arsenal, when it should be reduced, sharply reduced -- i mean, even people like henry kissinger, george shultznd so on, are calling for elimination of nuclear weapons. to escalate and modernize at this point is just really criminal, in my opinion. amy: world-renowned political dissident, author, noam chomsky. will continue our conversation with him and the minute talking about president obama's legacy, cuba, the death of michael ratner, coming up. ♪ [music break] amy: "o que sera" performed by nara leao. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we continue our conversation with world-renowned political dissident, linguist, and author, noam chomsky, institute professor emeritus at m.i.t.. his latest book "who rules the , world?" i asked him for his assessment of the obama administration. >> it's about what i thought before he -- before the 2008 primaries when i wrote about him just based on the information in his web page. i didn't expect anything. i expected mostly rhetoric and , you know, nice rhetoric, good speaker and so on, but nothing much in th