i don't think even george vi knew he was dying - george vi knew he was dying of cancer, — george vi knewing of cancer, it— george vi knew he was dying of cancer, it certainly came as a shock to his _ cancer, it certainly came as a shock to his daughter, she was quickly summoned back from overseas. so there _ summoned back from overseas. so there is_ summoned back from overseas. so there is a _ summoned back from overseas. so there is a difference. but i do think— there is a difference. but i do think they— there is a difference. but i do think they have the really clever by telling _ think they have the really clever by telling us _ think they have the really clever by telling us they're showing a lot, they've — telling us they're showing a lot, they've told us catherine and charles — they've told us catherine and charles have cancer, but what's the statistic? _ charles have cancer, but what's the statistic? one in three, winning 20 of us _ statistic? one in three, winning 20 of us how? — statistic? one in three, winning 20 of us now? one in two of us will at some _ of us now? one in two

that was george vi some 25 years earlier, of course.eflections differ a little, because carter, subsequent to this coming out in the press -- you ask if it was a big deal at the time, it was not a big deal at the time. it did not emerge until several years later when the queen mother told the story and it started to feature in the british media. then there was a bit of fuss about it. but carter addresses it in one of his biographical books and talks a little about how he got on with the queen and what they discussed, but also that he bid farewell to the queen mother and it was not as described. and no offense of course was intended. he was mortified that it should come out quite like that. but i think it added to my impression that the royals were rather wary of carter, did not quite know how to handle him exactly. he was probably the person who was least like the -- i mean, nobody is like the royal family, who has inherited all this wealth, i suppose. but coming from his rural background, not being -- not having these connections with

because themes in my because one of the themes in my book that george vi had book is that george vi hadt was concealed from and concealed from from him and concealed from everybody just stop you that. >> let me just stop you on that. concealed from yes. what concealed from him? yes. what was told? was he told? >> well, he was told that he had this illness, which was advanced bronchitis. though bronchitis. and even though he had have removed. had to have his lung removed. yes, he still being yes, he was still being told there nothing the there was nothing seriously the matter him. matter with him. >> and was it true to say that he was operated on within buckingham palace because they obviously to obviously didn't want news to get he was seriously get out that he was seriously ill? there was a makeshift >> yes, there was a makeshift operating theatre constructed, >> yes, there was a makeshift operhe's] theatre constructed, >> yes, there was a makeshift operhe's veryatre constructed, >> yes, there was a makeshift operhe's very stoic onstructed, >> yes, there was a makeshift operhe's very s

and he met george vi , i believe so, yes.ut he was. yeah the most extraordinary thing about him, i think, is every animal or insect that crawls on the surface of the earth was born after him, including us. it's remarkable when you think of it like that. it's amazing. and he's approaching his third century. when you think of it like that, it's just crazy . how's when you think of it like that, it's just crazy. how's his temperament? he's lovely. actually. i mean, you can see that he loves his food. he's got a very sharp bite, but he wouldn't bite out of aggression. right? he just loves his grub . right? he just loves his grub. hence the gloves. hence the gloves. yeah, but also we like to feed carrots. we were recommended to feed very good vitamin a. you don't want the whole carrot going down. they're pretty indigestible. so we can with gloves we can be bolder because we don't mind being bitten and give him small bites instead of, you know, half a carrot at a time. >> so he's originally from the seychelles, is that right? >> ye

and the island of malta got the george cross from george vi because of the three year siege where theytarved into submission by the germans. and the king said, and actually, when i was in malta a few weeks ago, they're very proud of that. george cross, very proud of it. and there's a little museum and the note from the king is there. yeah, but but the point we're making bears making is knife crime. so much of it, it seems to happen so often. i can remember talking to the chief constable of, liverpool many years ago, and i was on the daily telegraph and he had those, scanner scanners , which those, scanner scanners, which you have at an airport outside some schools and nightclubs , some schools and nightclubs, because knife crime is becoming such a problem. well, it is there's quite a few schools now in london that have, scanning machines , metal detectors machines, metal detectors outside of schools. >> what have we done ? right. >> what have we done? right. still to come this morning, only a 10th of schools have banned mobile phones despite government pressure. but should parents back

uh.huh, followed the eighth, followed by edward the eighth, who abdicated, followed by george her george vie. >> you're the person you want on a pub quiz, don't you ? about a pub quiz, don't you? about royal affairs? a pub quiz, don't you? about roy.the fairs? a pub quiz, don't you? about roy.the six 5? a pub quiz, don't you? about roy.the six wives henry the >> the six wives of henry the eighth. must know them. eighth. you must know them. divorced. died. divorced. >> beheaded . survived. >> beheaded. survived. >> beheaded. survived. >> so it was catherine of aragon. anne boleyn , jane aragon. anne boleyn, jane seymour, anne of cleves, who was the really ugly one, who he'd only seen in a portrait. yeah. she and then it was catherine howard who was who was beheaded. and then catherine parr survived him. >> cameron, do you feel educated this morning? you didn't leave school that long ago. was it a bit more interesting at school than i do? you don't do rote learning anymore . learning anymore. >> we certainly did. the tudors . >> we certainly did. the tudors. i don't think we did, those those