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these banks were incentivized to hand down their george w. bush mortgages to people they couldn't afford it and then we bailed out. logic president obama's leadership when he was a senator we bailed out wants to do because george bush and hank paulson wanted it to happen right and presidents on the board all of the bailouts or not the bailed out give you the facts support the bailouts well let's look at what the bailout money did for the auto industry in michigan put it put people back to work it put young people back to work on top of that now the auto industry is making profits. on wall street because you know it is now making oh it was one of the top manufacture of cars or your old because the american on back this company you support bailouts are not available as are not them out of supporting bill as a matter of supporting the middle class and working class and that's crony what i would like to know when you bill o'reilly stand alone you build a wall to bail out the rich and the wealthy and you give them more money so they can do more damage
these banks were incentivized to hand down their george w. bush mortgages to people they couldn't afford it and then we bailed out. logic president obama's leadership when he was a senator we bailed out wants to do because george bush and hank paulson wanted it to happen right and presidents on the board all of the bailouts or not the bailed out give you the facts support the bailouts well let's look at what the bailout money did for the auto industry in michigan put it put people back to work...
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in 2000 george w. bush got 55% of the white vote in this country, and the election was a dead heat, a 50/50 split decide by a few hundred votes here in florida, as some of us remember very well like it was yesterday in some cases. eight years later john mccain got 55% of the white vote and lost to barack obama by 7 percentage points. much of that drop-off was due to the fact that the hispanic vote declined from 13 percentage points, from 44% that george w. bush got in the reaction in 2004 to only 31% for senator mccain just four years later. here's the point we need to think about. in 2020 only two presidential electional cycle away, not far in the span of political time. if the republican nominee for president gets the same percentage of the white, african-american, hispanic and asian-american vote that john mccain got in 2008, a democrat will be elected to the white house by 14 percentage points. the fact is 1 out of every 6 americans is of latino origin. in 2012 one in every ten votes cast will be cast b
in 2000 george w. bush got 55% of the white vote in this country, and the election was a dead heat, a 50/50 split decide by a few hundred votes here in florida, as some of us remember very well like it was yesterday in some cases. eight years later john mccain got 55% of the white vote and lost to barack obama by 7 percentage points. much of that drop-off was due to the fact that the hispanic vote declined from 13 percentage points, from 44% that george w. bush got in the reaction in 2004 to...
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they say, is this guy george w. bush or is he george h. w. bush? >> it seems to me that you are saying there might be no way possible for mitt romney before the south carolina primary -- >> there are ways for him to reassure them and to continue to reassure them. that does not mean that they still would not like to see him go against one social conservative a to more fully debt that in primaries to be determined in the future. the more he has to do that, the more committed he will be to those issues because of the stances that he will take in order to win those primaries. >> my final question. the role of electability in the fall and social conservatives making the decision on who to support, do you think that rick santorum or rick perry would have a good chance of beating obama? >> right now, they would not. if they won primaries, they might. who thought in 2008 that senator obama had a snowball's chance against hillary clinton? because of 24/7 media, things can change quickly. the obama administration shows that. based on my perception of social
they say, is this guy george w. bush or is he george h. w. bush? >> it seems to me that you are saying there might be no way possible for mitt romney before the south carolina primary -- >> there are ways for him to reassure them and to continue to reassure them. that does not mean that they still would not like to see him go against one social conservative a to more fully debt that in primaries to be determined in the future. the more he has to do that, the more committed he will...
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and i don't see the push and pull with george w. bush and his father, the kind of difference in them. although when you get down into the relationship between george and mitt romney, there's a lot of affection there. but they are two completely different people. their operating systems are different. chris: andrea. >> can i interrupt? that's unlike me. and may be fairly bored with this conversation and there are not these deep psychological motivations and we want to please our parents to some extent but these are two very distinct individuals. and if there is a driving philosophy, i think it really comes down to duty. you have -- the mormon church has something to do with it but the way he was raised. chris: we've seen so many guys, men in most cases who come along after their father and they see their father having blown it one way or the other, george w. bush's father was defeated for re-election and al gore's father was defeated for senator, mario cuomo, and not like any deep psychological weirdness here. it's they learned from exper
and i don't see the push and pull with george w. bush and his father, the kind of difference in them. although when you get down into the relationship between george and mitt romney, there's a lot of affection there. but they are two completely different people. their operating systems are different. chris: andrea. >> can i interrupt? that's unlike me. and may be fairly bored with this conversation and there are not these deep psychological motivations and we want to please our parents to...
