this is exactly the question that sub—postmaster staffer george thomson. by the post office. what did george thomson though during that period and why didn't the national federation of sub—postmaster is do more? his answer is that the horizon was robust and it is still robust. not even the bosses of fujitsu, the former chief executives who appeared here a few days ago, use that defence and defended the horizon it system. he also had criticism of sir alan bates, thejustice postmasters alliance and the media saying they painted the wrong picture of horizon it system, saying it wasn't fit for purpose, something he said it was factually incorrect and it had damaged the brand and post offices around the uk. we did say that the post office was wrong not to tell him about bugs in the system, to not talk about the fact that remote access was possible in these branch accounts and he was furious about what he called shenanigans at the post office. but we have also heard today that he called the claims that sir alan bates was making in 2012 rubbish in an e—mail to pa

allison wark james burr and george thomson students at marion in quincy, illinois crossed the missouri in 1841 to help that should be crossing the mississippi. so for those geographers who very keen to cross mississippi in 1841 to help in slaves escape, they would betray the court and sent to prison. that stopped neither the flow of escapees out of the section of missouri nor the arrival of emissaries from illinois. by the end of the decade, it destroyed missouri and threw up her in despair. subversive as she them was her words. thick as and a dead horse. in september 1844, local officials were nonplused by the escape from lexington of louis hayden, the wife, his wife and their son calvin fairbank and william webster of maine, both teachers at a local school were arrested, tried and sent to the state penitentiary for organizing the escape of the family. webster was soon freed because. there was no salary. webster was soon freed because there was no accommodation for women in the state prison. the haden's moved to where they became fixtures in the local struggle against of the 1850 fugi

why didn't that seem to happen here as victims are insisting upon, what does george thomson think?em here is the post office didn't give the exact truth to him when it came to remote access, but he still is defending the horizon system overall. you can imagine the reaction from some of the victims here, the former sub—postmasters. sue palmer who is in the room right now, she said this adds insult to injury. now, she said this adds insult to in'u . . ~' ,, , now, she said this adds insult to in'u . . , . now, she said this adds insult to in'u . . ,, , . ., . injury. thank you very much for that u date. injury. thank you very much for that update. breaking _ injury. thank you very much for that update. breaking news _ injury. thank you very much for that update. breaking news we - injury. thank you very much for that update. breaking news we brought. injury. thank you very much for that i update. breaking news we brought you a few moments ago and the chief constable of northamptonshire police has been dismissed for gross mishandling —— gross misconduct after hearing found he lied to

george thomson who ran the national federation of subpostmasters, which represents the vast majoritys, apologies for that. as i said, george _ been today. yes, apologies for that. as i said, george thompson - been today. yes, apologies for that. | as i said, george thompson stepped down 1005 of these sub—postmasters had already been prosecuted over the faulty horizon it data. when asked why he did not do more to help members and what he knew, he said that the horizon it system was and still is robust. then, that is something not even the former bosses of fujitsu have told the inquiry, nor former post office executives. and yet he maintained that throughout, he said there was only a tiny percentage of sub—postmasters who had been prosecuted compared to the number who had been using horizon over 25 years. he did criticize the post office for not telling him about the bugs, not telling him about the bugs, not telling him about remote access. he said he was furious over what he called the post office's shenanigans. but he also criticized sir alan bates and the justice for sub—postmasters