, if you want to talk about race and racial resentments, george wallace and the summons strategy. we also mentioned charged charles lindbergh running against, if you listen to some of charles lindbergh speeches when he became part of the imfc. the america first committee, their little echoes of trumpism. >> all, right michael is on the republican line in park film maryland. hi, michael. >> my question is, when my comment. not only would there not have been an invasion of ukraine if reagan was president, i don't believe there would've ever been 9-1-1. they would not have been even in their wildest dreams when they have ever thought of orchestrating that. which probably took about 20 years. and it came up in a weak administration and william jefferson clinton. and that is where it started. >> martin, what do you think? there is this belief that nobody would dare attack america if. >> the question of if reagan were president today, it is undoable. i think everyone listening remembers beirut in 1982. the united states was subject to multiple terrorist attacks including one idlib the m

i didn't know george wallace in 68. who owned it quite well. yes, it was. so there's a there's something that there's that there's a radical there's a radicalism up there where we think of that as a conservative area. now, it is not. and in fact. well, jumping ahead. so i won't go anyway. so i won't jump ahead. sorry, but but the so long gets tired of roosevelt very quickly determines he's the to be president. well he's always that always that and that he will run independently, split enough votes which is often the third party strategy. it's like we're not so delusional that we think we're going to win, but we can muck this up for the party that we are bolting and. long says, yeah, i'll put the republicans in and they mess it up worse than hoover, and i'll come back on a white horse in 1940 and i will just waltz into the white house. though he's assassinated 1935, which leaves his his many in his equally almost equally oratorical genius. this guy, the reverend gerald l.k. smith, adrift left and then smith not to be confused. al smith, another gerald, anoth

my point about his politics not being unprecedented, there are lineages to pat buchanan, george wallace -- you want to talk about racial resentment, the strategy makes an adopted after 1968, and charles lindbergh -- if you listen to some of charles lindbergh's speeches, you hear echoes of trumpism in there. host: michael is on the republican line in parkville, maryland. hi, michael. caller: my question is, or my comment, not only would there not have been an invasion of ukraine of reagan was president, i don't believe there ever would have been 9/11. not in their wildest dreams with a ever have thought of orchestrating that, which probably took about 20 years, and it came up in the administration of william jefferson clinton. that's where it started. guest: where do you think -- host: where do you think this belief comes that no one would attack america -- guest: everyone remembers beirut in 1982. the united states was subject to multiple terrorist attacks, including one that killed more than 200 marines. that happened when ronald reagan was president and he pulled the u.s. out of leban

george wallace he made it clear that the fight is not over yet next year it is the south that will decider becomes president will be who the south votes for, and you will see that the south will not support all candidates. that evening, kennedy addressed the nation. considered by many to be the best presidential speech on civil rights since abraham lincoln, when one man's rights are at stake. the rights of everyone else are infringed if the american, because of the color of his skin, cannot enjoy the full free life that we all desire, which of us agree to change the lightness of his skin since president lincoln freed the slaves. but their descendants and grandchildren are still not completely free. and this nation, despite all its successes and hopes, will not be free until they are free. all its citizens. we are facing a moral crisis, as a country and as a people this seriously affects our country and everything. what we stand for. i ask for the help of all our citizens. thanks a lot. how john f. kennedy was killed director oliver stone producer robert and wilson composer jeff bill you k

many people i did not know that arthur brammer wanted to kille nixon first he sure on —- shot george wallacent that is a good story for the secret serviceer he wrote in his journal that he was trying to get nixon but it was too tricky he was struggling because the secret service men made it too hard for him to get a close in upshot. good for them. kennedy assassination really made them rebuild that agency from the ground up with rigorous training and amazing security but has been slipping the lastep couple decades. >> what you refer to is the exceptional case study project where analysis was done of 83 people who were attacked or came close to attacking prominent figures between 1949 and 1996 they are not all presidents but that's abu lot of instances of attempts many more than a new or remember and the point made in the study that this is not about political ideology so something we learned about these secret service for sure is they have a tougher job because there were so many more attempts than what we read about. >> so many. even before president obama was running for president who set