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and then john mccain speaks, and finally, george w. bush, who lost the primary to george mccain -- to john mccain. year is a look at al gore. [cheers and applause] it [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> all right, everybody. thank you. thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you very much. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] whoo! >> [crowd chanting "we want al!"] >> i want to thank all of the people in new hampshire, particularly those who voted for al gore. thank you. thank you so much. thank you. [cheers and applause] and we need to think our tremendous campaign manager, bill. [cheers and applause] i always introduce the staff first, and now his wife, the governor. [cheers and applause] all right. all right. i came here on november 10 to file the papers for al's candidacy, and i signed the official book, and this is how i started. "the fun starts here. new hampshire rocks." [cheers and applause] wwhoo! [cheers and applause] so the thank you. thank you for not only rocking but
and then john mccain speaks, and finally, george w. bush, who lost the primary to george mccain -- to john mccain. year is a look at al gore. [cheers and applause] it [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> all right, everybody. thank you. thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you very much. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] whoo! >> [crowd chanting "we want al!"] >> i want to thank all of the people in...
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behind us hundred eighty nine percent of the debt came from ronald reagan fifty five percent from george w. bush it was reduced by thirty seven percent of our debt came from bill clinton one hundred fifteen percent of our debt came from george w. bush these were these are you know increases in debt under fifty percent increase and a sixteen percent increase by obama why is mitch daniels coming on t.v. lion and why is this like some kind of major talking point for publicans when the facts point to that it's that it's a lie but these are percentages of increase i went to the u.s. treasuries website today u.s. treasury dot gov and at the beginning of george bush's term to the end he raised the debt four point nine trillion in eight years this president has raised it over five trillion in less than four years how do you answer that well he always had a real hair and a depression no no. he added he added more in less then for you there is a dip then reuters did and a year ago said that he said he inherited he didn't say george w. bush gave him this glowing wonderful economy and he destroyed it he sai
behind us hundred eighty nine percent of the debt came from ronald reagan fifty five percent from george w. bush it was reduced by thirty seven percent of our debt came from bill clinton one hundred fifteen percent of our debt came from george w. bush these were these are you know increases in debt under fifty percent increase and a sixteen percent increase by obama why is mitch daniels coming on t.v. lion and why is this like some kind of major talking point for publicans when the facts point...
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army under george w. bushnsurgency under this new plan is busted down to ninth place on the new list of u.s. military priorities. large-scale prolonged stability operations are explicitly ruled out in this new plan. ruled out. no more iraqs. no more afghanistans. at least no more afghanistans after this current afghanistan that we're still in. the grand remake the world neocon wizard vision of the past ten years, what george w. bush explicitly did not run on but then brought us as president, as of today that experiment is over. it has finally been declared dead. for several years congressman barney frank has championed changes like the ones announced today. he joins us here in studio next. daddy, come in the water! somebody didn't book with travelocity, with 24/7 customer support to help move them to the pool daddy promised! look at me, i'm swimming! somebody, get her a pony! [ female announcer ] the travelocity guarantee. from the price to the room to the trip you'll never roam alone. >>> joining us now here
army under george w. bushnsurgency under this new plan is busted down to ninth place on the new list of u.s. military priorities. large-scale prolonged stability operations are explicitly ruled out in this new plan. ruled out. no more iraqs. no more afghanistans. at least no more afghanistans after this current afghanistan that we're still in. the grand remake the world neocon wizard vision of the past ten years, what george w. bush explicitly did not run on but then brought us as president, as...
