birthday, february 22, 1856, which almost splits up when one of the editors, an important man named george snyder, who edits one over the most important papers in chicago, the german language newspaper. biggest german language newspaper in the united states and the proposes a planning against the know nothings, and they're nativists in the meeting, other editor, and the whole thing thens to disintegrate, and snyder says, let lincoln decide. and lincoln says, gentlemen, the answer is in the declaration of independence. and you can't found a new party on any other principle. all men are created equal. so that settles it. they say -- lincoln says, it's all right. and they found the illinois republican party. without that it would november have existed. so -- it would not have existed. so newspaper editors and newspapers were very much intrinsic to the politic of the day. they were political players. >> host: just one of the personal things about lincoln, much is discussed recently about the death of willy, the wonderful george saunders novel, but we sometimes forget it was eddie two died during this