people who tried to become president barry goldwater bobby kennedy hubert humphrey george mcgovern george wallace. runs too so much of the 1960s talks about supreme court justices. it talks about a general or to talks about the towering activists. we associate with the 60s, dr. martin luther king jr. malcolm x but if there's one thing that animates my sense of the past my sense of myself as an historian. is also really believe that ordinary people. are central to history too? ordinary people who we don't know help us understand whose names. we've never heard of help us understand. the past in a new way an ordinary people in the american past change this nation. so alongside all those famous people who run through the shattering. but i also try to do is tell the stories of ordinary people. what i want to do today. so i just want to tell you. four stories and this is the first one. this is the fourth of july 1961. on the 6100 block of west eddy street in the northwest corner of chicago the day before and cahill and his neighbor clarence mitchell draped their block in 38 flags. that's a lot of flags

who tried to become president, mary goldwater, bobby county, hubert humphrey, george mcgovern, george wallace. who runs through so much of the 1960s. talk about supreme court justices, talks about a general or two, talks about the towering activists we have associate with the 60s, darton dr. mountain luther king junior, malcolm x. but, if there is one thing that animates my sense of the past, my sense of myself as a historian, i also really believe that ordinary people are central to history as well. ordinary people who way do not know help us understand whose name we have never heard of, they help us understand the passed in a new way. and, ordinary people in the american past change this nation. so, alongside all of those famous people who run through the shattering, what i also try to do is tell the stories of ordinary people. what i want to do today is i just want to tell you for stories. and this is the first one. this is the 4th of july, 1961, on the six-day 100 block of west and east street in the northwest quarter of chicago we. the day before new ad cahill and his neighbor, clarence

. -- they made the party of george wallace the party of barack obama. ronald reagan and william f buckley helped to drive the john birch society, a pretty radical group in the 1950s, and out of the republican party, -- republicans have to do that again. they have to dry these extremists out. and if that includes donald trump -- and i think it does -- it will be good for the republicans are good for america. >> thinking about this as well more broadly, taking a step back, because it you have of course this dinner, but you also have -- we also are focusing on tonight, david, and that is, and elliott, the idea of stephen miller testifying. stephen miller is the first known witness, if i'm not mistaken, to testify since the doj appointed special counsel. this is pretty significant. >> it's pretty significant because, that number, when it gets you very close to the former president. now look, the problems were not going to know what he said. and frankly, if anything that he provided the grand jury was actually all that useful or if he felt that he had crimin

karol i did not know to read this book that arthur bremmer who shot george wallace actually wanted to kill richard nixon first. and was thwarted. >> that is actually good story for the secret service. he rode in his journal that he was trying to get nixon. but it was too tricky. it was too tricky to get. he was struggling because the secret service men made it too hard for him to get a close enough shot. so good for them. kennedy's assassination really made them rebuild that agency from the ground up with rigorous training, majoring security. it's been sleeping for the past couple decades. >> is not aware to something you referred to in this book the exceptional case study project. this is where an analysis was done of 83 people who attacked or came close to attacking prominent figures between 1949 and 1996. they are not all presidents. but that that awful lot of instances of attempts, many more than i knew then we probably remember. the point made among others in this study is that many of them are about wedding faith. this is not political ideologies right? something without about t

