human activity has something to do with it. >> reporter: george schultz says he has a plan. we spoke to him about some recent news making headlines and we begin with his take on how best to defeat isis. >> i would say, you have to have military operation, and you have to have a coordinated error and ground approach. you have to have boots on the ground. >> reporter: while working under president obama, historians say shultz helped defuse many heated debates. effective warn policy can't be based on empty threats not then, not now especially when it comes to u.s. negotiations with iran, he says. >> iran is a sponsor of terrorism. iran is developing a ballistic missell capability. and iran is attempting to develop a chemical weapon. >> reporter: oil prices plunged. the -- one thought, the oil collapse was orchestrated by the american government. >> did you ask to open up the oil pumps more? >> we had a nice quiet understanding we'll leave it at that. >> can't expand a little more? >> no. >> reporter: after pressing a bit more. >> we had once a visit from the king to washington.

george schultz, who is 94 had to stand between them. george schultz' wife, mrs. ltz was banged into by these people, which caused her pain and bruising of her leg. they were waiving handcuffs that were actually could physically harm them. this wasn't just people standing up. you look at that video, it was a threat to them physically. >> were they arrested by the authorities? >> there was one policeman in the room who apparently stepped back. now, the capitol hill police tell me it will never happen again and they are sorry and all of that that was not a protest. that was physically threatening two gentlemen and also the former secretary of state, secretary all bright specifically from now on have you to have the authorities in the capitol building. it's not a kind age we live in anymore. we always appreciate you coming on with straight talk. thank you. >> next on the rundown the globe embarrassing jeb bush by reporting on his high school years. but why? the shocking last minute of the super bowl. i will analyze what really happened there. the factor is coming righ

the other circle in the upper right is the reagan administration, to encompass george schultz. and whatever you think of the prospect of continuing the foreign policy of the other bush presidencies, mostly the george w. bush presidency, whatever young of that substantively, and whether that's a good idea for the nation to go back to the george w. bush foreign policy, this is also just a gaffe. this is a running for president screwup. you can't put out this list saying, this is who's going to advise george bush on foreign policy, and you can have jeb bush giving a speech saying, i'm not the same as my father and my brother, i'm my own man. don't conflate me with them, particularly on foreign policy. but you cannot do both of those things on the same day. it's like the scheduler was tasked with rolling things out for jeb bush's campaign, right? and decided, oh, well, you know, wednesday's going to be foreign policy day. so everything on foreign policy, let's truck it out there. everything on foreign policy, including the directly contradictory things, let's put them all out on the

. >> 91 years old george schultz older than that.urrounded by people, pressed up against them. mrs. schultz, george schultz's wife -- leg they banged against it so it caused bruising. >> there was only one capital police officer? >> one police officer. >> that's what you've got to address there. >> they were dangling handcuffs in front of this great man. >> they need more protection in those hearings. >> i think we're going to have that now. but it's one thing for someone to stand up and say -- it's something else to crowd in as you saw, in that picture. that is disgraceful. that is absolutely disgraceful. and i don't think the american people want something like that to happen in a congressional hearing. >> senator mccain, good seeing you. >> thank you, my friend. >> continue speaking your mind. i never quite know where you're coming from but i'm getting a good idea. >> thank you. >> john mccain. again, record e-mail to that last appearance we had. into the thousands. just unheard. even people who normally hate you. which is a lot.

my conversation with george schultz. >>> the federal aviation administration is planning on announcinge new rules today regarding the use of commercial drones. right now all commercial remote controlled aircraft are banned except for some rare exceptions. drones have been a problem in the past few years because of several close calls with commercial passenger airplanes. it is unclear how complicated the new requirements are going to be. >>> and some schools across the country are cracking down on e- cigarettes. most schools combine e- cigarettes with their antitobacco policies. they punish students with detention, a letter home and sometimes require a tobacco education class but now some schools are grouping the devices with bongs and pipes because they can be used for illegal substances like marijuana. so some students in north carolina, new jersey, washington and connecticut are now facing long suspensions, required drugs tests and permanent marks on their school records. >>> restaurants across the country are using a new software to help reduce the number of cancellations and keep c

