney general and nelson cunningham. also an alumni of the clinton administration. served at counsel of the white house administration. harry, i'm a layperson here, but i was surprised by the mueller filing today. it's as if they wanted to course correct some bad reporting that was being told kind of sympathetically toward flynn that this poor man had been duped and set up to lie to the fbi. >> yeah, it was a ve

former acting solicitor general neal katyal along with former fec commission chairman trevor potter and lawyer george conway, husband of kellyanne all say trump's denials are weak and dangerous in their words. they write, quote, trump has offered up three defenses, first was to repeatedly lie for quite some time he flatly denied knowledge of those $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, but now he seems to be acknowledging that he knew. now trump and his acolytes have pointed to an earlier case involving former senator john edwardsed to arguing that what trump did wasn't a crime and they say even if it was a crime, it wasn't a biggie. there are lots of crimes, so what, who cares? the former is a weak legal argument, and the latter a dangerous one. with that, let's bring in our front four, or lead-off panel for a busy friday night. donna edwards representing the great state of maryland. brian bennett, senior white house correspondent for "time" magazine. harry litman, former deputy assistant attorney general under president clinton and nelson cunningham, alumni of the clinton administration where he serve

george h.w.: this is less serious. we are up there with harry potter and i don't know who the latest movie star is. it may not stay forever. >> do you know how many you have sold? george h.w.: i don't. i think it has had its fourth printing in this hanging in there better than i thought it would. we had a lot of fun with this. i don't want to write a memoir. this is the closest you will get because it is not about substance. it is about heartbeat. it's about my pulse, what makes my family come together. what hurts us. what makes us cry and laugh. >> back to the chronology, you where the republican committee chairman what dear? george h.w.: winter of 1973. >> why did you do? -- why did you do it? george h.w.: the president asked me to. >> why did he ask you to do it? george h.w.: because he thought i would be the best guy to be chairman of the party. when he was elected in he called 1972, the whole cabinet together. we want everyone's resignation before close of business. not the kindest approach to our service but we all sent the letters in and ross su

. ♪ >>> in a new op-ed for the "washington post," george conway, the former chair, trevor p potter andase against president trump would be far stronger than the case against john edwards was, entitled trump's claim that he didn't violate campaign finance law is weak and dangerous and they write in part this, the campaign finance violations here are among the most important ever in the history of this nation. given the razor thin win by trump and the timing of the crimes, they very may well have swung a presidential election. begin with the edwards case, the judge ruled that a payment to a candidate's extramarital sexual partner is a campaign contribution if one of the reasons the payment is made is to influence the election. the grievous min mization further corrode our commitment to our age old ideal of being a government of laws and not of men. the bad arguments being floated in trump's defense are emblematic of a deterioration of respect for the rule of law in this country. the three of us have deep political differences, but we are united in the view that our country comes first an