george shultz who is 97 years old. [applause] and is one of my great mentors. i will tell you a little story. he had a birthday party purge henry kissinger who turned 94 and the two of them did 20 minutes walk round the world, no notes. i don't know perthshire hoping there was something in the water at the state department. >> as i remember george shultz said something, to be 94 again. >> from his point of view church house was still a. >> when you look back in your career which was extraordinary but would you say you are most proud of having done? >> with the caveat that history takes a long time to judge i think i'm most grateful that we stood up for their right for people to -- i know there were a lot of criticism and a lot of it is probably justified about freedom agenda and declaring one of america's most important services was to work hard so that no one would live in tyranny. i think america is at its best and its highest calling when it leads both from power and principle. we stand for the proposition that the right to be enjoyed are indeed universal an

colin powell, george shultz. managed to bring the state department along, that is not happening now. >> that was earlier on when i believe trump was -- had just announced and they were worried that he was going to be bad. i thought really? back theyg how far platform.i-woman reproductive rights, equal pay. prize-winningser cartoonist. i don't remember who did the interview but he was interviewed and said something like he never goes to any washington dinners without his wife >. i thought this is a gift. he doesn't have anybody talking about women's reproductive choices. but you won't go to dinner where a woman fully closed is at the same table. tonight on c-span's q&a >, -- opening of the second the general assembly. focusing his speech

george shultz who is 97 years old. [applause] and is one of my great mentors. i will tell you a little story. he had a birthday party purge henry kissinger who turned 94 and the two of them did 20 minutes walk round the world, no notes. i don't know perthshire hoping there was something in the water at the state department. >> as i remember george shultz said something, to be 94 again. >> from his point of view church house was still a. >> when you look back in your career which was extraordinary but would you say you are most proud of having done? >> with the caveat that history takes a long time to judge i think i'm most grateful that we stood up for their right for people to -- i know there were a lot of criticism and a lot of it is probably justified about freedom agenda and declaring one of america's most important services was to work hard so that no one would live in tyranny. i think america is at its best and its highest calling when it leads both from power and principle. we stand for the proposition that the right to be enjoyed are indeed universal an

george shultz who is 97 years old. [applause] and is one of my great mentors. i will tell you a little story. he had a birthday party purge henry kissinger who turned 94 and the two of them did 20 minutes walk round the world, no notes. i don't know perthshire hoping there was something in the water at the state department. >> as i remember george shultz said something

the dean of the secretary is of state is george shultz who is 97 years old. [applause] he is still one of my great mentors. i will tell you a little story i think you will appreciate it. he had a birthday party not too long for henry kissinger, turns 94. the two of them did 20 minutes walk around the world, no notes, completely coherent. i'm sure it was something in the water at the state department. it is amazing people.wa >> i remember, i heard from that party, george shultz said something, ah to be 94 again. half laugh. >> said from his point of view henry was still a promising young man. >> as you look back on your career which was extraordinary, what would you say you're most proud of having done?in your >> well, with the caveat history takes a long time to judge, i think i'm most grateful for that we stood up for the right of people to live in freedom. i know that there were a lot of cynics about and a lot of criticism, some of it totally justified about the freedom agenda and declaring that america's one of america's most important purposes was to, to

defend their position -- i would refer you to an article written by former secretary of state george shultz who clearly states that we have an obligation under the budapest memorandum to provide weapons for ukraine. that it is in our interest in terms of how we deal with russia as well. i will be happy to send it to you if you would like. ms. thoburn: any responses? dr. menon: an appeal to an authority is not an argument. i don't care what they said. read the memorandum. any reading of it puts to rest the proposition that it requires us to arm ukraine. that is your weekend assignment. anyone who would make that say the russians violated the agreement is one thing but to say there is anything in the text for arming ukraine is preposterous. >> our ambassadors have told us there is no legal obligation, it is a moral obligation in their view. ms. thoburn: ambassadors? >> it is a moral obligation. russians that they themselves signed up for, that they draft the helsinki act and now they are the biggest lawbreakers in the world. we have to take that as our starting point. it is alsoherbst: the ge

i would just refer you to an article written by former secretary of state george shultz and former defense secretary perry who clearly states that we have an obligation under the -- memorandum to provide weapons for ukraine and that it is in our interest in terms of how we deal with russia as well. i'll be happy to send it to you, if you'd like. >> any responses? >> yes. [laughter] an appeal to authority is not an argument. you know, with all due respect, i don't care what they said. read the budapest memorandum. any reading of it, i think, puts to rest the proposition that it requires us to arm ukraine. again, your weekend assignment, read the budapest memorandum and see if anyone in his right mind would really make the argument that we are obligated not just to defend ukraine, but to provide ukraine with arms? to say that the russians violated the agreement is one thing, but saying there's anything in the text that requires us to arm ukraine is just preposterous. >> our ambassadors have told us there's no actual legal obligation, it's merely a moral obligation, in their view. >> ambassad