george washington carver, and what it is, like, when kids would not be able to get uniforms, we would get their uniforms for them at e.r. tiller -- my granddaughter goes there. can i see a show of hands to see who has kids in public schools? thank you. and it's like, the thing about it is, it's a passion, you know? high schools in bay v w view, it's like, the principals call me when the kids are getting ready to graduate, and they don't have no tuxedos, or gowns for the kids. well, we get them the tuxedos, and gowns, and i drive them in my rolls royce at no charge so they can have the same experience. let me ask you a question: how many people in this room are ghetto. can i see a show of hands? 'cause you know what? g-h g-h-e-t-t-o means getting highly educated to teach others, and that's what we call need to be, getting highly educated to teach others. you know, it's like charles drew -- no, not charles -- george washington carver had teachers when i was volunteering up there that would come and do two years to get their student loans paid off. see, i used to be the vice president of

was unrecognizable now, not that, you know, yes, there were blocks in american history, george washington carver, and there were the slaves who were happy and there were more or less women, betsy ross sewing the american flag. no significance violence because there was no significant tensions across class race and ethic lines. the view about u.s. position in world affairs was totally benign, it was all flaws and then came the civil rights movement and the civil rights movement was calling for a transformation position in contemporary society and it had a correlate that at the same time people wanted to change the president, they began to change the past, the people in the past which was so limited in its definition of membership. the histories that were written about the united states focused on the notorios guys and affairs of states and business, social and economic history were sort of by the boards. so now african americans were not only protesting to state of affairs at the workplace, ballot box, here and there, everywhere, they were protesting their absence from the historical narrative an

abe lincoln, george washington carver, helen keller. i never forgot those books, but what compelled me to write about chief joseph in the first place wasn't joseph. it was the general who led the army forces against the nez perces. a man named oliver otis howard. howard was a main yankee west point graduate, someone with a truly terrific rippling beard. one of the challenges of writing this was very quickly run out of synonyms for bushy. much to the displeasure of his men, he was a teetotaler evangelist. he was known as the christian general. during the civil war he had commanded a union army brigade and became an ardent abolitionist, who early on knew that he was fighting a war to destroy slavery. in june 18, '62, he lost his right arm above the elbow and the nez perces would later call him cut arm. but he quickly recovered and he wound up as one of william tecumseh sherman's commanders during the march to the sea and the final push through the carolinas. as the war was ending howard was cast to lead a bold experiment in governing. con

he named george washington carver. host: you have all this paraphernalia.w many of these roads you have at home? daryl: i only keep a couple at home. i keep a lot of them locked up off-site. i would guess -- i got three recently. i would guess i have between 42-44. host: how do you get them? is the decision made you are going to like each other and the guy says, i'm getting out of the klan and giving it to you? daryl: the first time i got one, the guy was going to get rid of it. he put it in a trash bag and was going to throw it in a dumpster. i said, let me have it. why would you want it? i said, i just wanted. i did not know why i wanted it, but i wanted it. so i got it that way. others, when they decided to leave, i said, what are you going to do with your stuff? they are like, i don't know, get rid of it. i said, can i have it? now i have got people who know -- klan peoples who have heard about me or whatever, read articles, see me on tv, they bes. i have these ro so they say, would you like my robe? host: do you get invited to speak to the general publ

. >> i know the great african american george washington carver discovered the peanut.you're a racist scumbag. >> despite his flaws, despite his prejudices, i think people identified with his pain. >> i wish there was a way to say this that wouldn't hurt you. >> there's a famous episode where they are investigating the rape and murder of a young boy. and they find a homeless child molester who murdered the kid and sipowicz to get the confession has to be very sensitive and very good cop. >> i know this has to be tearing you up inside. but you're going to feel a lot better if you just tell the truth. >> you can sort of see on dennis franz's face this is killing him to not destroy this guy right now. finally, he gets the confession he gets the signed statement. he walks out of the room, he goes into another interrogation room and he breaks the door in two with his fist. and i'm choking up talking about it right now, because that's how great a moment of tv that it is. >> 20 years from now, the best tv dramas, what do they look like? >> i don't know. >> will they be bolder