but and there is a catholic church in georgetown, for example. i can't remember when the first catholic perish starts, but it's not long after the period we talk to. sglrm chuck, plun of the dwegzs. frls and so we have two questions. one, i think, is plaby not quite in your venue but nevertheless, it was called the cheshire cheese because it came from cheshire. so, was it cheddar cheese and wot the relationship between chesire and cheddar cheese in >> i don't know. they both begin with the same letter. it was called a cheshire cheese also, which makes the expression mammoth cheese more pointed. someone went to the trouble to call it mammoth cheese and coin the word. but it came from cheshire and maybe it lasts longer snm? noef and he really has a very important question. he says is that where they came up with the idea of calling the president a bilg cheese? as a way to tease him? >> you would ask that. i don't know where that expression started. i'm probably not the only one going to google after this is over and find out the origins. maybe it i

. >> a former georgetown tennis coach in the college admissions scandal is nearing a plea deal.cutors say he accepted $3 million in bribes from parents trying to get unqualified children into georgetown. a jury is seated in the sex trafficking trial of r. kelly. seven men and five women selected to decide the fate of kelly accused of recruiting women and under age girls for sex. opening statements next wednesday. >> reaction pouring in after the big decision by jeopardy. game show chosen two hosts to replace alex trebek. >> call it a daily double. who are your new jeopardy hosts? current jeopardy executive producer. who will take on the daily syndicated show. and big bang theory star. and neuroscientists in real life. tapped to host jeopardy prime time. and spin off series. >> it's a tremendously bizarre and humbling and surreal experience. >> reacting on instagram today highly anticipated announcement. nine months after of the passing of trebek. who hosted the show in 1984. over the past few months the sho featuring a rea rea r guest hosts. >> i really have great respect for ev

a professor of international affairs in islamic studies at georgetown university joins us.hank you for being with us. can you give us an idea as to who are isis-k? >> basically, isis-k has been part of, as it were, the islamic state. what we have seen is that although the islamic state has seen major expansion in the middle east and whatnot, it has continued into africa all the way into south and southeast asia. they are not welcomed by the taliban. although they have evoke the islamic movement, it is very different. they believehey should be leading all muslims and the taliban should be committed to the spread and of taking back territories from, if you will, towers. they look down upon the taliban for not engaging in the kind of expansion and their use of violence. the taliban in contrast primarily -- this is in comparison to the way they were 20 years ago and the way they are today, they are not interested in expanding and moving in those directions. as your reporters rightly said, they also want to project and connect with the international community, so the question is

and we have co-authors from northwestern and georgetown. so based on a series of papers published in peer-reviewed like economics and health policy journals to standardize the data set. so what did we find? so just a brief overview of the book is divided into first part during the free period. in texas is one of the states will have a comprehensive database. menus that to study the issues and then in part two after tort reform is enacted and then in part three but it's only one state. so national mall died on - - data studies some of the same questions we studied in part two and then part four is summary and conclusions i want the real issue that physicians are concerned with. marked by sudden and dramatic increases of malpractice and this is the percentage increase every major medical practice ensure at the beginning of the latest malpractice crisis. and you can see a dramatic increase talking 100 percent increase over a relatively short period of time and that causes real problems and then they go up by 100 percent so this is an average i

they're an assistant professor at georgetown university. thank you. thank you very much. a prosecutor imagine tina has indicted the president for a birthday celebration, violating code 19 rules o bitter if an end is event, did not abide by regulations imposed on the time population. theresa by reports from want to say that it was one of his quickness locked downs in the world. security forces were deployed on the streets of argentina to prevent the spread of covered 19 but a few of the videos that have just been revealed show president l. america for amanda and his wife. have you as john? yes, we're not respecting it. now. a prosecutor in argentina has accused rested in tremendous of breaking the quarantine and celebrating a party at the presidential residence you. but if you think that the president is an expert in lying, he said there were no parties in the picture appeared. they said it was a fake. second picture, they admitted there was a party and then he blamed his wife and hearty every day. he changed his version last week about the fundamentalist apologize for the

he's now artist and resident at georgetown. he depicted jefferson's study here which is this right here, it's the southwest corner of what is today the state dining room. you can see that it's filled with paraphernalia, of interests, studies. the idea here he wanted to de-politicize his dinners. he hates conflict. he's very much in conflict avoidance. no politics could be discussed at's dinner table, and my friend -- by trying to defuse the small conflicts that might erupt for members of both parties at the same table, you may in fact a pause fostered a deep division. one should note that, jefferson's invitations to dinner were sent out under thomas jefferson, not president of the united states. the idea of being that he wanted to create this image, that was more democratic, that was there to gather friends, not a political meeting anymore. but in fact, inviting people under his own name and the name of his office as president was an excuse to -- and that is why he ends up being able to invite only federalists all of the time,