george schultz one of reagan's top adviser, adviser to george bush and adviser to jeb, there's a limitedber of people in the republican foreign policy world and all of these people had a relationship with the -- and most of them have had a relationship with the last three republican presidents or last two republican presidents. so this is not unusual and not to be -- not a surprise, and you could probably pick out, you could make the argument he's going back to the reagan era, he has baker and schultz and hadley. lou: you are answering questions i'm not asking tonight, karl. the truth is i find it interesting he's taken a different tack than his brother, don't you? >> of course that's what everybody does. time moves on, you are who you are, you have a different -- none of susexactly the same as our parents or siblings. what's interesting over the course of the campaign is how he explains who he is. most people assume, look, he comes from the same family, but nobody assumes they're all exactly alike, and we'll see. but i did want to respond to the point that you made about advisers. look

extremisms, not only the generals i talked about, but big strategic thinkers like henry kissinger and george schultzcongress we don't have a plan or a strategy to defeat islamic extremism. >> i think that is a fair criticism but it is also fair to say try and build a strategy. begin with this. the president wants and congress evidently wants to pass a new authorization for the use of military force. try and write one. who are we fighting and where are we fighting them. this week we learned that isis -- isil we haven't agreed on the term, is now in libya, a failed state we created. and second our basic success militarily is beating down the door of the town of cobain. we work toward that small achievement. and third, we seem to agree politically there isn't any significant ground troops involved. and fourth, that throws us back on the regional powers. the washington post reports this week that some of the training done for the iraqi army is afflicted with such shortages of ammunition and weapons they go through the training exercises saying bang-bang instead of the exercises. that is the mess from wh

george schultz's wife says one of your people bumped into her that's what she says. >> no. >> how doyou know there were a lot of people. >> there we are peace activists we don't hit people and create wars. >> chris jerry has a broken shoulder, is he 9 is years old. you might have picked another target. i know you don't like kissinger and the crew. he is 91 with a bad shoulder. i wouldn't have done it if i were you. i'm glad you are on so we can talk about something substantive. you heard today isis burned jordanian pilot to death. i am sure you heard they massacred and slaughtered people. code pink, what's your group's assessment how would you stop all these murders from isis? >> we think that the u.s. invasion of iraq that john mccain was such a supporter of, actually opened the way to the creation of isis. >> that doesn't really matter now. >> it does matter now, because it shows the history the u.s. military intervention only creates more extremism. we have allies like saudi arabia that are funding the extremists, we have allies like turkey that are letting the extremists cross th

this week end, i got to see former secretary of state george schultz, and madeleine albright.well as mr. kissinger. governors don't just take trips. i have gotten risk assessments about my state and around the country. i'm so worried about the future, not just of our country but our world. we need leadership. >> let's talk specifics. you talk about leadership and you talk about big, bold, fresh ideas. what is your big, bold, fresh idea in syria? >> i think -- i go back to the red line. >> let's not go back. let's go forward. what is your big, bold idea? >> i think aggressively, we need to take the fight to isis and any other radical islamic terrorists around the world. it's not a matter of when they -- not if, i should say, it's when they plan an attack on american soil. we need leadership amongst the united states and our allies. we need people to know we're willing to take appropriate action. >> you don't think 2,000 air strikes is taking it to isis in syria and iraq? >> i think we need to have an aggressive strategy anywhere around the world. i think it's a mistake. >> what

the first segment, but big strategic thinkers former secretaries of state, henry kissinger and george schultz all told congress we don't have a plan. we don't have a strategy to defeat islamic extremism. >> i think that's a fair criticism, but it's also fair to say try and build a strategy. begin with this the president wants and congress evidently wants to pass a new authorization for the use of military force. try and write one. who are we fighting and where are we fighting them? this week we learned that isis isil, we haven't agreed on the term, is now in libya a failed state that our policy created. second, our big success so far, militarily is beating isil away from the border town in syria of kobane. we used 75% of all of our air strikes since september for that one small achievement. third, we seem to be agreed politically and for other reasons if they're tl won't be any significant u.s. ground troops involved. fourth, that throws us back on the regional powers. "the washington post" reports this week that some of the training done for the iraqi army is afflicted with such shortages of

