along with george w. bush and laura bush, also hillary clinton. air force one is scheduled to arrive in about an hour and now and to be a fly on the wall of that flight. cnn jake tapper host of "the lead" put together this fascinating piece about what can happen when american presidents are thrown together by history. >> the world is quickly preparing for what may be the largest gathering of heads of state since winston churchill's funeral in 1965. representing the u.s. alone, will be presidents barack obama, george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter. comprising one of the most prestigious frequent flier clubs in the world. today air force one departed for south africa, where more than 90 world leaders are planning to attend nelson mandela's mamande. president george h.w. bush, who has been in poor health for some time, will not be making the trip. together, they're set for an almost 20-hour flight. even though there's only one bed onboard. >> air force one is a very intimate setting. so, that's the place where you can have quieter conversatio

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now, also on air force one for the trip to south africa former president george w. bush, his wife, laura, and former secretary of state hillary clinton. former presidents jimmy carter and bill clinton will also be attending the memorial but they are traveling separately. the only living president not going to the mandela funeral is george h.w. bush. he's 89 and is no longer able to travel long distances. >>> in south africa people are still gathering outside of nelson mandela's house in johannesburg. this is video shot earlier this morning. tomorrow, a public memorial service will be held in a soccer stadium that seats 95,000 people. then nelson mandela's body will lie in state in a government building in pretoria from wednesday through friday and then on sunday, nelson mandela will be buried in the remote village that he grew up in. >>> 7:16. today, south africa's

and bill clinton and tony blair and george w. bush and tony blair which hurt his image in great britain. you remember he was thought of as the lap dog of the -- the poodle they called him in the newspaper for the american president. but he was supportive of clinton and bush. i think that's what it is. the personalities so often is what makes a difference. not the policy advice. presidents want to have almost like a buddy system. it they get somebody they can count on to support them or understand what they're doing. it's very important. >> the tapping their cell phone. >> tapping their cell phones. it's not the happy camper these days because the phone has been tapped. and i think, you know, president obama said i didn't know. how could he not have known. i find hard believe myself. but the tapping i'm sure we do that. and they do it to us. they try to find out what we're doing. i remember when i covered the white house one of the senior officials. when we're talking, don't stand too close to the windows. because the soviet embas

this president having issues, george w. ad them was there a moment where approval ratings all that have where george bush was not known to be reflective, nevertheless learned something in his second term and took command of the office in a different way, there was a moment where that was true? >> i think he does. in fact the irony is you get to be a better president in your second term by that point the problems have accumulated, baggage so grown that your ability to transcend that is even more limited. i think by the time he looks at iraq in the face, end of 2006 and 2007 he realizes this war has gone badly, hasn't gone the way he wants. he throws away three years of policy to go a different direction against all the paparazzi pew already with us -- of the popular wisdom. he's send more troops try to solve the situation. very daring when it was bold decisions the president has made in modern times. i think a function of his comfort is growing confidence after six years despite all of the travails and problems and mistakes.

whether it's george w.of himself in the shower or chris christie anticipating president obama's help after hurricane sandy. george bush is showing are more intra specs than the republican party is. they need more pope francis and a little less phil robertson. >> is it possible that we could see republicans next year run to go this former president bush saying, hey, come help me out some they want to ride his coattails like you mentioned that a lot of people want to bring out bill clinton when it's time to raise money or build the campaign. >> obviously president obama has started his 7th and 8th year a little earlier than normal. do republicans need a face to the republican party? jason might position that is a great idea. but i would contend that our party does need george bush to articulate eight years of the white house, what we did good. and we'll be willing to take that criticism from jason and the left side of their party buff i've been around the country talking to people. you can't have eight years

how did george w.con of the right to a dirty word? >> right. that's what's so fascinating here. this comes at a time when republicans are very happy to know that george w. bush's approval ratings, like all presidents after they leave office, have gone up. and you know, a few weeks ago we heard a lot of conservatives say george w. bush has a better approval rating than barack obama, even, right? and yet the -- it's conservatives and republicans who are invoking him as, you know, the best dig they can get in at obama is comparing him to george w. bush. it does show how far the republican party has drifted in various directions, mind you. not in one direction. but away from the bush years. and they are still trying to distance themselves from that. >> and i mean, brian, it's fascinating. we have had mission accomplished. we have had things being called obama's katrina. it literally does feel like -- insinuating things -- his iraq. are we literally going to have the right replay the entirety of the bush pr