who tried to become president, barry goldwater, bobby kennedy, hubert humphrey, george govern, george wallacerough so much of the 1960s. it talks about supreme court justices. it talks about a general or to. it talks about the towering activists we associate with the 60s, dr. martin luther king jr., malcolm x. but if there's one thing that animates my sense of the past, my sense of my sufficient stories, is they also really believe that ordinary people are essential to history,. ordinary people we don't know help us understand, whose names you've never heard of, help us understand the passed in a new way. ordinary people, the american past change this nation. so, alongside all of those famous people who went through the shattering, what i also try to do is tell the stories of ordinary people. what i want to do today, i just want to tell you, our stories, or story. war stories. and this is the first one. this is the 4th of july 1961, on the 6100 block of west eddie street in the northwest corner of chicago. a day before -- ad and his neighbor, terrence mitchell, draped their block with 38 flag

my point about his politics not being unprecedented, there are lineages to pat buchanan, george wallaceu want to talk about racial resentment, the strategy makes an adopted after 1968, and charles lindbergh -- if you listen to some of charles lindbergh's speeches, you hear echoes of trumpism in there. host: michael is on the republican line in parkville, maryland. hi, michael. caller: my question is, or my comment, not only would there not have been an invasion of ukraine of reagan was president, i don't believe there ever would have been 9/11. not in their wildest dreams with a ever have thought of orchestrating that, which probably took about 20 years, and it came up in the administration of william jefferson clinton. that's where it started. guest: where do you think -- host: where do you think this belief comes that no one would attack america -- guest: everyone remembers beirut in 1982. the united states was subject to multiple terrorist attacks, including one that killed more than 200 marines. that happened when ronald reagan was president and he pulled the u.s. out of lebanon as

because for people that weren't around in 1968, bobby kennedy was politically as opposite of george wallace as possible, and yet so many of those voters that lined the tracks to say good-bye to bobby, turned around, went home, and then supported george wallace. >> no question, americans like that person who's an outsider, whose promise is something different. you look at joe biden, he's such a decent man, but he does represent the washington establishment, career politician. i thought the strongest part of what biden had to say last night was his implicit appeal to republicans where he was stepping out of his comfort lane to say complicity is silence. you have to speak up. you have to do something about this. i would have been happy to be honest if after the terrible paul pelosi attack biden had summoned steve scalise, mitch mcconnell, other republicans who were threatened themselves by violence, brought them to the white house and said as a group, we need all of us to stand against this. i think that would have been not the career politician's move, but something different, but you're righ

george wallace has made it clear that the fight is not over yet next year it will be up to the southmes president will be who the south votes for, and you will see that the south will not support all candidates. that evening, kennedy addressed the nation. many consider this to be the best presidential speech on civil rights since abraham lincoln, with one man's rights under threat. the rights of everyone else are infringed, if an american because of the color of his skin cannot enjoy the full free life that we all desire, which of us will agree to change the light of our skin since president lincoln freed the slaves. but their descendants and grandchildren are still not completely free. and this nation, despite all its successes and hopes, will not be free until they are free. all its citizens. we are facing a moral crisis, as a country and as a people this seriously affects our country and everything. what we stand for. i ask everyone for help.

all these politicians that stood in front of the school doors like george wallace segregation now, segregationw, segregation forever were all democrats board race and i democrats. all of a sudden in the '60s they switch sides. if you look at all of the people to vote against the civil rights act of 64, all of the democrats, how many of them switched and became republicans? two. most notably strom thurmond. republican party is part of individual responsibility, hard work, family, god here and i and purging all of my fellow blacks to take a good hard look at the history of the republican party and history of the democratic party and not what democrats have done with welfare to essentially attack the black family and replace government with god and with family. a different kind of slavery is being pushed by democrats versus the actual slavery they used to push. >> host: bruce is in del monte california. democrats like. go ahead. >> caller: why did the republicans cheat hillary clinton so bad during benghazi? what was the deal about biden's signs? what was the deal about donald trump's like 22 peo