one of them included testimony from henry kissinger, madeleine albright, and george schultz. they discussed issues like iran's nuclear program, the rushing-ukraine conflict, and isis. this hearing is just under two hours. it begins with the disruption by the protests group, code pink that prompted a reaction from john mccain. >> arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. >> can somebody find out where the capitol police is? >> arrest henry kissinger for war crimes. >> in the name of the people of chili. in the name of the people of vietnam. in the name of the people of chili. in the name of the people of vietnam. in the name of the people of east timor. in the name of the people of cambodia. in the name of the people of laos. >> i would like to say to my colleagues and to our distinguished visitors this morning that i have been a member of this committee for many years. i have never seen anything as disgraceful and outrageous

schultz? >> i recall a time when president george h.w. bush deployed forces along with coalition forces to expel saddam hussein from kuwait. that was a clear mission endorsed by votes in the congress as well as in the u.n. when that had happened, it stopped. one of the most dramatic examples of not allowing mission creep to control what you are doing. there was a mission, it was accomplished, and he stopped. he took a lot of heat for that. people said you should have gone to baghdad, you should have done this, should have done that. but i thought it was an important moment. if you take afghanistan, i think after 9/11, it was practically a no-brainer that we should go and try to do something there. and we did. and we succeeded brilliantly. and a mission train. -- and then the mission train. -- and then our mission changed. and we are there forever because of mission creep. i think to a certain extent, we failed to take advice on iraq from some of the generals who said you have to have a greater amount of manpower so that you have some cont

we have had the smartest people in america frank george schultz to general jack keane and others who see a lot on your program and all of them have arctic late that we don't have a strategy to succeed, not to mention the iranian threat which is now widespread, the latest of course in yemen. so we just have to keep pressing to get this president and this admin sphrietion recognize there is a direct threat to the united states of the america. that's what the head of the british mi5 said in a speech a few weeks ago. susan rice says she does not believe this group presence an a threat to the united states. >> they he pose a direct threat to the united states. it's only logic these people who are europeans. all they have to do is go home and get on an airplane to document united states of america. senator, thank you so much. we'll see you next time. martha: three people are a whole lot richer this morning. confirmed winning pouring ball particular nets three states. is yours one of them? gregg: didn't buy one. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed

whose members include ex-shell ceo john hofmeister, alan green span former secretary of state george schultz, former governor and director of the department of homeland security, tom ridge former assistant -- former secretary of the navy john laymen and other associated washington heavyweights. ann's words carry weight as well as knowledge, in other words. and it's my great pleasure to introduce you and to present you, ann coran. >> i'm glad to be here. thank you for argue niezing this event. i'm going to talk about where we were, where we are and where we're headed and what kind of black swans we need to consider as we think about the oil market and more importantly the impact of oil strategic importance on the global economy and on gio politics global security at large. we may think oil prices are how right now, but if we go back to 2001, if we think about what prices looked like before september 11th they were under $30. so they're not really that low right now. they're just low in relation to $147 barrel and $100 oil that we've gotten used to. and it's very important when we think about

we had schlesinger, we had george schultz, madeleine albright. and they reminisced about what our capabilities were at that time, and what is expected, and even read the charge that president reagan had made at one time and determined what a defense budget should be. the reason i'm saying this is i look and i agree with senator reed who talked about the inadequacy in meeting the threats. i read that director clapper, when he says looking back over my now more than half a century in intelligence, i've not experienced a time when we've been beset by more crisis and threats around the globe than we are right now. in light of the fact that we have the force structure problems that i'm very proud of all of our chiefs. the general has been before us, and all of the rest of them, talking about how significant this is and it's something that's unprecedented. the reason i bring this up, we've got a quality group here, mr. chairman. and i just think after this is over you should reconvene and get into this thing as to the current threat that's out there an

we had george schultz and kisen jer, could not find the threats that we're faced with today. that's the mismatch that they're talking about with the things all over the world that are taking place right now. do you agree what that? let me restate that. in the years that you've had such a variety of experience do you ever remember a time like this? >> i think we are in a time where the number and se varyverity is something i've not seen. >> we know that we have a really serious problem with isis, with isil. we've been talking about the fact that they're building a malitia and we now have seen the brutality and what they're capable of. i just wonder sometimes if we -- i would like to have a stronger response from the president when the disaster took place yesterday. but do you -- i fail to see a strategy in terms of dealing with isis. with that force that's over there. do you see a strategy? where will you be on this? >> thank you. i can describe what i believe to be the strategy. and to get -- just to revert to what you said at the beginning. we used to -- when i started my ca