that's the same number george w. bush was in, december of 200200. 41%. bill clinton at the same time was at 56% job approval. ronald regan in 1985 was at 63%. i'm sure when the president sees that he's in the same boat right now as george w. bush was five years in, he's not very happy about it. >> not a reassuring place to be, especially because it's easy to plunge as a politician. easy to plunge in popularity and jop approval. it's difficult to climb out of the hole. george w. bush never got out of his hole. after he went under 50%, he never got back. i'm not saying that will be the same with president obama. we'll see. it's very difficult. once you have lost trust. once the american people indicate they don't trust you, and polls indicate more americans don't trust president obama than trust him, which is a staggering number that happened about a month ago, and also the plunging of numbers of people thinking he's looking out for their economic interest, i think it went down 20 points from 26% over the republicans now to just 6% over the republicans. di

in addition, president obama, george w. bush, president clinton and president carter will be there. raul castro will be there. will mandela's message of forgiveness resonate? and a time crunch of epic proportions, will the venue be safe? first on the security front. joy worked -- joe worked on sec for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to shabaab. monitoring these will not be easy. you have the problem of a lot of weapons coming through africa, central african republic, libya and the rest of it. so there is the potential danger to secure all these people. >> the u.s. delegation a small part of the crowd. how much control can the u.s. secret service have, realistically? >> well, it's entirely up to the host government. the south african government has hosted u.s. presidential visits in the past. they do a good job. but, again, it's a very difficult situation. you have 100 heads of state means you have 100 armed security details for those h

established in 2001 by president george w. bush, the office is tasked with helping faith-based and community organizations provide federally funded social in a neighborhood partnerships. established in 2001 by president george w. bush, the office is tasked with helping faith-based and community organizations provide federally funded social services. the symposium explored the importance of the office and its for years, president osha and his advisers believed that small faith-based and community organizations had been at an unfair disadvantage, competing on an unlevel playing field when it came to qualifying for and accessing and receiving federal funding. although they were serving american communities in many ways, they did not have the resources, information, or connections to pursue federal larger, more prominent organizations have. in some instances, faith-based organizations were finding themselves at a disadvantage in applying for funding specifically because they were faith-based. the white house office of faith is an

george w.rmed in many ways, the pepfar agreement, all the work he's done since and repeated trips to tanzania. >> even people who didn't like george w. bush's politics or wars, whatever, have to give him credit for the pepfar program which literally saved millions of lives especially in southern africa providing retro viral drugs for aids to people who otherwise would not have had this lifesaving treatment. it's an astonishing accomplishment and recognized and appreciated across the continent where he's probably more popular than he is anywhere in the world. >> i was going to say um becki, mandela's successor has a reaction area view that aids somehow was not the treatment and so banned retro viral drugs. it was mandela and mandela foundation that stepped in and pepfar and george w. bush that filled the gap. >> that's right. remember, ten years ago epicenter of the aids epidemic, demographic and human disaster on a massive scale there. the fact it hasn't happened is a tribute to president bush.

george w. bush, which he saw as imperialistic. that was a bit of a public- relations problem for the bush white house. the election of barack obama, the kind of change towards a multiracial society that he saw in south africa as well. it was not just south africa that nelson mandela was revolutionary. it was his moral stature around the world and the way that he used it that made a difference. was tremendous respect from leaders around the world for nelson mandela. next year. are coming ines from presidents of this country. george w. bush, "we join the people of south africa and around the world and celebrity the life of nelson mandela. he was one of the great forces for freedom and equality of our time. he left the world with dignity and grace and our world is better off because of his example," that from president george w. bush a short time ago. jonathan karl, certainly president obama made aware of the news, the loss this afternoon. have we heard anything yet from the president? >> the whit

presidents george w.ter will attend the memorial being held at the same stadium where mandela made his last public appearance. we'll talk about the security challenges when half of the world's leaders are in one location. >>> three teenagers arrested accused of letting their friend drive drunk before she crashed and died. should the teenagers be held accountable? we'll discuss this next on "news nation." [ female announcer ] puffs knows winter is hard on your face. [ sneezes ] [ female announcer ] the start of sneeze season. the wind-blown watery eyes. [ sniffling ] the sniffling guy on the bus. and, of course, the snow angels with your little angels. that's why puffs plus lotion is soft. puffs plus are dermatologist tested to be gentle. they help soothe irritated skin by locking in moisture better. so you can always put your best face forward. a face in need deserves puffs indeed. a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial fibrillation -- an irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve p

