. >>> i never thought there was a proper case against george zimmerm zimmerman, so they're putting on their case as prosecutors do. that's their job. my job is to defend george and then the jury's job is to decide who did better, whether or not the state proved their case. we'll get there. >> in the george zimmerman murder trial, they have wrapped the case. the jury must decide if zimmerman is guilty of murdering 17-year-old trayvon martin or if he was acting in self-defense. the prosecution put trayvon mart martin's mother and brother on the stand. mark geragos is a criminal defense testimony. listen to the testimony of the two mothers. this was a really riveting day of testimony from these two mothers. both had similar interpretation. the only difference is they've got different sons. listen. >> gun shots? >> yes. >> that screaming or yelling, do you recognize that? >> yes. >> who do you recognize that to be? >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> were you able to hear that voice in the background? >> yes. >> you heard a woman's voice in the foreground, correct? >> yes. >> do you know whose

. >> one word to describe george zimmerm zimmerman? >> lucky. >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> i don't know if there's one word that can describe -- victim. a victim. >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> prey. >> the jury believed otherwise that george zimmerman was a murderer. we're joined by mark o'mara and don west. first of all, what did you think of them describing george zimmerman as a murderer. >> how dare they not accept a jury verdict. they can be upset if they want to be. but they put on their best case, and the jury still said innocent. still said self-defense, they should accept it like adults and with some sense of grace. >> what are the things you were vocal about during the trial was, what you felt were misstatements or lies and evidence that the prosecution had held back from you. how difficult was it to try this case? >> extraordinarily challenging, because of just that, it took us probably hundreds of hours to get what we should have gotten by a simple request. so we spent so much time, so much resources, limited resources try

it's a common sense case and it's not a case about self-defense but denial, george zimmerm zimmerman. >>> incredible lineup of guests for me tonight. a studio audience with opinions you'll want to hear. we'll get to them in a moment. martin salve vague outside the courthouse in sanford, florida. martin this is it now. the jury is out. they spent three and a bit hours deliberating today and asked for some documents. tell me about significance of that. >> well, they did. the jury is allowed to ask questions and in this particular case after their deliberation, an hour and a half or so they said they had one and that of course is the window into what may be going on in the deliberation room. they asked for was specifically a list of all the exhibits they wanted them broken down by number and description. that caught a lot of people's attention because it was like oh, maybe this could be awhile. they seem to have a lot they wish to review. >> they were also be aware there were lots of people watching all over america, all around the world and they will want to take their time. everyone is

and this police detective had to say that despite her lengthy interview that night of george zimmerm zimmermanto have no ill will or hatred, and she tells a very interesting story where she says zimmerman noticed a silver cross around her neck. he asked her if she was catholic. she said no, i'm christian, why? he said because don't catholics think that killing is wrong under all circumstances? she said to him, seemingly comforting him, i don't think that's what god meant. i don't think that god meant you couldn't save your own life. it seems as though at least that evening she believed that he had acted in self-defense. >> and i don't want to -- since the word of the day is speculate here, but it seemed bernie was a bit agitated at some point when he was asking at least more questions regarding her assessment and pressing her on this notion that she may be speculating. she interviewed george zimmerman within an hour and a half of what they call the event obviously, we know that's the killing of trayvon martin. but he seemed to press her a little hard there. >> well, that's right. and look, she

. >> one word to describe george zimmerm zimmerman. >> murderer. >> how dare they not accept a jury verdict. they can be upset if they want to be, but they put on their best case, better than they should have, the way they tried the case, and the jury still said innocent. >> craig, a lot of hard feelings between those two sides. very apparent. there you are at the naacp convention where you've been talking to people and where they want some action. >> yeah. you know what? that is -- continues to be the only thing that people here at the naacp convention are talking about. roughly 4,000 people at the convention this year. 104 years. naacp, oldest civil rights organization in this country. every year they have a number of panel discussions, a number of speakers. this year eric holder. but you talk to anyone for more than 10 or 15 seconds and they want to talk to you about the verdict, about the trial. but a lot of folks are also talking about moving forward. you know that the online petition that was started by the naacp to petition the justice department to engage in some sort of action now.