the white house in a quiet dinner then go out, shake hands and talk to a bunch of rich folks from georgetown so he got a bad shake in general. you mentioned james was a very young man in his 20s for the first two years in the administration he was the chief speech writer. his real ambition was to break into magazine journalism. after two years he left his very first piece with staff writer of the atlantic was long, long exposÉ entitled the passionless presidency. it was sort of psychological investigation of jimmy carter. rather thin in my opinion. it did, as you say, did real damage for the carter presidency at a moment in 1979 when he was facing long gas lines and a lot of criticism over many issues. that piece gave a green light to the rest of the press that it was okay to dump on the carter presidency. there was something wrong was suggested per jody powell, and carter himself regarded the article as a stab in the back of betrayal of a one-time insider. it's a colorful story. james has made some good points about some of the failings of the carter presidency. there's problems giving a sp

walker was a very enthusiastic promoter, he had come to georgetown in the 1780s from scotland and he was a tobacco merchant but obviously interested in a lot of things because he's the one apparently commissioned the first map to be given to george washington showing what was possible between georgetown and harrisburg across the river and show a large city was possible so he may be the one who introduced the idea, george washington having a larger city. he was friends with them and there were gases that he may have recruited him and invest here are plantation nipsco but he wasn't scrapped 728, he did not buy them directly from the public sale. later he was an original investor in the first branch bridge done at the avenue early on. now we go back to this 1801 map and i marked this particular location, that's where the george walker bought his. he wanted to build a hotel near the capitol so he bought three lots there you can see by 1801 street was in his lot but he built the building and was known originally as walker's hotel. he opened in 1796, much earlier than the other things we t

he had come to georgetown in the 1780s from scotland. he was a tobacco merchant but interested in a lot of things. he condition the first map to be given to george washington showing what was possible between georgetown and hurdles berg and showed a large city was possible here. he may be the one who introduced the idea to george washington with a larger city. he was friends with kraut i may have recruited him to come and invest here. he bought three lots at public sale in the square at 728 which is the one we are talking about. he did not buy them directly he bought them in the sale. he later was also an original investor in the first eastern branch of bridge the one that was done at kentucky avenue early on. now go back to this 1801 map of marked this particular location. that's the lot george walker bought. he wanted to build a hotel near the capitol. so he bought three lots there. you can see by 1801 the street is in front of his lot but he has built his building was known originally as walker's hotel. he opened in 1796 this is a muc

in government from georgetown university. before becoming a professor and was life in the news media and elections before u.s. and international audiences. a prolific scholar has written seven books including president of communications, nightly news night man. or in chief and his most recent recent -- he's also the author of crawford of dozens of articles in the presidency the mask media u.s. public opinion in virginia politics. his political commentaries appeared in a wide range of media including their times the "washington post" cbs news hour "politico" c-span and cbc world. he is currently professor of political science and international affairs and director of the center for leadership and the media studies at the university of washington. he is also took courses in political science journalism at georgetown university yale university and george mason university. top their friends worth has an excellence in teaching being the 2017 recipient and the virginia outstanding faculty award from the cal state higher education i

professor david is at doctor professor of health law and policy at georgetown university of law centerunct scholar with cato institute in addition to co-authoring the book entitled medical malpractice vacation, the focus of today's discussion. professor is the author of two other pieces of medicare co-author of overcharge, why america's paid too much for healthcare. he teaches or has taught healthcare regulation and procedural and insurance and medical malpractice of law and economicss and responsibility ad tax policy. also with us, doctor richard anderson for more than 15 years, doctor anderson has been chairman and ceo of the doctor's company. doctors company is the nation's largest physician owned medical malpractice in sugar insurer. san diego, past chairman of the department of medicine at scripps memorial hospital where he served as senior oncologist 18 years. doctor anderson iser theve editf medical malpractice. welcome to you both and we will hear from doctor hyman with the response followed by doctor anderson. >> thank you for that generous seductions thank you for doing this