which i would argue is completely not in the constitution united states but this was set up under george w. bush it was inherited by president obama and congress is prevented from dealing with it in the way that i and many americans and the like to say to deal with that being put them on trial because they're not allowing the one thing that they're sticking with us throughout allowing these people to come to the united states free to be imprisoned here or to be you know to stand for trial here so how can he really policy wise even get around that obstacle how would he be able to close i don't think he can i mean the congress has prevented it i mean president obama came in his very first years he's going to close guantanamo bay within a year and then congress passes legislation basically prohibiting him from doing so so for all the criticism of president obama for not shutting it down it really is congress's prevent him from doing that seems like it's going to be a huge sticking point well let's talk about sexual assault in the military because this was undoubtedly one of the most controver

from having done two vice presidential searches for george w. bush i can tell you the perfect candidate does not exist. i always end up at the least worst option in case -- except in my case obviously. >> laughed. [laughter] that's a good point in which to close out the evening. >> on to thank everybody for coming and a special thanks to the george washington university heart and vascular institute that helps promote this event tonight and to the staff of the press club. now for a special occasion we have if i can get up here without dropping it. this is a big event of the night. [laughter] the national press club mugs. we always presented to our special guests. thank you all for coming. [applause] >> he will keep coming back until he gets the whole set of the half dozen. please join me in thanking the vice president and dr. reiner for a fabulous presentation and as you can see the book is wonderful so get it. [applause] .. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> this is really w

former president george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter are attending the ceremony there as well. the anti-apartheid leerd make an appearance at that very stadium for the closing ceremonies of the 2010 world cup you might remember. his last public appearance, uniting races while he did that. he died last friday. he was 95 years old and will be buried on sunday in his rule hometown. today is the memorial service. senior foreign affairs correspondence greg is at the stadium there. i understand it's raining there. i can't tell it's raining if you look at the video but the stadium is filling up and people are packing into the top part of the stadium which is under cover right now. describe the scene for us if you will. >> reporter: exactly. it is a cold, wet, windy, rainy day here in johannesburg but the scene in the huge soccer stadium behind me is anything but dampened. the mood, the spirit, the enthusiasm is incredible. this is a national memorial to the late nelson mandela. the icon for the world. they c

the first lady, former president george w. bush and hi wife, laura, as well as former secretary of state hillary clinton. you would expect with all those names, security would be very tight. from what we've seen here, incredibly lax. people going if and out of the stadium without a metal detector or a patdown. the south african government says they're we well prepared for any scenario. they've hosted dig any tars before and the world cup in 2010. john? dy diana? >>> president obama's limb moe caught in traffic. a rare sight of the limo nicknamed the beast. >> abc will follow events in south africa all morning. a complete wrap up on "good morning america." >>> back here at home, the headline this morning is the wintry weather wallop. >> forecasters predicting another double punch as a storm system coming out of the great lakes combines with a southern low from the south. lit spawn more snow from the mid-atlantic to the northeast. >>> a bitter cold front out of canada is blasting parts of minnesota. the mercury struggled to stre

that's george w. bush low. and george w. bush as you know never climbed out of that hole. he never got back to 50% which is where you need to be, over 50%. how does the president do it? >> first, it was very interesting. he was definitely doing his best mohammed ali rope-a-dope, laying on the ropes, taking tough questions and hoping the next round will be better. he was trying to get on air force one today and he succeeded. he did not make news which was his goal. but in the background, while we focus on the lumps, there are some good things beginning to emerge and surface. the economy is beginning to come forward. one of the quarters got revised up to 4% growth. >> i was actually surprised he didn't talk about that more. >> i would have been pounding on that. 4% growth. you're chasing china at that point. so that was good. the other thing he missed a huge opportunity because of the fatigue to pound on the fuel prices. just think of gas prices going up the way they're going down. he would be getting killed on that. so i think when you have this level of fatigue and just ge