is what trayvon martin was armed with, just a kid who had skittles and iced tea, you felt george zimmerm zimmermanelling at all or did you mind marks o'mara with the concrete block compelling? >> mark what the concrete block definitely. but with the skittles and to compare the two, you can be armed with anything. you can bash anybody's head against a tree or a rock or the concrete. >> so you believe trayvon martin was slamming george zimmerman's head. >> i think he was probably trying to slam it. i don't know how hard george's head hit on the concrete. it did enough to get bruising, swelling. i think it was definitely enough to make you fear when you're in that situation. >> the photos of george zimmerman, the photos of his injuries, to you, were those something you also looked at in the jury room? >> we did, we did. we did all that that kind of evidence first and listened to the tapes afterwards. >> that was important to you because that also made you believe george zimmerman was legitimate in fearing for his life? >> i believed it. because of his injuries. >> can you talk about the process of th

taking their seats once again for the continuation of these riveting closing arguments in george zimmerm zimmerman'second degree murder trial. this is the end of the road before the jurors get to make their voices heard. silently and then very loudly. if opening statements are the framework into which all these pieces of the puzzle are going to fit in, then closing arguments are the narrative. they are the live story telling, the two-hour documentary of everything you just heard in a story that makes more sense than the legalese and the arcane arguments that are as much for the jury as they are for the record. so it's very easy to understand them. it's very easy to remember them. i want to bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeff, i've been watching this. bernie de la rionda is a masterful attorney. he is one of the better ones i've watched live in action. i am trying to determine by listening to what he's saying if he is arguing before this jury more about second degree murder or if he is really hanging most of what he's trying to describe on manslaughter. what are your thoughts? >> m

but we start with george zimm zimmerm zimmerman's second-degree murder trial.irst time, trayvon martin's mother took the stand in a gripping testimony. sybrina fulton testified about one of the most critical questions in this case, saying that she was certain it was her son's voice screaming on that critical 911 call. the jury also heard testimony from trayvon martin's older

we don't know what's in george zimmerm zimmerman's heart.her, i have spoken to others and i think we should recognize that there are layers in there tragedy. i also see a political component in that, with the rallies this weekend, it is possible that this bolsters the base which supports the president, that he is standing up for them. he has been under a lot of pressure from the black community, he's been under a lot of pressure from jesse jackson, al sharpton, and others to pick a side. and i think he could have gone just a little bit better in not appearing to pick a side. >> gentlemen, stand by, candy crowley is still with us. the growing push to change stand your ground laws in florida and across the nation and later trayvon martin's older brother and there's something he wants all of us to remember about trayvon. of the lexus performance vehicles, including the gs and all-new is. ♪ this is the pursuit of perfection. ♪ ñ in cities like charlotte,ing. atlanta, and chicago, we're revving people up to take a lap around the legendary nascar

in fact, even the chief lead detective in the case said that the inconsistencies from george zimmerm zimmerman's statements have all been minor. when we talk about these injuries, look, let's call it what it is. i don't know that i'd want to have the kind of bruises on the back of my head and the gash that george zimmerman had on the back of his head, i wouldn't want to have that -- have someone call that insignificant. remember this. if a woman, for example, walks into a police station and she presents with those injuries on the back of her head to a police officer, she will by definition, that will be considered great bodily injury. and the police will go out, they'll arrest whoever tid this, if it's her husband, it's domestic violence. that's the standard. we can't take the standard in this case and look at it and say that george zimmerman's injuries weren't severe. they weren't significant. and then in another kind of case, i do this every day, those kinds of injuries and less, and sunny will attest to this, those kind of injuries and less will present in any court of law, in any police stat

but we start with george zimm zimmerm zimmerman's second-degree murder trial. for the first time, trayvon martin's mother took the stand in a gripping testimony. sybrina fulton testified about one of the most critical questions in this case, saying that she was certain it was her son's voice screaming on that critical 911 call. the jury also heard testimony from trayvon martin's older brother and from the medical examiner who performed the autopsy on trayvon martin and who said trayvon experienced pain and suffering after the fatal gunshot. but the day began with that heart wrenching testimony that sybrina fulton that revealed her pain and her pride. >> do you have any children? >> yes, i do. >> and can you tell us who they are and their names? >> my youngest son is trayvon benjamin martin. he's in heaven. >> he's in heaven. just moments was a that emotional testimony, the jury alsolistened to a painful 911 tape that captured the final seconds of her son's life. >> prior to your son's death, had you heard him crying or yelling prior to his death? had you ever h