which i find hilarious because all the videos now are from georgetown, they are all stupid and i wents true. those people are 18, they all exist at 28, 38, 48, 58, those are the people electing our presidents every four years. their parents are, their older siblings are, people are just as disconnected and just as tuned out because in this country, poverty comes with a cell phone. we are an amazing place, we have prosperity on our down years, we are mad because we are buying a 3,000 square-foot house instead of 4,000 square-foot house, this is an amazing place to live there and we need to tune in more and hold people accountable. 20 years in a war i'm not going to give that one up anytime soon, i apologize, a little bit of a personal rub, i'll explain later. >> greg: i think young people, they claim they like to stand out in a simple way. i like to dye my hair blue come i'm to get a nose ring, like that is a really brave choice. they just want to blend when it comes to ideas, they don't want to stand out at all. it's a very interesting contrast. they just want to say the right thing.

while at georgetown he was editor in chief of the georgetown law journal. mr paul is married with three children. thank you for joining us today. chair powell. >> thank you gigi and thank you scott. thanks to everyone for your work and bringing us together today, particularly the economic education group and congratulations on the launch of economic education month as well. we're very proud of this initiative and looking forward to what you've got in store for us in october it's a pleasure to be here, virtually all be a different format than we're all used to. i guess the downside is that we don't get to connect in quite the same way we do in person. the upside is that we can include a lot more people and in addition we can wear more comfortable clothes which we all appreciate. so before i turn to your questions, i want to say just a few words to recognize the incredibly powerful for work that you all do as teachers now. it would be important to mention this in any year, but especially now in the 17th month month of our upended reality, it's very important

professor david [inaudible] professor of health law and policy at georgetown university law and adjunct at the cato institute in addition to co-authoring the book in the title medical malpractice litigation and is the focus of today's discussion is the author that led to other pieces of medicare and co-author of overcharged why americans pay too much for healthcare. he teaches or has taught the healthcare regulation engine insurance and medical malpractice, economics and professional responsibility and tax policy. also with us is doctor richard anderson for more than 15 years doctor anderson has been the chair man and ceo of the doctors company, the nation's largest physician owned medical malpractice insurer he was a professor of medicine at the university of california san diego and past chairman of the department of medicine and scripps memorial hospital where he served as the senior oncologist h for 18 years. doctor anderson is the editor of medical malpractice. so welcome to you both. with the response to be followed by doctorhe anderson. >> thank you for the generous introduction

which i find hilarious because all the videos now are from georgetown, they are all stupid and i wentthose people are 18, they all exist at 28, 38, 48, 58, those are the people electing our presidents every four years. their parents are, their older siblings are, people are just as disconnected and just as tuned out because in this country, poverty comes with a cell phone. we are an amazing place, we have prosperity on our down years, we are mad because we are buying a 3,000 square-foot house instead of 4,000 square-foot house, this is an amazing place to live there and we need to tune in more and hold people accountable. 20 years in a war i'm not going to give that one up anytime soon, i apologize, a little bit of a personal rub, i'll explain later. >> greg: i think young people, they claim they like to stand out in a simple way. i like to dye my hair blue come i'm to get a nose ring, like that is a really brave choice. they just want to blend when it comes to ideas, they don't want to stand out at all. it's a very interesting contrast. they just want to say the right thing. >> take

there is a catholic church in georgetown, for example. i can't remember when the first catholic parish starts, but it's not long after this period that we're talking about. so at some point they do move out of the capitol building. i don't know when. >> chuck, one of the questions that, you know -- we have a couple folks who are still interested in this cheese now. and so we have two questions, one, i think is maybe not quite in your venue, but nevertheless, it was called the chester cheese because it came from chester. was it cheddar cheese? what's the relationship between the two? >> i don't know. it begins with the same three letters. it makes the -- the expression mammoth cheese all the more pointed. as i said, to coin the word around the same time. but it was also known as the cheese because it came from chester and it was cheddar. that's all i really know about it. maybe cheddar lasts longer? maybe that's why they opted for cheddar. i don't know. >> your friend from durham has been enjoying the talk and sends you his greetings. but

professor david hyman is a doctor, i ginsberg professor of health law and policy at georgetown university law center. an adjunct scholar with the cato institute in addition to co-authoring the book that's entitled medical malpractice litigation and that the focus of today's discussion professor is the author of two other pieces of medicare and co-author of covid charged white americans pay too much for healthcare. he teaches or has taught the healthcare regulation in several procedure in insurance and medical malpractice of lawn economics and professional responsibility and tax policy. also with us doctor richard e anderson for more than 15 years doctor anderson has been the chairman and ceo of the doctors company. the doctors company is the nation's largest physician owned medical bill proctors ensure peer-reviewed the clinical professor of medicine at the university california in the past chairman of the department of medicine at scripps memorial hospital where he served as senior oncologist for 18 years doctor anderson is editor of medical malpractice a physician's assortment. doctor h

