today we are joined by father george e schultz sj. with him, we will discuss the catholic priesthood today, who is answering the call to priesthood, how is the vocation discerned and developed, what training and education does a priest get, how is priestly life lived out in the 21st century. after this brief break, please join us as we learn from father schultz about the catholic priesthood today. >>> hello. welcome back to mosaic. with me is father george e schultz sj. sj stands for society of jesus. father schultz, i briefly know your background. it's a long one. you have a masters degree, phd, a b.a. before that. can you tell us where? >> i studied industrial revelations in cornell university in new york although i am from california. the masters in business administration was uc berkley. i was a full time student there. in usc, i studied social ethics at the university of california. that's my phd. >> and you authored a book. >> yes. >> you are a native of california. >> yes. i grew up in mountain view on the peninsula, native to

with me is father george e schultz sj. sj societies for society of jesus. i briefly know your background. you have a masters degree, a phd. you have a b.a. before that. can you tell us where you got these? >> yes. i studied industrial relations at cornell university in new york although i am from california. the masters in business administration was uc berkley. i was a full time student there. usc, i studied social ethics at the university of southern california. that's my phd. >> you have authorized a book. >> yes, about strangers in the foreign land, authorizing of catholic latinos in the united states. >> you are a native of california. >> i grew up in mount view, went to public views in mountain view, st. joseph parish, my parish, st. francis high school. both my parents were from the santa clara valley. my mother was a farm worker. her father was a foreman on a ranch. my father's family had cherry and apricot orchards. >> are you from a big family? >> my mother and father were from large families but they could only have two. my mother called my broth

that's not just me as a democrat saying that, that's people like george schultz who helped negotiatehe end of the cold war saying that. what i don't understand is why the president isn't bringing in these people like sam nunn, george schultz, bill perry and saying let's have a strategy. he has offered no strategy. just tweeting is not a strategy when the safety of the united states is concerned. >> let me go to healthcare. you are, as you said, a democrat in congress. we are seeing the congress is getting ready to come back from the fourth of july break. we're hearing on one level that the senate has a secret strategy now to try to come and -- in my terms not yours -- bum rush something through, others are saying that they've gotten even more people in the senate that are saying they are not going to support this, they are not going to vote for the senate plan on healthcare. how do you read it? what's going to happen? what's your prediction? >> well, i don't think the votes are going to be there. when the cbo came out and said 22 million people would lose their healthcare coverage wi

people the respect of the public and i'm talking about people like secretaries of state and baker, george schultz and pinetta, and arious leaders and business leaders to get together. i'm sure that they're all sidelines the distraught at what they see happening to the country. weaker, try is getting when america's divided, american i'm sureer country and vladamir putin knows it, so i ould like these people to get together and decide that they are going to bolster the center.al there really is a center in the united states. there are several groups, which naming, no labels, trying to ich are come up withenter, policies both democrats and epublicans could agree to and advance them. eds, get on rite op television about them. colin u know, you had and l and bill gates advocating and rice we would cs policy, get somewhere. the country is very divided, but being ter is just not helped by people who have the power to help it. to hear from centrists, if you define a centrists, 202-748-8000. 202-748-8001. themselves dentify as centrist,is there a platform centrist? do you have to believe certain hings to

was george schultz against this? where was weinberger? you need to bear in mind that howard baker had fairly recently become cheese -- chief of staff. he brought with him his longtime press aide. robinson's first ,tep on coming back from berlin tony dolan was sold on the idea of building a speech around tearing down the wall -- immediately we went to see tommy griscam, and he said it might work. we drafted it and then, this is a terrible admission but the record is what it is. the president was also going to rome and to the venice economic summit. there was a lot of speeches. the whole speechwriting staff worked fast to finish a whole bundle of speeches. tony dolan, the chief speechwriter waited until a friday afternoon, may 16 or 15th, until he heard the helicopter descending to the south lawn. he went to the west wing and said to the staff secretary who was also new, the president has a leg wad of speeches -- a big wad of speeches. look it over at camp david. and he said that make sense. as the helicopter took off, the president had my

george schultz is saying, please, do not do it. casey is saying, absolutely we should. bush is saying, i am not too worried a messy problems -- worried the messy, something to other people. the enterprise, not the starship, i am talking about the intermediaries, the go-betweens were they are called cutouts, middlemen. int happens is starting 1983, but even more after the congressional cut off in october 1984, kc goes to north. -- casey goes to north. he tells them, you have got to set up a duplicate of what we have been doing with cia personnel to supply the contra. do it through the nfc with nongovernment personnel. withan't -- nsc nongovernmental personnel. use contractors. kudos he use quest -- who does he use? retired military and cia officials. they know what they are doing. secord, as, richard high-ranking air force general has been stationed as the senior air force official for the united states and does military litigation in iran when iran was toed by the shock and he had leave under a cloud -- i will not get to reasons -- but he was working as a private arms d

and the next morning, jim baker and george schultz and all his cabinet guys come in and say, you know, any questions from the briefing book, he said, well, boys, i'm really sorry, but the sound of music was on last night. well, he didn't -- he didn't read the briefing book. but he had already developed skills with maggie thatcher and having his back against trudeau, later on the other leaders and not at this kind of crisis either and then he gradually learned it. and by the time he met with gorbachev in '84, he was as skilled a negotiator as there was. >> it takes the president taking time to develop the relationship. for him, foreign policy was as much about personal policy as it was the diplomatic stuff he had to do. so president reagan, quite frankly all of the presidents, even though, you know, people said that barack obama didn't have a good relationship with members on the hill, he had a good relationship with our allies, certainly in nato and elsewhere. that is not something that seems to be of importance to this president to develop those relationships, except for the ones tha

george schultz on this very able secretary of state you said you have to realize, this is a guy who's a lot of fun and he was a lot of fun and that's part of conservatism. one is the central core of conservatism. well, i guess you learn a new word every day, don't you ? speaking of fun, back in the 60s, it was at the height of the vietnam war, reagan was out talking with eight and he was governor and he was confronted by a rather smelly, dirty disheveled hippie. maybe it was clinton, i don't know. >> the hippie was carrying a sign the sign says make love not war. reagan looks at theside, looks at the hippie, turns to his aid and says the looks of him i don't think he could do either . >> now were going to turn to build. [applause] >> well. i have 1 million things to say about this book but you'll be relieved to hear that i'm not going to say any of them. the moderators job is to be moderate. that is to say. self restrained. and so i'm going to turn directly to first, to jonah and then to ruy teixeira. and then i'm going to give henry a chance which i think he will be champing at the b