times the weight time of george w. bush's nominees. you have seen significantly longer wait time from court approval. the difference was the senate democrats had it different strategy mixing the process up. they would try to hurt the nominee's chances before they even got to committee. reid went on to the this in the midst of nuclear debate, they talked about how half of the cloture motions have come under president obama's term. which is a startling statistic. think only for cloture motions were ever invoked the past 13 years. were on theinees floor and they had to bring this to a vote? >> right. they nominated what they thought would be the best candidate possible. >> those people passed the committee. >> they are approved in that process within they have to wait to get to the final confirmation days, and 10040 days on average. onwe do this interview friday, december 13. the fallout from the nuclear option vote is longer wait time. republicans are insisting on the full number of hours of debate. as you look at it in the couple of end

this is one of seven very republican districts that george w. bush won, john mccain won, mitt romney won so that is a seat democrats aren't going to be able to capture. they need 17 seats to be able to reclaim control of the house that is a long way away. >> ifill: that was always considered to be a long way away but it doesn't help when people decide to retire. >> not at all am they don't like defending open sees-- seats but republicans are retiring 11 to to 1 versus democrats. when you talk to them they see that as expanding their map. they see opportunities in places like arkansas, north carolina, other places in south florida, some other states like that. >> ifill: well, let's talk about the senate, because in the senate there are also retirements and there's a better chance of gaining or regaining control for republicans, perhaps. >> the senate republicans need six net seats to be able to take control back. three of those seats might look pretty easy. you've got west virginia where jay rockefeller a democrat is retiring, south dakota and mo

inside air force one, the obamas and george w.aura bush along with former first lady clinton, the former president bill and daughter chelsea are flying from an event in rio and linking up with the rest of the club tomorrow. president george h.w. bush who has been in poor health for some time will not be making the trip. together, they are set for an almost 20-hour flight, even though there's only one bed on board. >> air force one is a very intimate setting so that's the place where you can have quieter conversations. once you get to one of these massive events, it's very hard to have real conversations. >> these long flights, believe it or not, can forge friendships. in 1981, president ronald reagan could not attend the funeral of egypt's anwar saddat so he enlisted others to attend instead. the flight was said to be initially awkward and very long, but one notable friendship emerged. evident at ford's funeral more than 25 years later, when jimmy carter eulogized his long-time friend. >> for myself and for our nation, i want to t

in 2002, george w bush presented him with the presidential medal of freedom. barack obama met mandela only one in 2005, when obama was still a senator. nelson mandela. >> when south africa hosted the world cup tournament in july of 2010, he made his last major public appearance at the final games. the crowd honoring him with a thunderous ovation. >> never, and never agai again, shall it be will gain the experience, the oppressive, of one by another. and suffer the indignity of things to some of the world. >> signing up the effects are so glorious, a human achievement. god bless africa. in 1990, he visited new york and nearly 100,000 people gathered in harlem to hear him speak. tonight, outside the apollo theater, marque honored nelson mandela, that's where jordan martin is standing by, what are you hearing tonight? >> first john, it is pretty evidence you can see the marque you just mentioned it says in memory ol' nelson mandela, he changed our world. a lot of people here in hair held, and in new york in general remember when he came here, actually the marque

known for his impressions, from george w.-- >> strategery. [ laughter ] >> reporter: -- to janet reno, to saddam hussein. >> monica, you never call me anymore. [ laughter ] >> reporter: in his last season, he reportedly became the highest paid cast member. his salary $350,000. >> we're going streaking! >> reporter: before long, he went old school. >> yes. >> reporter: the movie was a hit, box office take $87 million worldwide. >> it's so good. >> reporter: this funny man became a leading man. there was "elf." >> santa! oh, my gosh! >> reporter: anchorman," "talladega night,s," "blades of glory," "stepbrothers," the animated hit "mega mind." and the "campaign." they haven't all been hits, and he was once named the most overpaid actor by "forbes." but tally it all up, movies will farrell has starred in have grossed almost $2 billion. >> massive amounts of money. >> reporter: and that's before "anchorman 2." >> why can't the news be fun? >> reporter: ron burgundy does product placement very well. dodge commercials helped push du

president george w. bush was in office and he said: >> farmer george w. bush, and laura bush released a statement saying: >> former president bill clinton sa said: >> president clinton posted a photo of himself with nelson mandela. clinton tweeted this picture with a message saying: >> nelson mandela now belongs to the ages, president obama said. nelson mandela died at his home at the age of 95. today the world remembers and celebrates his life. stay with al jazeera america for complete coverage of his passing. i'm john siegenthaler. we leave you with the words of nelson mandela from his inaugural address. [ singing ] >> never, never, and never again shall it be that this beautiful land will again experience the oppression of one by another. and suffer the indignity of being the scum of the world. the sun shall never set on so glourious a human achievement. let the sun rain. god bless africa. thank you. (clapping) << announcer: this is al jazeera america. we join this program already in progress. >> hello, you are watching al jazeera's special coverage of

