and also geothermal, the geothermal field, where the injection has resulted in an earthquake, and a few others that do -- that you probably have heard. so it's not a new phenomenon. we understand why this happens fairly well. it's just actually very difficult to predict when it's going to happen, and the research program we're working on is what to do about it when it does happen. many of these, as you see, are related to the injection activity, and that's what i'm going to focus my remarks on tonight. those activities that humans are involved with and entail are -- involve food injection in depth or waste, liquid disposal of all types. disposal into wells and earth. geo they we geothermal production, as i mentioned. and these three production activities -- that doug described, tight shale gas, tight sand, coal bed, methane, can involve fracking. and the associated need to dispose of formation water, fluids that dennis described. also, in the future, sitting out there as carbon dioxide sequestration, there are some pilot projects now, but should carbon dioxide geologic sequestration bec

but to balance that mix of power over time, investments in geothermal exploration, investments in finding the right kind of responsible hydro power projects that can be done with minimum impact on the environment, these are some of the issues that we are helping these countries with the long-range planning, finding ways in which you can set the goals today, set the ground today so that ten years from now you end up with that kind of mix. >> let me go back for a minute to the question. i think i answered nancys, what is the overall. really, the aspiration is about a 30% penetration of renewables by 2030. not 50, but 30% the overall penetration. there is another point that i think just to go to vijay talking about the financing of this. the u.n. is at its best when it's setting norms. not in the operational sense, but is setting enormous, which is why the process, the process of engaging countries, getting agreements in a place like rio, providing those enormous, therefore provide a base against which groups, nongovernmental organizations, states, political parties, you know, can hold gover

japanese companies does have technology for the geothermal power. so if we deregulation substantially, i think there's a lot of prospect for increasing the geothermal power. and of course japan has a deep sea, so that utilizing the differences of the temperature, we could have sea power, as well. >> professor, thank you so much for being here with us on the "worldwide exchange." thank you so much for your insight. >>>. >> great interview. interesting insights. we'll come back to it. first, manufacturing pmis have surprised to the up side. sterling broken through 1.60 against the dollar. manufacturing p mi-52.1 in march. consensus was for a number of 50.7. so in a big contrast to what we saw with eurozone pmis, uk manufacturing pmis going up, they're in expansion territory, the new orders index, this is another big contra against the eurozone, new orders index 52.7 in will march. 50.5 in pfebruary highest since march last year. shows input prices index highest since august 2011. so the pmi pointing they say to 0.3% quarter to quarter manufacturing gr

virtually every caribbean country could be completely energy dependent with solar, wind, geothermal, and west to energy facilities. they could run all their cars on biofuels made in the brazilian system, where you get with sugarcane 9.3 gallons of fuel for every gallon of oil required to produce it. it would change the future of the caribbean, our neighbors, our friends, our partners, and it could be led by american technology and american companies if we could work the financing out. one of the things i plan to spend a lot of time on in the next ten years. but it's just one example. if we want to do this, given their economic circumstances, even the american jurisdictions in puerto rico and the virgin islands, if we're going to do this, we've got to work the financing. and i could give you 50 other examples. so for those of you who are here from america, whether you're republicans, democrats, or independents, i urge you to ask the congress to reauthorize this at the higher level. for those of you from other countries, i urge you to continue to work to build the kind of trading and i

geothermal powered will be about 34 cents. the panel is to hold another meeting on friday to compile the formal plan. >>> accusing the south korean steel maker of improperly acquiring the japanese firm's technology. nippon steel is seeking around $1.2 billion in damages, mainly from posco in a lawsuit filed with the tokyo district court. the japanese firm says it has been asking posco to stop making steel products that are used in transformers. nippon steel believes posco has been producing them using the japanese firm's technology which was illicitly obtained through a former engineer at the japanese steelmaker. nippon steel says it took the legal action as it saw no other way to resolve the dispute. it's also demanding that posco stop production and sales of the product in question. posco says it's looking into nippon steel's claims. >>> thousands of people from japan's farming sector rallied in tokyo. they're urging the government not to take part in the talks under the free trade deal. the main organizer says more than 3,0