we had slesen jer, we had george schultz, madeleine all bright.t our capabilities were at that time, and what is expected and even read the charge that president reagan had made at one time and determined what a defense budget should be. the reason i'm saying this is i look and i agree with senator reid who talked about the inadequacy in meeting the threats. i read that director clapper, when he says looking back over my now more than half a century in intelligence, i've not experienced a time when we've been beset by more crisis and threats around the globe than we are right now. in light of the fact that we have the force structure problems that i'm very proud of all of our chiefs. the general has been before us, and all of the rest of them, talking about how significant this is and it's something that's unprecedented. the reason i bring this up we've got a quality group here, mr. chairman. and i just think after this is over you should reconvene and get into this thing as to the current threat that's out there and the inadequacy that we're faci

we had george schultz, madeleine albright. and they reminisced about what our capabilities were at that time, and what is expected, and even read the charge that president reagan had made at one time in determining what a defense budget should be. the reason i'm saying this is i look and i agree with senator reid who talked about the inadequacy in meeting the threats. i read that director clapper when he says looking back over my now more than half a century in intelligence, i've not experienced a time when we've been beset by more crisis and threats around the globe than we are right now. that, in light of the fact that we have the force structure problems that i'm very proud of all of our chiefs. the general has been before us and all of the rest of them, talking about how significant this is and it's something that's unprecedented. the reason i bring this up we've got a quality group here, mr. chairman. and i just think after this is over, you should reconvene and get into this thing as to the current threat that's out ther

but the most important thing that we are seeing and i've heard that from henry kissinger, from george schultzreat. we have as to make sure they are not able to have their own state to where they have something as to rally behind and we can disrupt that. but, basically, we have people in that area. the saudis have to engage. the turks have to engage. and that is in their neighborhood on their borders. the jordanians i think have risen up now. you will see them take aggressive action. we will support that every way we possibly can. >> all right. joining us via skype from jordan is jordanian political analyst rhonda habib. what is the reaction in jordan especially given the news there? >> the devastation and the revenge started, of course immediately after the discovery of the video. i mean you have to understand that among those being burned alive has a point for everybody. but definitely in the muslim faith this is one of the worst things that can happen because cremation of the body is not allowed in the muslim religion let alone someone that is survived. let alone the pilot that was killed o

certainly have better ways than sort of making a piece of dumb, in my mind theater against, you know george schultzalbright henry kissinger sitting there. i think that there are ways to express and study one's feeling about kissinger's decisions. i do not think he was a warmonger, but even if i did i would hope i would find a better way to try to convince others of that than doing that i think not very useful bit of theater. and i did, you know, i did admire and read the testimony of henry kissinger. and if you're looking for books to read and you want to understand kissinger where he's really coming from read "world order." it's a great book. you may say well, he's a warmonger. no be, here's a structure of thought that leads to his sense of what makes for a stable good order, and you can disagree with it, but then push back intellectually instead of this thing that i found kind of disturbing. >> host: david is calling in from st. thomas, virgin islands. david, you're on with walter isaacson. >> caller: mr. isaacson, i am a new fan since i saw you on booktv the other day. if you'll indulge me for a

defense intelligence agency lieutenant general michael flynn, head of centcom, henry kissinger, george schultz serious questions about what is going on there. we'll have three key paylayers in that part of the world. and a hot button issue the debate over common core. we'll have a debate between greg abbott, the governor of texas where they say it's banned and bill bennett education secretary under ronald reagan who is in favor of common core. so that will be interesting. >>ly watch that. that sounds interesting. thank you. >> thank you, chris. >>> coming up isis beheads another hostage. they're not done yet. they have a message for the terrorists. >> next. >>> and it's a hot debate now that pot is legal in some state states. should people be allowed to use welfare for weed? that outrage ahead. when heartburn comes creeping up on you... fight back with relief so smooth... ...it's fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue ...and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum, tum tum tum...♪ smoothies! only from tums. two hikers that fell 500 feet down mount hood.