presidents, george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter as well as many other dignitaries and celebrities. george and laura bush are aboard air force one with the obamas right now. so is the former secretary of state hillary clinton, the current attorney general of the united states, eric holder, the national security advisor to the president, susan rice, among many, many others. let's bring in our chief national correspondent, john king, who has covered a lot of these kinds of trips. we have been on many of these major trips. can it get awkward from time to time? you have -- there will be four american presidents, current president, three former presidents, in south africa with their wives at the same time. >> number one, a major security challenge for the united states secret service and their international allies as they cooperate on this. i just spoke to a couple sources, they say they are very confident. can it get awkward. you mentioned the current president of the united states and raul castro. i

in addition, president obama, george w. bush, president clinton and president carter will be there. raul castro will be there. will mandela's message of forgiveness resonate? and a time crunch of epic proportions, will the venue be safe? first on the security front. joe worked on security for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to shabaab. monitoring these will not be easy. you have the problem of a lot of weapons coming through africa, central african republic, libya and the rest of it. so there is the potential danger to secure all these people. >> the u.s. delegation a small part of the crowd. how much control can the u.s. secret service have, realistically? >> well, it's entirely up to the host government. the south african government has hosted u.s. presidential visits in the past. they do a good job. but, again, it's a very difficult situation. you have 100 heads of state means you have 100 armed security details for those hides of s

if you had told george w.back in 2008 that by 2013, he would be number two on this list, i think he would be ecstatic. >> believe me. >> bush came out and showed his personal side and he got his paintings, he went on the late shows. it reminded people that this might be a guy that i would enjoy having a beer with. we're a few years out from his presidency, and people are remembering him more fondly. >> julie, do you think -- is hillary clinton being at the top of the list for women, is that at all predictive of anything to come? >> i don't think so at all. look at who the competition was. kate middleton. i'm for her fashion sense, but she married into the right family. and queen elizabeth, who was born into the right family. so she doesn't have much competition. you have hillary clinton, sarah palin, who is still up there. oprah is always popular. oprah, if she still had her show and didn't go to her own network, she might have been beat the top of the list. >> i thought it was interesting. sam, i wanted to as

george w. bush would describe an an axis of evil, reagan spoke of a confederation of terrorist states. it was the clinton administration, however, that made rogue regime part of washington's lexicon. when the defense secretary left aspen unvails proliferation initiatives in december 1993, he warned that the new nuclear danger we face is perhaps a handful of nuclear devices in the hands of rogue states or even terrorist groups. speaking in 1994 to politicians in brussels, clinton, himself, described iran and libya as rogue states. sec tear of state kris tosser rougherred to iran and iraq as rogue regimes in an address at georgetown university later that same year. in each case, the clinton administration focused more on rogues towards the yaits than the danger of rogue leaders posed to their own people. saddam hussein was a rogue leader pursuing nuclear weaponry and invaded kuwait. he was not a rogue because he gasessedded kurds and massacred shiites. tony lake, clinton's national security advis

a position more in favor of one or the other that's really his choice i mentioned that quote by george w. bush earlier and. you know the idea that you need to help democratize other countries. as a way of insuring your own security and i think it's still very popular in the west but it is certainly i guess part of the always see mission especially since the collapse of the soviet union you've made some progress in that domain i wonder if you indeed agree with george w. bush in that that actively promoting democracy is not just a matter of your values or your ideology but it is indeed part of the security doctrine would say that but this is a concept that these agreed by everybody in your city we need to do should whose name refers to the promotion of democratic institutions if we have in our societies and in the structures of our countries checks and balances you have immense were. controlling somehow the decisions of the governments governments reporting to parliaments if you have democratic process is over the actions that the laws that make sure that government's duty flick to the wil

he is actually a little bit this point than george w. bush was and we know george w. bush had a very bad 2005. know, and president reagan and clinton were well over 50 percent. low end of that. >> man with an assault is the is the white house plan to turn it around and do they have around.o turn it gwen: they are keeping it a secret from him and us as well. always believe there is a direct connection between the economy and his standing and they will try to ride that. at the same time, i think they are looking for ways to make it appear as though he actually is somemmand and can do things. he brought john podesta in as a counselor at the white house in part with a portfolio to look at executive actions that he can do without the approval of congress climaterogress gres on change or energy or even the jobs front. >> when you are at a record low the temptation must be to say it can only go up from here. could it actually get worse from here? >> i suppose it could. i think the country is so littleed that he has a bit higher floor than perhaps president bush did in his pr

