and my novel is not about george tiller. but it's about somebody a little bit like him in that tradition. >> yeah. >> that's just the way it is historically. but it is interesting that these men will -- they have literally given up their lives to work with planned parenthood, to basically help women. they're quite right. something about men. they're always there. they're always at the center. what can we do about it? and the assassins are men, almost -- there may have been one woman assassined. mostly all men. that's the active sex, i guess. >> just men always screwing things up. >> you just got to get in there. >> you finished this, i'm asking. i want to take the next step. you finished this when, when trump was elected? >> long before. >> the reason i ask that question, what do you makest fact, not that it just, you know, it lands in this trumpian moment. >> i know. we talked about that earlier wlachlt do you make of the fact that we had so many issues with trump and women during this campaign. >> i know. it's so true. wel