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george w. bush which the country josh becketted. >> jon: the republicans -- country josh josh rejected. >> jon: the republicans didn't. they almost renounced their former basically presidents. reagan said he would lower -- you know make government smaller. it got bigger. it has since grew. >> yes. >> jon: george h.w. raised taxes. george w. bush had wars. >> the republicans have changed in the last 48 hours when they attacked mitt romney for making money and hiring people. >> jon: wasn't that the craziest thing. newt gingrich is the occupy wall street candidate. >> exactly. >> jon: what the hell is going on? >> gingrich is a long haired lefty ever since he heard the era of big government is over and he believed it. there's only one republican candidate who won't go to war. who doesn't believe it's the job of president to run the economy or to be the policeman of the world or tomorrow you how to live -- >> jon: are you talking about taft? taft? >> the guy you admire most. >> jon: in the republican fi
george w. bush which the country josh becketted. >> jon: the republicans -- country josh josh rejected. >> jon: the republicans didn't. they almost renounced their former basically presidents. reagan said he would lower -- you know make government smaller. it got bigger. it has since grew. >> yes. >> jon: george h.w. raised taxes. george w. bush had wars. >> the republicans have changed in the last 48 hours when they attacked mitt romney for making money and hiring...
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i mean, look, in 2000 and 2008, jn mccain and george w. bush both got the same percentage of white voters. one won in a landslide in 2000, the other lost by seven. that's the changing democrat graphic nature of our state and of our country. so if you want to win in the swing states you need to attract swing voters. and if you want to win in the country you have to do that. so i think there needs to be a concerted 24/7 effort, not just to do it when you come down to miami, there ought to be an effort in north carolina, efforts in new mexico, nevada, the swing -- the growing populations in all of the swing states are hispanic voters. and the tone of the campaign talking about border security, which is a significant issue. if you just focus on that alone and not talk about economic opportunity, overregulation of small businesses, education reform to give people opportunities, a tip of the hat of the patriotic and aspirational nature of all the hispanic communities to connect personally, if you don't do any of that you're not saying welcome to our
i mean, look, in 2000 and 2008, jn mccain and george w. bush both got the same percentage of white voters. one won in a landslide in 2000, the other lost by seven. that's the changing democrat graphic nature of our state and of our country. so if you want to win in the swing states you need to attract swing voters. and if you want to win in the country you have to do that. so i think there needs to be a concerted 24/7 effort, not just to do it when you come down to miami, there ought to be an...
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the three most recent presidents, bill clinton, george w. bushnd barack obama finished second in the new hampshire primary. the last president to win new hampshire, george h.w. bush in 1998. >>> let's get steven colbert's take on the rise of rick santorum. >> the gop presidential race is heating up. romney and santorum tied in iowa. perry soldiering on. and michele bachmann dropping out to spend more time fiercely staring at her family. just one day since the iowa caucuses, rick santorum raised $5 million. with the santorum surge, it just got real, ladies and gentlemen, because he caught the notice of the most influential voice of the 19th century, george will. who published a pro-santorum op-ed entitled "suddenly a fun candidate." fun. and if anybody knows fun, it's george will. after all, a bowtie is just a necktie that's doing this. folks, you want fun? santorum is the life of the party. heck, he's the pro-life of the party. there's this -- there's great drinking game, where you take a shot every time he says the words partial birth abortion.
the three most recent presidents, bill clinton, george w. bushnd barack obama finished second in the new hampshire primary. the last president to win new hampshire, george h.w. bush in 1998. >>> let's get steven colbert's take on the rise of rick santorum. >> the gop presidential race is heating up. romney and santorum tied in iowa. perry soldiering on. and michele bachmann dropping out to spend more time fiercely staring at her family. just one day since the iowa caucuses, rick...
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george w. bush and clinton. >> you row, and i'm going to quadruple, each a debate or four months through the prism, emotional as well as political. is there any debate performance, either theirs or yours, that sort of sticks out in your mind if you were sitting -- >> guest: sure, sure. here's one of the province by sitting so close, and remember, it's all about television. this is before the millions and millions of people watching on television. it isn't the studio program. this is not a pep rally for the opposing candidates or any of that, and it's not even an interview program. the purpose of the debate is not to show how terrific the moderator is. >> host: how much you know qwest mac -- >> guest: how quick he or she is responding to all that. i, for instance, to answer question specifically, the one our member more than any other was the first al gore, george w. bush debate in boston 2000. and i was sitting right where i am now, and bush was to my right and court was to my left, very close. and
george w. bush and clinton. >> you row, and i'm going to quadruple, each a debate or four months through the prism, emotional as well as political. is there any debate performance, either theirs or yours, that sort of sticks out in your mind if you were sitting -- >> guest: sure, sure. here's one of the province by sitting so close, and remember, it's all about television. this is before the millions and millions of people watching on television. it isn't the studio program. this is...