three times the wait time of george w. bush's nominees. you have seen significantly longer wait time from court approval. the difference was the senate democrats had it different strategy mixing the process up. they would try to hurt the nominee's chances before they even got to committee. when harry reid went on to the floor in the midst of this nuclear debate, they talked about how half of the cloture motions have come under president obama's term. which is a startling statistic. i think from 1917 through 1960, only 4 cloture motions were ever invoked the past 13 years. were ever invoked. the past 13 years, the number is 280. >> these nominees were on the floor and they had to bring this to a vote? >> right. they nominated what they thought would be the best candidate possible. >> those people passed the committee. >> right. they passed the senate judicial committee. they are approved in that process within they have to wait to get to the final confirmation vote between 140 days, and 100 days on average. >> it is interesting you talk abo

presidential george w. bush in austin. later, they honored the march on washington. >> no former president likes to be marginalized. they always like to be the center of attention, here we have four centers of attention? that is a lot to juggle. >> but for all of their smiles, a stage shared by leaders can seem small at times, so safe travel to the nation's leaders today. may you get along well with your seat mate. >> that is all for us, thank you for joining us, "ac360" starts right now. >>> jake, thank you very much. good evening, everyone, as one official here in johannesburg put it, the world is coming to south africa to pay tribute to nelson mandela, the father of south africa. it is the single largest gathering of heads of state and gives just in a few hours, president obama, former president george w. bush and hillary clinton sharing air force one, former presidents clinton and carter flying separately, along with presidents and princesses and kings from other countries. many converging on a soccer stadium here in j

i wonder if you indeed agree with george w. bush and that that actively promoting democracy is not just a matter of your values or your ideology but it is indeed part of the security doctrine i would say that but this is a concept that these agreed by everybody in your city we have institutions whose name refers to the promotion of democratic institutions if we have in our societies and in the structures of our countries checks and balances you have immense were. controlling somehow vetting the decisions of the governments governments reported to the parliaments if you have democratic processes over the actions that the laws that make sure that governments do reflect the will of the people then it is more difficult for a government to make a decision that can be dramatic but here we're talking about internal institutions internal democratic institutions and i'm asking you about an outside effort to bring democracy to any certain country and you mentioned earlier that everybody agrees on that model but i would like to mention on

george w. bush, former secretary of state hillary clinton.morrow's memorial service including cuba's president raul castro, a soccer stadium full of mourners will congregate to remember nelson mandela's life and hess enduring legacy. >> we think of you, your father, wonder of the world. >> in a moving tribute to her friend on behalf of the american people, maya angelou released this video reciting a poem, "his day is done." she will join me to reflect on the man she calls the heart of africa. >> will i be able to remember all that i've learned from him, from his kindness and his generosity of spirit. will i remember? i thank god i do. >> and that wintry storm from north to south with snow, ice, freezing temperatures, it isn't over yet. we'll have the latest forecast on where it's headed next.

we saw that report from the federal judge, he's an appointee of george w. bush. it's not constitutional. i want to read part of his opinion here. he said, i can't imagine an arbitrary invasion than this systematic and high-tech collection and retention of personal data on virtually every single citizen for purposes of querying it and analyzing it without judicial approval. your response? >> well, a couple of things, 16 federal judges, 36 different opinions, all have had a different opinion. remember, no names, no addresses, just numbers, and these are business records, not your personal records, that's very, very different. there's been hundreds of appellate decisions reaffirming the government's right to get business records in the course of terror investigations or in this case, determining a terrorist from overseas is calling into the united states. so, this is one case when you have a huge volume, again, perspective is important. yes, this one district judge that doesn't handle national security cases had a difference of opinion, that is our good system. but