renewables like solar wind and geothermal, opening up a new chapter that had been closed for such a long time on nuclear, biorefineries where we now have the first four of those commercial refineries where we are going to see advanced bio fuels. but it's an all of the above energy strategy, and that's what we need to do is to stay the course in order to get us to a place where the american people are not subjected to the pain of the ups and downs that we've seen in the united states for the last 40 years. >> are gas prices out of control? will they ever reseed. >> we had someone here who said they visited greece and it was at $9 per gallon. are we headed in that direction? >> you know, we do not control the price of oil. i check the price of oil every day because i care and i know that it is a -- it's a painful time for the american people. i don't think anyone can speculate with the oil prices and gas price because they're set on the global economy. what we're seeing today are implementation of unrest in the middle east and iran which disrupt the markets and allow the futures markets to

we have geothermal. we have -- we have certainly solar and wind, but they're a tiny traction. we have bdear and so forth, so we don't have to pick a winner or loser of the power sector, which is the primary prepulse capability, which i think and bob lutz knows more about this than i'll ever know, pu i @hi that the trajectory of the battery density and the price and range of the vehicles in a few years are going to be cost competitive on their own. but there is no competitive technology that can fight the lithium ion technology. >> over to general kelly of the question of movement of technology in a battery sector where it's going. >> well, anyone who's worked with electric vehicles or work ed in the battery industry knows that there are significant, significant breakthroughs in the wings both at the national leve qniversity and a lot of private start-up companies and the work is concentrated to some extent on the cathodes, by improving the officialsy, you could probably double the efficiency. but also on the horizon is is something called lithium sulphur, which is about four y

and build modular zero energy affordable home powered by a solar array and heated and cooled by geothermal heat pump. even more impressive is that built the home of sight in the hangar at the airport in milton and transported it in three modules and along with volunteers put it on -- assembled on-site in one remarkable september date. as a result of his efforts the family which of the bill that eventually purchased a home is on a new and more hopeful path. not only did they pay less in monthly mortgage payments than they used to pay to live in slum rental conditions, but they have virtually no utility expenses. money that used to evaporate through the walls of the leaky rental and find its way ultimately to the coffers of the virginia power is now being set aside into their children's college savings account. i could go on and on about john and his many accomplishments and words. i could talk about a finalist for the 2009 un habitat award or how the initiative was a recipient of the u.s. green building council excellence in green building curriculum. i could also listed as many teaching an

and china is very interested and resources including potentially seafood in the case of iceland geothermalenergy and various other goods and services in the region certainly what is happening over the past few days has been very significant for the trade in both countries not only is china very interested in developing its partnership with iceland as an energy partner but also. for the arctic in order to transfer also fuels from various markets and using what is turning out to be a very promising new group in china and iceland have been negotiating a free trader in and since two thousand and six. thousand and eight then he became possible that. he was interested in joining the european union which would of course negate any potential free trade agreement with china. has led to you negotiations are now in doubt and china is very interested in pressure i mean free trade talks as one major what it's saying though is that china has really begun to identify iceland as a very important potential arctic harder iceland is not only a very. potentially important partner economically but it's also. r

several arctic resources including potentially seafood in the case of iceland geothermal energy and various other goods and services in the region so yes it is very possible as you just said there are some countries that are interested in corporation with china. but there are some countries that actually might blog and stop chinese interest there for example norway now is that a possibility or is china too powerful and rich to be stuck. well i don't believe. norway is interested in kind of hiring the current diplomatic in-house between it and china to the arctic council i don't believe that there is an attempt to try to get there there is however been some problems of the kind of downgrading of diplomatic ties between china and norway over the past almost two years now so it is possible that this might play into the tensional observer status for china but so far there hasn't been any sign one way or another that these two issues might be tied together ok martin danes see electro before university wellington thanks very much indeed for sharing your use of us here in the program. thank you ve