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army under george w. bushnsurgency under this new plan is busted down to ninth place on the new list of u.s. military priorities. large-scale prolonged stability operations are explicitly ruled out in this new plan. ruled out. no more iraqs. no more afghanistans. at least no more afghanistans after this current afghanistan that we're still in. the grand remake the world neocon wizard vision of the past ten years, what george w. bush explicitly did not run on but then brought us as president, as of today that experiment is over. it has finally been declared dead. for several years congressman n changes like the ones announced today. he joins us here in studio next. my name's jeff. i'm a dad, coach... and i quit smoking with chantix. knowing that i could smoke during the first week was really important to me. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke -- and personally that's what i knew i needed. [ male announcer ] some people had chang
army under george w. bushnsurgency under this new plan is busted down to ninth place on the new list of u.s. military priorities. large-scale prolonged stability operations are explicitly ruled out in this new plan. ruled out. no more iraqs. no more afghanistans. at least no more afghanistans after this current afghanistan that we're still in. the grand remake the world neocon wizard vision of the past ten years, what george w. bush explicitly did not run on but then brought us as president, as...
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army under george w. bushrinsurgency under this new plan is busted down to ninth place on the new list of u.s. military priorities. large-scale prolonged stability operations are explicitly ruled out in this new plan. ruled out. no more iraqs. no more afghanistans. at least no more afghanistans af in. the grand remake the world neocon wizard vision of the past ten years, what george w. bush explicitly did not run on but then brought us as president, as of today that experiment is over. it has finally been declared dead. for several years congressman barney frank has championed changes like the ones announced today. he joins us here in studio next. [ female announcer ] crest 3d white was recognized by marie claire as one of the 25 beauty products that will change your life because it whitens by removing up to 80% of surface stains. see how it can change your life. crest 3d white. life opens up when you do. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol plus diabetes... or hig
army under george w. bushrinsurgency under this new plan is busted down to ninth place on the new list of u.s. military priorities. large-scale prolonged stability operations are explicitly ruled out in this new plan. ruled out. no more iraqs. no more afghanistans. at least no more afghanistans af in. the grand remake the world neocon wizard vision of the past ten years, what george w. bush explicitly did not run on but then brought us as president, as of today that experiment is over. it has...
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we had gone into iraq with the argument by george w bush we had to do it. there was no w.m.d. there, illusionment about the war, mixed about the war still being fought. he basically ran against john kerry by beating him, swift voting, all of the negative stuff. there was a case of a president who squeeked back in with ohio, basically one state, by trashing his opponent. >> 100,000 votes in ohio. i was on the plane and bus with john kerry that year, remember it well. in the first debate, the then president george bush didn't do very well. there was a sense that kerry would lock this in. john kerry would say it was a tape of osama bin laden that hit in october that really switched things for him and made that argument that almost seems quaint now that you don't want to change horses during a war with a president. if you remember how fiercely people at that time did not like the war in iraq. a lot of it came down to john kerry and a comfort level. in this election year, the notion of electability which is such a great sales pitch until people settle in with the gut check. chris:
we had gone into iraq with the argument by george w bush we had to do it. there was no w.m.d. there, illusionment about the war, mixed about the war still being fought. he basically ran against john kerry by beating him, swift voting, all of the negative stuff. there was a case of a president who squeeked back in with ohio, basically one state, by trashing his opponent. >> 100,000 votes in ohio. i was on the plane and bus with john kerry that year, remember it well. in the first debate,...
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when i george w. bush was criticized for america's on two terror policies but president obama has now taken them one step further that's according to the former chief military prosecutor of guantanamo bay you can watch speaking to us here on our next hour. he took office the first thing he did was sign an order. closing guantanamo within one year of his order which was signed in january of two thousand and nine and we're sitting here today and want on the most still open the military commissions have resumed and in my view the president just didn't have the balls to follow through with the doing the right thing candidate obama has said all the right things about justice and american values and closing guantanamo and doing away with military commissions and upholding the rule of law and then once he gets in office you know he didn't just embrace the bush policies he kissed him on the lips and ran with them and his advanced them further than president bush ever did. this is ott's he iran has successfully tes
when i george w. bush was criticized for america's on two terror policies but president obama has now taken them one step further that's according to the former chief military prosecutor of guantanamo bay you can watch speaking to us here on our next hour. he took office the first thing he did was sign an order. closing guantanamo within one year of his order which was signed in january of two thousand and nine and we're sitting here today and want on the most still open the military...