and i think that it changed he didn't trust george w. bush and i think when he became president, he felt differently about it and he trusted himself to use it wisely. or the president, i might not want to. but we don't have a chance of changing this as president, i don't know that we will ever have a chance. one thing he does say i don't care what people regional library, i only want to go after terrorists and nobody can really prove the abuses of his power. and number two i think that history shows us that there will be of use. and we have some of this noted documents. in this includes this as well. so i would like to think that i could remember the it is important to the that the constitution and i understand the difficult position. >> the next call for susan herman. margaret from florida, hello, and go ahead with your question or comment. >> hello. >> i'm so glad to hear you on this program and i am such a supportive. for the last 50 years i have watched and listened, but since 9/11 and the patriot act, i have just seen the country ch

george w. bush appointee, that the nsa data collection program will likely be ruled unconstitutional. he sees major problems with this. he's stayed his ruling pending appeal. but the president meantime today met behind closed doors with some of the very same people who collect that data for the nsa, including google executive chairman eric schmidt. our digital editor, the internet companies have a different role but they are working to some extent with the nsa when compelled to do so to gather data, and they say it's to catch bad guys and we're not spying on good guys and regular american citizens, but the question is why was it behind closed doors, why didn't we get a public statement or readout after the fact, why was there only a photograph allowed for one minute after the fact. if it's all on the up and up, why don't we get to know more? >> i guess a good way to think about this, for an ordinary american, who was your advocate in the room? i saw vice president joe biden was there. he has pr

fox news contributor judith miller, ecial assistant to george w.columnist, ron christie. and former white house political director under president george w. bush, match lab. thank you for joining us as well. >> he said i you like your doctor, you can keep it. and that wasn't true. i think 2014 is going to be worse. >> small-business insurance, premiums neeeed to go up, it wil be more of a pain for the president. ashely: juds,were you saying? >> it hasn't been a good year. and the economy is steadily improving. and there is more to life than health care. the one we are helping the president get away from this issue, they say, a change to the rules and it seems to go from bad to worse. >> the lest delay was done very quietly. then maybe they will leave it behind and not worry about it anymore. it's amazing that obama doesn think this will just pass. getting to the health care delivery part of it, you are right. the economy has to keep growing. and that is his only salvation. a growing economy helps the president. >> that is a good point. so how will

they're well on their way and former president george w. bush and his wife and former first lady laura bush are en route to johannesburg. >> tomorrow when the official memorial service is going to take place, it's the city's soccer stadium. we want to go live to robin ker now outside of the mandela home. set the scene for us, the mood. this is day four of a ten-day mourning period. >> and i spoke to somebody close to mandela. they said it wasn't enough to not only say good-bye to such a great man but it wasn't enough to organize all of this. just imagine trying to organize more than 90 heads of state, plus more than 80,000 to 90,000 people in that stadium just for tomorrow. in terms of the way south africa is saying good-bye, you can see it behind me. it's starting to rain. people are still outside his home and they've been here nonstop since that thursday announcement. what is key is that they don't really care about what's happen inside the home. everybody seems to have their own personal intimate connection with mandela and they're comin

if you had told george w.back in 2008 that by 2013 he would be number two on this list i think he would be ecstatic. >> believe me. >> bush this year, he really calm out and showed his personal side and i think that buieed him. we got his paintings. he went on the late show. it remind people that hey this would be a guy i would enjoy having a beer with. a few years from his presidency. people are starting to remember him more respondly. >> julie, do you think that -- is hillary clinton being at the top of the list for women, is that at all preparticularrive of anything to come? >> no, i don't think so at all. look who the competition was. kate middleton? >> i'm for her. >> i'm for her fashion sense. she married into the right family. queen elizabeth was born into the right family, right? she doesn't have much competition. you have got hillary clinton and sarah palin who suspect there still. oprah. oprah is always popular. people love oprah. >> inched out by michelle obama by one point. >> oprah had her own sho

deaths of hundreds of thousands of people all in the name of freedom is spending his holiday you see george w. bush is having a real swell time it just came out that to celebrate the season former president bush is selling his artwork on a limited edition christmas ornament and it's flying off the shelves of the bush letters museum store according to shop workers the ornament cost twenty nine ninety eight and peter's a painting of his of the cardinal proceeds from sales go back to his center the ornament comes with a little ribbon attached to it so you can hang it from your christmas bush earlier this year in an interview with a.b.c. news bush said he loves to paint and that it's changed his life in an unbelievably positive way he said it's been an eye opening for him no it didn't open his eyes to the massive amount of death and suffering he caused or how he used freedom to dupe people into supporting him it opened his eyes about colors and shadows according to bush he hopes the ornament beats everyone's expectation i'm not sure what anyone would be expecting from an ornament painted by bush