professor david hyman is a professor of health law and policy at georgetown university law center and an adjunct scholar with the cato institute. in addition coauthoring the book it's entitled "medical malpractice litigation" that's the focus of today's discussion. he is the author of two other pieces and two author of overcharged, why americans pay too much for healthcare. he teaches or has taught healthcare regulation and civil procedure and insurance and medical malpractice, law economics, professional responsibility and tax policy. also with us is dr. richard e. anderson. for more than 15 years, he's been the chairman and ceo of the doctors company. the doctors company is the nation's largest physician-owned medical malpractice insurer. he was a clinical professor of medicine at the university of california san diego and is past chairman of the department of medicine at scripps memorial hospital, where he served as senior oncologist for 18 years. he is the editor of medical malpractice of physicians, a source book. dr. hyman and anderson, welcome to both of you. we will first hear

professor david hyman is a doctor, ginsburg professor of health georgetown. institute in addition to co-authoring the back "medical malpractice litigation" and that's the focus of the discussion. and he's a co-author of "overcharged, why americans pay too much for health care", he teaches or has taught regulation and civil procedure and insurance and medical malpractice, professional responsibility and tax policy. also with us is dr. richard e anderson. for more than 15 years, dr. anderson has been the chairman and ceo of the doctor's company. the doctor's company is the nation's largest physician-owned medical malpractice insurer. he was a clinical professor of medicine at the university of california san diego and is past chairman of the department of medicine at scripps memorial hospital and served for senior oncologist for 18 years. he's the editor of medical malpractice, a physician's source book. so dr. hyman, dr. anderson, welcome to you both and we'll first hear from dr. hyman with the response to be followed by dr. anderson. dr. hyman. >> thank you f

i discovered this when i was teaching a class at georgetown and one of my students is in the audience. as i was teaching this class on the history of religion, i discovered that jefferson had cited this early church father tertullian and the phrase that he cites he quotes if in latin. it's a fundamental human right, a privilege of nature that every man should worship according to his own convictions. one man's religion neither harms nor helps another man. it is no part of religion to compel religion to which free will ask not force should lead us those words the church father had written not in the 17th century or the 16th century, but in the early third century. and tertullian wrote those 18 latin words because he was inspired by 13 hebrew words. it was because of his reflection on those words that he came to believe tertullian that it was an essential inherent part of the way that we were created by god that we would be free, and of course the 13 hebrew words i'm referring to are the words of genesis chapter 1, verse 27, and god created man in his own image. in the image of god he c

i'm sure that's an enormous crisis in georgetown. what i think is a crisis is making putin stronger and russia stronger and weakening europe, weakening our allies, and weakening america. and because biden's multibillion dollar gift to putin weakened america, strengthened russia and undermined our u.s. national security, i object. the presiding officer: objection is heard. mr. murphy: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from connecticut. mr. murphy: mr. president, because china is absolutely celebrating every single day that our corps of diplomats is dramatically and dangerously understaffed because of these holds on the president's nominees, i ask that it be in order to make the same request with respect to executive calendar number 330, mary catherine phee, a career member of the senior foreign service to be a member of the board of directors for a term expiring september 27, 2021. the presiding officer: is there objection? mr. cruz: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from texas. mr. cruz: reserving the

. >> reporter: georgetown professor marc howard, a leading advocate for felon voting rights, says it'sjustice. 1 in 16 black american adults is disenfranchised because of a conviction, a rate 3.7 times higher than among non-blacks. >> if you think about the broader context in history of the struggle for the right to vote in this country, incarcerated people was always a group that was left out of that progression. >> reporter: he's now the first incarcerated american elected to office with votes from incarcerated peers. how can you represent a group of people, community, when you're cut off from a big segment of that community? >> a lot of meetings. a lot of engagement has taken place over zoom. so now as commissioner one of the things i do have access to is a computer. >> reporter: so you're zooming from inside the cell block. >> i'm inside an office. yes, i do. yes. >> reporter: his district includes d.c.'s jail, a nearby women's shelter, and this luxury apartment complex he's never seen. you oversee everything from liquor license approvals to sidewalk repair to public safety. can yo