we had less schlesinger, george schultz, madam albright.hey reminisced over what our abilities were, capabilities at it and what is expected and even read the charge that president reagan had made at one time in determining what a defense budget should be and the reason i'm saying this is i look and i agree with senator reed who talked about the inadequacy in meeting the threats. i agree that director clapper when he says looking back over my more than half century in intelligence i've not experienced a time when we have been beset by more crises and threats around the globe than we are right now that and in light of the fact that we also have the forestructure problems that i'm very proud of all of our chiefs. general odierno has been before us and all the rest of them talking about how significant this is and it's unprecedented. the reason i bring this up, we got a quality group here, i say mr. chairman, and i just think that after this is over, you should reconvene and get into this thing as to the current threat that's out there and the

george w. bush unpatriotic. and debbie wasserman-schultz -- but i have you here.t to ask you, back when general petraeus was testifying before congress on the iraq war and the surge and defending it. and movon.org had taken out an ad calling him general petraeus. and you were upset about that. you had the following exchange. i want to ask you whether it still stands. >> the reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief. >> it comes on the same day as the moveon.org ad in the "new york times" accusing general petraeus of being a traitor, this is a despicable attack. hillary clinton should disown and condemn moveon.org. >> you actually said these times call for statesmanship not politicians spewing political venom. >> you know, what kind of civility is that? >> so i ask you the same thing what kind of civility is that? >> i think that's perfectly civil. i think it's a perfectly reasonable opinion. but the president and his comments if we look at his rhetoric has not displayed the kind of love of america, the kind of love of americ

george w. bush unpatriotic. and debbie wasserman-schultz -- but i have you here.ask you, back when general petraeus was testifying before congress on the iraq war and the surge and defending it. and movon.org had taken out an ad calling him general petraeus. and you were upset about that. you had the following exchange. i want to ask you whether it still stands. >> the reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief. >> it comes on the same day as the moveon.org ad in the "new york times" accusing general petraeus of being a traitor, this is a despicable attack. hillary clinton should disown and condemn moveon.org. >> you actually said these times call for statesmanship not politicians spewing political venom. >> you know, what kind of civility is that? >> so i ask you the same thing what kind of civility is that? >> i think that's perfectly civil. i think it's a perfectly reasonable opinion. but the president and his comments if we look at his rhetoric has not displayed the kind of love of america, the kind of love of america the

chairman of the democratic national committee debbie wasserman-schultz was tougher saying she opposed many of the policies of president george w. bush but never questioned his patriotism. not pleased with those comments as you can imagine. >> all right. joining me now nationally syndicated talk show host mark levine is back with us. mark, good to see you, sir. i want to put up on the screen mark, the comments made by rudy giuliani. i just outlined the differences. he said i do not believe and i know this is a horrible thing to have to say, but i do not believe this president loves america. and he went onto explain what he meant about the apology tour not believing in american exceptionalism and talking about it the way say ronald reagan or even bill clinton used to talking about his background with frank marshal davis and bill ayers and bernadine dohrn denying american exceptionalism. what is your reaction to that? >> well, rudy's exactly right. i've said this many years on my radio program. when somebody says they want to fundamentally transform america, then you must not love america. it's like saying i'm going to fundamen

schultz, who said i agree with him on one thing. it was a horrible thing to say. >> thank you, jon. we'll have more sunday on "this week." >>> all right, george to the latest on the deadly road rage incident in las vegas that left a mother of four dead. and arrest was made thursday after a tense standoff with police. authorities are looking for a second suspect. kendis gibson has the very latest. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: a one-week manhunt coming to a fraptic end in this las vegas neighborhood thursday. cameras rolling at 49-year-old bob meyers learns police have surrounded the alleged killer. >> are you all happy. you made my wife look like an animal and my son. there's the animal a block away! are you happy? >> reporter: dozens of officers armed to the teeth surrounding erich nowsch. >> please! turn your [ bleep ] phone off. >> reporter: after a tens two-hour standoff police arresting nowsch, just 19 years old, on suspicion of murder, shirt lest and in handcuffs. >> nowsch was taken into custody. the investigation is ongoing. >> reporter: naush has yet to be formally charged. initially described as random road range turned deadly we know tam