marge schott was the george preston marshall of her day, right? george preston marshall for the redskins, marge schott for the cincinnati reds. but major league baseball did kick marge schott out. and in so doing, the cincinnati reds got their dignity back. cincinnati decided the one thing they would keep of hers was the $1 hot dogs and those they still have, but the marge schott legacy is done. so that's example two. when a league does step in and deal with a problem, that's how it looks like. today, we are living out example number three, which is basketball. the national basketball association dealing with one of their own, i guess, basketball variants of the george preston marshall, marge schott scale of professional sports team ownership. after audio tapes of uncertain origin surfaced this weekend on the tmz sports website, apparently capturing l.a. clippers owner donald sterling making derogatory remarks about black people, apparently telling his mistress that he did not want her to advertise on social media that she spent time with black peo

the washington redskins, preston -- or i guess his name was george preston marshal l, he was a confirmedirst black player until 1962 which for seven or eight years under his reign, he had black players playing for him and he was a racist. in the mid-1980s, he said that i moved it to minnesota because of the good hardworking white people in minnesota and blacks only enjoy going to wrestling matches. >> it's part of american history. >> it's a part of american history. and the fans don't care. they just want to see their team win. if you're a clipper fan, they don't care about -- >> except i think this really does hit at the heart of everyone, whether you're a fan, a player. >> if the -- i'm telling you something, if the clippers win the world championship, the l.a. clipper fans, this is going to be just a little small blip on the screen. >> you think so? >> in the grand scheme of things. >> live pictures right now of the oracle arena there where the clippers are playing. our producer michael flasch said the fans are there. the oakland team -- most of the fans have come out for but l.a. cl

you look at their owner forever, washington redskins, a guy named george preston marshall a noted r raciston the team from the 1930s to 1960s but you have the die-hard black fans. the point of the matter is the way fans operate, if if you win, everything is forgiven. we don't really care. it's not that part of it, not going to be that much of a big stink. >> mark o'meara, let's talk about the legal end of this now, a little bit more. what about the girlfriend, v. stiviano? she's not married to sterling. does this smell like a revenge, act of revenge or extortion or a scam? because they mentioned that, you know, the clippers in their response yesterday, can she be in trouble? >> well, we know that he's given her $2 million or something like that in cars and properties from what the lawsuit says. the wife filed a lawsuit against the girlfriend. the girlfriend says i'm going to get back at you and all of a sudden this tape shows up. i think he was goaded into it. i think she intentionally did it and it came up quickly. i think if she surreptitiously taped somebody without their knowledge it c

you look at george preston marshall who is a noted racist, nfl hall of famer who named the washington. this is something that daniel snyder is still dealing with today. when you have owners that are hush about it. these are gentlemen that own the league, run the league. if they have this outlook -- any champion will tell you championships are built from the front office down. and that includes the ownership. when you look at the los angeles clippers as the team, or los angeles, it's not surprising that they've only won 19 playoff games in 30 years because of the culture they've embraced there in l.a. with the owner there as well. >> one of the things i'm sure you'll be talking about on your show, and let's leave our audience with this idea. right now, the league is struggling with precedent. otis birdsong said we've never heard this before. marge schott, it's worth taking a look at that. >> lamar, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. >> i fan of yours for years. sorry to meet you under this occasion. but we'll keep it going. what do you think about this, the race controversy surr