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i don't remember anybody questioning some of the things about george w. busht have been questioned about the president. i don't remember an opposing governor wagging his or her finger in president george w. bush's face. the truth is the republican party starts from a core of extreme positions and it seems that lead to extreme rhetoric when things don't work out for them with the voters. >> how can politicians complain about a lack of civility in public life when they themselves embody discourteous and ruden s rudeness? >> i think you're right. one thing i think the president hoped he could do and one thing he continues to try to do, i think he extended a hand at the state of the union address saying we can have tough political battles. we can do it disagreely not with the type of language that we have seen. the president doesn't want to engage in that. i think we would all be better off. >> brad, thanks so much for joining us this afternoon. >> thank you. >>> stay with us. much more on the florida slug fest and this aftermath, straight ahead. >> fact is on big
i don't remember anybody questioning some of the things about george w. busht have been questioned about the president. i don't remember an opposing governor wagging his or her finger in president george w. bush's face. the truth is the republican party starts from a core of extreme positions and it seems that lead to extreme rhetoric when things don't work out for them with the voters. >> how can politicians complain about a lack of civility in public life when they themselves embody...
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you had that with george w. bush saying it was an access of evil at one of these state of the union addresses. we haven't heard that from president obama in these speeches. he's been focused on the economic crisis and what he might have a chance to get done with congress. sometimes it's when you're up against an opponent, whether it's the invisibility opponent of your presidential foes or the congress, that clarifies things. i hope we'll hear a strong argument. >> it's fascinating story you have writing some of the most famous words that we have all heard and read. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> msnbc will have live coverage at 8:00 eastern. >>> penn state coming together to stay good-bye to joe paterno. we'll get the very latest from state college. here is a quick look at the markets. the dow, s&p, nasdaq, all down. [ female announcer ] investing for yourself isn't some optional pursuit. a privilege for the ultra-wealthy. it's a necessity. i find investments with e-trade's top 5 lists. quickly. easily. i use
you had that with george w. bush saying it was an access of evil at one of these state of the union addresses. we haven't heard that from president obama in these speeches. he's been focused on the economic crisis and what he might have a chance to get done with congress. sometimes it's when you're up against an opponent, whether it's the invisibility opponent of your presidential foes or the congress, that clarifies things. i hope we'll hear a strong argument. >> it's fascinating story...
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factcheck.org said george w. bush did. is this a code phrase? >> of course, in these -- it is. >> of course, not unlike welfare queen and designer jeans. we have the worst recession since before world war ii, put more people out of work. food stamps are designed to prevent people from going hungry. that is the reason. and to preserve some sense of civility and sanctity in our society. i would just quote, if i could, this man who style themselves as a reagan conservative. this is a president. today we are feeding more people, taking care of more people, funding more college students than any time in our history, giving more food stamps to more people than we have ever given in our nation's history. march 20, 1984, president ronald reagan. so, ronald reagan was a food stamp president but newt gingrich is distancing himself from him? >> he argues the case worse than that. he says i want to teach african americans to want to have jobs over food stamps. better to get a paid job. that has never been an issue. there are people who are working, low inco
factcheck.org said george w. bush did. is this a code phrase? >> of course, in these -- it is. >> of course, not unlike welfare queen and designer jeans. we have the worst recession since before world war ii, put more people out of work. food stamps are designed to prevent people from going hungry. that is the reason. and to preserve some sense of civility and sanctity in our society. i would just quote, if i could, this man who style themselves as a reagan conservative. this is a...