we're 3rd professor of micro biology and immunology at georgetown university medical center. she joins us live from alexandria, virginia via skype. hello there. julie, thanks for joining us. what kind of concrete commitments do we made from j. 20 late is to reach base vaccine target support nation. there's really 2 needs. the 1st is to mobilize vaccine doses through mechanisms like the kofax facility, which is a public private partnership. coordinated to w h o, to get vaccine doses to where they are urgently needed right now. and low and lower middle income countries in those countries about 85 percent of people are still not vaccinated at all. and if we want to stop the spread of variance like the delta variant, we really need to get vaccines to those countries. and then the 2nd thing is beyond just the vaccine doses themselves to support for the logistics to actually see those vaccines. not just delivered to the countries, but actually to get everything in place from the the workforce to the syringes and the cold chain support that's needed to make sure that those joseph ge

she now teaches a course on afghanistan's political history at georgetown, she thinks a series of missteps from president biden, including announcing a pullout from afghanistan during the taliban spring offensive. emboldened the regime to take over how and why at this, you know the 11th hour we are trying so desperately to grasp at straws and pull in flight and get people out and approved visas. i think that's something that we really have to assess. you know what could have been done better for hayward's mayor. pro tempore, a official a hob that means holding the taliban and surrounding nations accountable through sanctions. not necessarily with a military presence. the influences of the surrounding countries. asia, india, china, pakistan, russia, iran does affect the united states long term and that is the big concern that i have. mojave is the first afghan american woman to hold public office in the you know. united states. she knows afghans want peace and is holding out hope it can still be achieved. we have to maintain hope that there is a brighter future for afghanistan because we do

rachel: how does that make you feel as a georgetown grad?e individuals and it was amazing. that's not the traditional program. will they are probably 18. i give them all the grace in the world. i think they are going to grow up and be fabulous americans. there are 28-year-old, 38-year-olds, 48-year-olds and 58-year-olds. these are the people who voted these people into office. they are the ones that can't answer those questions. those are the americans i expect more of. i don't mean that in any condescending way. i just said it a few minutes ago. be involved, learn, care about these issues even if you don't feel like they affect your house because they affect all of us. will: that's a good point those kids will grow into 30, 40, and 50-year-olds. to your point joey, 30, 40 and 50-year-olds can't answer the questions in same way still have that same certainty started somewhere. >> and when they come at you with some type of vindictive nature like they know more than you and that you are morally wrong for disagreeing with them, if that's what

political manipulation. aaron, sol as the director of the elizabeth our griffin bio safety program at georgetown university. and she's called on global corporation to understand where the outbreak of code 1900 started. it's very challenging, i think without having transparency from the government of china and having access to bills, clinical samples, material, and data from early on in the outbreak, it would be very challenging to be conclusive on the origins of the outbreak. i think unfortunately, this outbreak in this pandemic has become exceptionally politicized. and i think what's important right now is to stop laying blame and to stop politicizing the issues and really get at hand at what we need to find out in order to stop this outbreak. and to stop this pandemic, and that's going to require global cooperation and global collaboration. and primarily right now that, that train transparency of understanding, again, where this outbreak originated. i think what's important to consider is, what are we going to do with that information? once we have it, understand the origins will help us think

julie fisher is an associate research professor of microbiology and immunology at georgetown university medical center. she says it's not even clear yet. if posters are needed, you know, the data is still coming in and we are learning a great deal. but i think the early data are suggesting that booster shots can offer some protection if the anybody response to the virus that is listed by the facts. in speaking to wayne, particularly people who are immunocompromised, however, that's a pretty small fraction overall of the global need right now for a vaccination. and the concern is that using the, the vaccine supplies that we have now as the w, i chose, director general said to offer an incremental amount of protection to vulnerable populations. in very wealthy countries could take away the doses that we need to, to vaccinate equally at risk people in the world low and middle income countries. so it's a question of trading off that, that promise of incremental protection for one vulnerable population to the very basic preventive protection for a population. in other countries, we're seeing

judge the all their actions called i was bringing that he's saying he's an adjunct professor at georgetown university in washington, dc on the author of the islamist join me now from london by a scott good talking with us on the program. mr. said before we talk about of chemist on specifically you have very intimate details and knowledge of being in islamists being part of a group that a like thought him. and in this particular case, you know, in your experience with it sort of like saying that it seen it got the t shirt, but it didn't quite fit. maybe maybe to some people. but if the t shirt did not fit, we wouldn't have a younger generation of thought about now coming forward, trying to clean the t shirt. so yes, on the one hand, lots of organizations and individuals have rightly jettisoned isn't the msm and discard the t shirt. but i think lots of people are coming forward and buying and islamist t shirt and what's going on in afghanistan now is perhaps the most recent example of that from within any sort of group puts from your own experience. is it because there's too many cheats, too