george zimmerman is still in the courtroom. i would imagine here in the next few minutes -- now right there you see on their tv screen on the left, robert george zimmermer of george zimmerman, and to his left, your right, gladys zimmerman. they have been living in hiding for more than the past year because of the death threats made and received, especially in the early weeks and months of this case. and so robert zimmerman, sr. himself has put on line a few blogs over the past six to nine months. each time ranting, railing against the fact that his son is even a defendant in the second degree murder trial as we were leading up to the trial. he was saying that the evidence doesn't fit it. the entire thing was a politically driven case, and there's the wife, shellie zimmerman, who had her own his zimmerman, who had her own issues with the court after the first bond hearing of george zimmerman, then it was divulged that the two of them were talking somewhat in code while zimmerman, george zimmerman, was still in the jail here behind the courthouse, and all of those more than $100,000 in donations had come in, and they were trying to plead basically pover

the fact trayvon martin could have lived 1-10 minutes after receiving that fatal shot from george zimmerm zimmermanding to the doctor's testimony. the way the shot was administered, a fatal shot and created two holes in the right ventricle of trayvon martin's heart. dr. bao is saying essentially no matter what, this was a fatal shot, no chance of survival. our msnbc analyst, lisa bloom is watching this. as we talk about the account george zimmerman gives of trayvon martin straddling over him and gravity again working in the favor here of george zimmerman, talking about the fact blood was trickling down his throat because of the fight. in essence, after a shot was fired, wouldn't gravity work from blood from trayvon to splatter on to george zimmerman? how come none of that was found? sn>> that's a very good questio. we know that trayvon martin was wearing two sweatshirts. the bullet went through, of course, both sweatshirts into his body. we'd have to examine the amount of blood on the inner sweatshirt and outer sweatshirt. i do believe the dna expert testified there was some of trayvon martin's dna

george zimmerman. the defense called the defendant's mother, gladys zimmerm zimmerman. >> do you know whose voice that the background? >> yes, sir. >> and whose voice was that? >> my son, george. >> and are you certain of that? >> because he's my son. >> today, the defense brought back to the stand the lead investigator of the case, chris serino, to testify as to the reaction of trayvon martin's father. detective serino played the recording for tracy martin two days after his death and asked marren if he recognized the voice. >> he looked away and under his breath, as i interpreted it, said no. >> the defense also called to the stand tracy martin, himself. mr. martin's own testimony seemed to contradict officer serino. >> i think the chairs had wheels on them and i kind of pushed away from the -- away from the table and just kind of shook my head and said i can't tell. >> so your words were "i can't tell"? >> something to that effect, but i never said, no, that wasn't my son's voice. >> mr. martin said he listened to the tape again at the sanford mayor's office and played it about 20 times and knew th

george zimmerman trial hear closing arguments this morning from the defense. they're expected to begin libe f yesterday though, prosecuto argued that zimmerm bd assout m confrontationr. 11 women were brutally murdered, many of them sexually assaulted. but with no dna testing in the army '60s, the prime suspect was never prosecuted. more from abc's john schifrin. >> reporter: after nearly 50 years investigators now believe they have dna evidence connecting long-time suspect albert desalvo to the last of the boston strangler slayings. at a press conference thursday, the nephew of that victim, mary sullivan, the 19-year-old found strangled in her boston apartment in 1964 was thankful authorities never gave up looking for the killer. >> i have lived with mary's memory every day. my whole life. and i didn't know, nor did my mother know that other people were living with her memory as well. and it is amazing to me today to understand that people really did care about what happened to my aunt. >> reporter: desalvo confessed to the killings but was never convicted. >> that confession has been the subject of skepticism and controversy from all most the moment it was given.