and then george scholz. reports the reaction there is it seemed to me he was impressed with this development. he was surprised it happened. he said it might have been a historic occasion and whether we are talking about two years or six years it was possible to get things accomplished and he would give him a full and detailed report on the entire conversation. this aspect is often overlooked. but it is a crucial aspect in 1983. . you have bold rhetoric and the condemnation of the soviet union as an evil empire. on the other hand you have readiness for dialogue and readiness to intensify dialogue. the reagan white house was reluctant to pursue this approach. it was very much a top-down approach. scholz was one of the few people who understood reagan and helped him to implement this policy. again, starting in 1983. crucial point,a i think. meetings withkly the ambassador. because the approach "gardening." a quote from his memoirs. eca -- if you see a weed, get it out before becomes a problem. because his prede