journalist formerly with the washington post and has taught at the university of michigan, princeton and georgetown. he is going to speak to us this evening for a little bit about his book and we will answer questions later in the program. i do want to alert you that this coming thursday we have another author and he's written a book called when truth matters about the may 4th incident at kenneth state. and monday, june 7, we have [inaudible] and then the author of the book in the small hours. his conversations with frank sinatra. but i want to return to tonight's program and author michael dobbs who is going to talk about his book "king richard." michael, what can you tell us about king richard? >> thank you very much. for those of you that haven't seen it, this is a copy of my book which came out last week. it's king richard nixon and watergate in american tragedy. and it has, as you can see, a rather dark picture of richard nixon on the front cover. i will explain in a little bit the structure of the book and why we chose to call it king richard. i will tell you a little bit about myself and why

professor david hyman is a doctor, ginsberg professor of health law and policy georgetown university in addition to co-authoring a book entitled medical malpractice litigation and the focus of today's discussion, he's the author of two other peoples medicare and co-author of overcharged from a white americans pay too much for healthcare. medical malpractice, one economicspr and responsibility x policy. more than 15 years doctor anderson has been chairman and ceo of the doctors company, the nation's largest physician owned physician owned practice. university of california, san diego and past chairman of the department of medicine at scripps memorial hospital where he served as senior oncologist for 18 years. doctor anderson is the ethicist of medical malpractice. welcome to you both, but first hear from doctor hyman in response, then followed by doctor anderson. >> thank you for that generous introduction and thank you for doing this and thanks to doctor anderson as well, he's indicated to me we have significant disagreements moving forward and hearing from the audience but i can sha

formerly with of the "washington post" and he has taught at the university of michigan, princeton and georgetown. he is going to speak to us this evening for a little bit about his book and we will answer questions later in the book excuse me, later in the program. i do want to alert you to the fact that this t coming thursday we have another offer and he has written a book called when truth matters of the may 4th incident at kent state. and monday june 7th we have the book june 10th we have the author of the book in the small shours, his conversations with frank sinatra. but i want to return to tonight's program and author michael dobbs who will talk about his book king richard. to those of you that haven't seen it, this is a copy of my book that came out last week. between an american tragedy and it has as you can see a rather dark picture of richard nixon on the front cover. i'm going to explain in a little bit the structure of the book and why i chose to call it king richard. but first of all i will tell you a little bit about myself and why i chose to write this book which is usually the fi

his work at johns hopkins and georgetown has been noted for decades. i want to talk, dr. the thing that comes up in every conversation. the privilege versus the right, on whether it is drunk driving, having a beer, or in this case, on vaccination. our unvaccinated -- are unvaccinated people of a right or a privilege? which is it? >> it is certainly not a right. it is a really important question. nobody should be shaming or blaming people who are unvaccinated. that is unproductive. it's not going to change hearts and minds. you can do anything that you want to do for your own health and safety. but you don't have the right to put someone else at risk. you don't have the right to go unvaccinated or unmasked in a classroom. it is clear to me that no one has the right not to get a vaccine unless they will be hiding themselves away and not exposing others to infection. tom: the courts seem to be siding, -- citing cruise ships, does that surprise you? dr. gostin: it doesn't. we have a conservative supreme court and judiciary. you can never be sure. but the law seems to be rock

yvonne: joining us now, professor of security studies with georgetown university. thank you for joining us. at this point, i'm just wondering -- we had some conflicting messages from the president talking about how they are sticking with this deadline to get everyone out, but then they also admit it is impossible to do so as well. what comes next? what can the u.s. do? >> i'm a pessimist about this. i think biden had a lot of opportunities to do things differently, and he chose to not do anything differently. under the best case scenario, we would still be leaving hundreds of thousands of afghans who had worked with us behind, and this is obviously not the best in area. it is quite frustrating to see biden kind of follow through with what trump had laid out. i think many people may not remember or did not know at all that this was something that died in very much wanted to do when he was the vice president, but he had essentially been ignored. major deviation from what he wanted to do when he was vice president was also disappointing, that he at least wanted to lea