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george bush's budget director. remember the budget under george w. bush. this is what happened to the budget while mitch daniels was in charge of the budget. when he started as bush's budget guy, we had a nearly $130 billion budget surplus. by the time he left, we had an almost $380 billion budget deficit. thank you, bush tax cuts. mitch daniels' other responsibility under president bush was estimating the cost of the iraq war, which he said would probably cost $50 billion or $60 billion, or so. this is the actual cost of the iraq war. $800 billion. mitch daniels estimated, and he refused to provide specifics at the time, that it would cost less than a tenth of that amount. so that's the mitch daniels' record. that's his fiscal record that the republicans want to highlight with their state of the union speaker this year. yes, of course, that is all in the past. that's all mitch daniels' past, that's his resume. what about his time since? what about his time since as indiana governor? yes, what about that? >> we are -- and this is what it was like in indian
george bush's budget director. remember the budget under george w. bush. this is what happened to the budget while mitch daniels was in charge of the budget. when he started as bush's budget guy, we had a nearly $130 billion budget surplus. by the time he left, we had an almost $380 billion budget deficit. thank you, bush tax cuts. mitch daniels' other responsibility under president bush was estimating the cost of the iraq war, which he said would probably cost $50 billion or $60 billion, or...
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and yet, george w. bushwe took $155 billion surplus to a $1.5 trillion deficit, he doubled the national debt. military adventurism across the globe. the republican party -- no, let me take that party, the conservative base is not going to have a replay of george w. bush. they're not going to have a replay of john mccain. and they're not going to sit back and just allow mitt romney to coast to the nomination. does that mean that romney can't make the sell with conservatives? no, i'm not saying that at all, but his focus after he wins iowa and new hampshire, if he does, better be to win over the conservative base and convince them, i will not be george w. bush. i will not be john mccain. >> but we know herbert walker bush, the first president bush, did the same exact thing you prescribed, read my lips, no new taxes, and then he did it! >> yet another reason for conservatives to feel burned. listen, chris -- >> why would you believe that a man who was a moderate governor in massachusetts, who did all this with
and yet, george w. bushwe took $155 billion surplus to a $1.5 trillion deficit, he doubled the national debt. military adventurism across the globe. the republican party -- no, let me take that party, the conservative base is not going to have a replay of george w. bush. they're not going to have a replay of john mccain. and they're not going to sit back and just allow mitt romney to coast to the nomination. does that mean that romney can't make the sell with conservatives? no, i'm not saying...
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george w. bush four years later many civil rights advocates who once cheered yes we can are finding themselves saying no you can't not only has the obama administration blocked torture accountability and refused to investigate and prosecute. he's he's basically maintained indefinite detention has revived military commissions. and as we've seen as well he has expanded targeted killings so they've increased under the obama administration many fold and he's even authorize the killing of a u.s. citizen so you know i think yeah we're in a you know there is a bad state of civil liberties under the obama administration world renowned author and scholar noam chomsky believes the obama administration has changed gears and accelerate it illegal practice into overdrive. between bush's policies and obama's. push bush's policy was to kidnap people. whatever horrible them. put them one time or some other two or three. for him information obama supporters just kill. killing them all over the world. another is the
george w. bush four years later many civil rights advocates who once cheered yes we can are finding themselves saying no you can't not only has the obama administration blocked torture accountability and refused to investigate and prosecute. he's he's basically maintained indefinite detention has revived military commissions. and as we've seen as well he has expanded targeted killings so they've increased under the obama administration many fold and he's even authorize the killing of a u.s....
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income americans. >> it's far more aggressive than what the bush team had on the table. >> it's, george w. bush more so. it's interesting because it's more moderate than anything any of the other republicans have, more moderate than huntsman, santorum, gingrich, in this group, he's a moderate but it's more extreme than bush did. you have to have how it's getting paid for. when bush offered up the tax we had a surplus, the way you were paying for, paying down a surplus. we have deficits now, this tax cut and romney team said this, will have to come out of cuts to government spending. government spending obviously tends to benefit low income americans and middle income americans, you're transferring a bunch of money from the bottom half of the income distribution to pay for the top half, 20, 10 and 1%. not just bush but more so in the raw numbers on the tax cut side, given how you pay for it it's more aggressive than it looks. >> ezra, let's say we were to implement the tax plan, what kind of cuts would we have to make to the budget to pencil out? >> bush's tax cuts were $4 trillion or ten years.
income americans. >> it's far more aggressive than what the bush team had on the table. >> it's, george w. bush more so. it's interesting because it's more moderate than anything any of the other republicans have, more moderate than huntsman, santorum, gingrich, in this group, he's a moderate but it's more extreme than bush did. you have to have how it's getting paid for. when bush offered up the tax we had a surplus, the way you were paying for, paying down a surplus. we have...