i have these politicians that have stood in front of school boards george wallace, warren, rick all thein the 60s they switch sides. if you look at all the people to vote against the civil rights all the democrats that voted against it how many of them switched and became most obese they were born democrat and they died democrat. publican party supportive individual responsibility. hard work, family, god. i'm urging all of my fellow black to take a good hard look at the history of the republican party in the history of the democratic party.nd to attack the black family and replace government with god and family. it's a different kind of savers being pushed by democrats versus the actual flavor they used to push. they went bruce is in california democrats line, go ahead bruce. >> caller: hi how are you doing? why did the republican street hillary clinton so bad? what was the deal about biden's sons? what was the deal about donald trump's 22 people in his cabinet have some kind of conviction? what is up withl that? were going to leave it there unless you want to leave a comments. >> guest

my point about his politics not being unprecedented, there are lineages to pat buchanan, george wallacewant to talk about racial resentment, the strategy makes an adopted after 1968, and charles lindbergh -- if you listen to some of charles lindbergh's speeches, you hear echoes of trumpism in there. host: michael is on the republican line in parkville, maryland. hi, michael. caller: my question is, or my comment, not only would there not have been an invasion of ukraine of reagan was president, i don't believe there ever would have been 9/11. not in their wildest dreams with a ever have thought of orchestrating that, which probably took about 20 years, and it came up in the administration of william jefferson clinton. that's where it started. guest: where do you think -- host: where do you think this belief comes that no one would attack america -- guest: everyone remembers beirut in 1982. the united states was subject to multiple terrorist attacks, including one that killed more than 200 marines. that happened when ronald reagan was president and he pulled the u.s. out of lebanon as a

queens went heavy for richard nixon and george wallace. nationally, those two candidates as all of you know this morning got 57% of the vote, and what did they say? we're tough on crime. democrats are soft. nixon put on commercials saying we see cities enveloped in smoke and flame. you know? people are killing. he was right to some extent, but look at that all the way through willie horton, the george h.w. bush campaign did not put on those commercials but people on their behalf did, and they worked extremely well. so you've got someone who would like to see violence, but more than that know what it wants. >> nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss, thank you very much for coming on this morning. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," new polling shows some closely watched races in arizona and wisconsin. they're tightening. we're digging into those new numbers. plus a moment of bipartisanship on the campaign trail. joined by democratic congresswoman elissa slotkin on the heels of her event with gop congresswoman liz cheney. also ahead

bring in now one of our viewers and is year of our viewers and is 81 year old george george, old george wallacected you? the i'm assuming you the triple lock i'm assuming you must about how do must be quite happy about how do you about oh i'm i'm you feel about it? oh i'm i'm very pleased with the triple lock, of course , inevitably, lock, of course, inevitably, with these , as with all with these, as with all government handouts with one hand and take most of it back with the other. but we seem to have done reasonably well this pensioners prices will be going my fuel bill go up i have to have a car because where i am council tax be going up no doubt and so it's not quite good as it looks . 10.1% increase our looks. 10.1% increase our heating our energy costs have gone by a lot more and food gone up gone by a lot more and food gone ”p by gone by a lot more and food gone up by a lot more than that as well. can i just ask george , how well. can i just ask george, how do you feel for pensioners so as to cut costs? george just a bit pressed. tom how do you feel, george, when some of the younger gen

jonathan: when governor wallace's calm down, what do you think he means? georgeose two days along -- allowed the tightening they did. fed needs financial conditions to stay tight and don't want to be loosening when they are trying to get their arms around inflation. we just don't know what the trajectory looks like and how long it will get. calling down is we are not done yet and you are getting ahead of us. lisa: i was reading from deutsche bank talking about how friday was a big day and the peak in the dollar was behind us and that was the title. not just with respect with the cpi but china has made noise but opening up more and seen a bit of retreat from russia from ukraine. how much do you give credence to the geopolitical moves as having a sustainable effect on u.s. markets? george: i think they help on the margin but the q motive effect of fed tightening lies ahead. we have the equivalent of two or three hikes in the next quarter or two. i think the fed policy outweighs that and the hewlett to affect will be felt into next year. i just don't think we have f