zero run through these woods or these beaches carrying bags various types of pollutions from georgia pacific client and thus through a process includes the use this charges to the air and into the water of a lot of nasty chemicals the georgia pacific robert greenwald joins me now he is a filmmaker activist and founder of brave new films dot org robert welcome thank you tom what got you started on this particular story. this particular story was a focus for natalie and jeff and joseph for about three months because what we've been trying to do with our koch brothers expose has been put a personal face on it you know it's too easy for all of us to kind of debate ideology or debate policy and it becomes removed from the very real lives of human beings who day to day pay a price for policy what the government's doing or not doing and in this case what the koch brothers are doing with their incredible passion for more and more money for profit at any price and for to hell with any kind of protection for ordinary citizens so when natalie heard about this story we decided the media but it took her

people in this in the town talk to us as the experts explain to us comes about because of the georgia pacific factory and think about it think about the billions that the koch's are spending to influence politicians to weaken an already weak e.p.a. to change the rules to change the regulations so it literally becomes ok for the cokes to be poisoning and ultimately on camera these people talk about their dying and their relatives die has anybody tried to do anything about the the the alleged abuses in the standings his people. well have been some efforts on and off and i hope that this video will help them get some protection if it's possible to to shame a coax if it's possible to put pressure on the e.p.a. if it's possible so that people will come forward and say we're going to try to stop this but when you come face to face that is look tom you know we live in a in the big cities but when you come face to face with a very small town you see the poverty and you see this fear this fear about speaking out against the employer in town and then terrible fear when your relatives are dying in front

but tell you right now about georgia-pacific. i mean, they're the greatest company for us in the world and one of our biggest supporters, but the day before i was supposed to sign the contract with them, we had a story about toilet paper being bad for you, which i still don't understand by the way editorially. but they happen to be the largest toilet paper manufacturer in the world. not good timing. but nonetheless, they accepted that they didn't want to be with someone that was incredible and so they were benefited at the end of the day. so the other thing about this model is that it is not just its exclusivity. it is not advertising in the traditional sense. so i gave you this example. this is the unit used by sponsors. whether this is five interactive boxes. these are about two or three minutes long. they're not commercials. they're much our educational and informative. like coke uses bears, but this is a climate change program. get it back i think is a program for the boys and girls club. these are the products they have it d

i'll tell you the truth now about georgia pacific, they are the greatest company for us in the world and biggest supporter, but the day before i was supposed to sign the contact with them, we had a story about toilet paper being bad for you, which i still don't understand by the way, editorially, but they happened to be the largest toilet paper manufacturer in the world, not good times, but nonetheless they admitted they didn't want to be with someone whostles not -- who was not credible. the good thing about the model is it's not just this exclusivity. it is not advertising in the traditional sense, so i give you this example. this is the unit by sponsors, and what it is is five video and interactive boxes. these are two or three minutes long. they are not commercials. they are really much more educational and informative. like coke uses theirs for -- this is a climate change program, give it back, i think is a program for the boys and girls club. this is products they have that don't have sweeteners in it and hydration calculator, and then there's a connection to facebook and then