geothermal, the geysers geothermal field where the injection of fluid to increase production of geothermal energy led to earth i can quake of 4.6. and it is not a new that mom that. we understands why this happens very well. it is actually very difficult to predict when this is going to happen and research problem working on what to do about it when it does happen. many of these, as you see are related to the injection activity and that's what i'm going to focus my remarks on tonight. those activities that humans are involved with and entail involve fluid injection at depth are the waste liquid disposal of all types, disposal into wells into the earth. geothermal production as i pensioned and these three production activities, enhanced production activities doug described. tight shale, tight-sand, coal-bed methane can involve fracking and associated need to dispose the formation water, fluids that dennis described. also in the future sitting out there is carbon dioxide sequestration. there are some pilot projects now but should carbon dioxide geologic sequestration become a big activity in

money wouldn't buy electricity directly but would help pay for wind farm solar power plants and geothermals for 20%, that will rise to 33% by 2020. >>> an herb may be powerful weapon against prostate cancer. researchers studied the primary chemical in oregano. scientists aren't sure how it does this, previous research has shown eating pizza may cut the risk of developing some cancers mostly attributeed to lycopenes which you find in tomato sauce. >>> sticky situation for president obama while he was chatting with college students in colorado. >>> a young woman apologized after accidentally spilling yogurt on to the president's pants as he mingled with students outside a bar in boulder. he took it in stride telling her now you've got quite a story to tell. he spoke with students on a proposal to delay a jump in interest rates on student loans. >> wouldn't want to ask her to pay for his dry cleaning bill. >>> just ahead, the discovery off the sonoma county coast that has deputies guarding the bodega bay shoreline and waiting for day >> she calls it 18 hellish years. >> reporter: in just a fe

strategy that, yes, understand orland gas as part of the enzi feature, and renewable like solar, wind, geothermal, an opening in a chapter that had been closed for such a long time on nuclear. bio refineries, we have the first four of the commercial ones that we will see advanced biofuels. but it is and all of the above energy strategy. that is what we need to do, stay the course and order to get us to place where the american people are not subjected to the pain of the ups and downs that we have seen in the united states for the last four years. >> our gas prices out of control? will they ever received? someone here said they visited greece and it was at $9 a gallon. are we headed in that direction? >> you know, we cannot control the price of oil. i checked the price of oil every day because i care. it is a painful time for the american people. i don't think anyone can speculate what can happen with respect to oil and gas prices because they are set on the global economy. what we see happening today are the influencing -- influences first of unrest in places like the middle east and iran, which

we have authorized 29 -- utility skills on geothermal lands. i have been there and seen these projects rising out of the desert. they will make believers out of skeptics that we can catch the power of the sun. these projects that are built will provide over 6500 megawatts of clean power, over 2.3 million homes will benefit, and it will create thousands of jobs as we grasp the new energy frontier. we also have approved cape wind in the department of the interior. even more importantly, we have done on the atlantic and places on the pacific, working with the governors of those states, we have from the ground up built an offshore wind leasing program for the united states. none of this would've happened if not for the teams of people we have deployed to help make sure government reviews are coordinated and done in a timely fashion. i am very proud of what we have done in this new energy frontier. and i believe that it will be a lasting legacy for the american people. i begin my remarks today by suggesting that there is a widening gap between the r

. >> they will look to natural gas and cleaner, homegrown energy and win and geothermal, solar and af option. >> coal is brought from the western states, montana and wyoming, and seattle on their way up to canada for export. six new coal terminals are proposed for washington state and oregon to meet the rising coal export demand. half the projects nationwide. in bellingham, washington, s s.s.a. marie wants to build the largest coal terminal at cherry point. advocates says if the u.s. doesn't export coal, canada will, and keeping jobs north of the border. the mayor of ferndale says two oil refineries made the community healthier. >> those are good paying jobs, good workers. those are little league coaches. those are the people that help the high school. they buy our homes. half shop in our grocery stores. >> but the northwest is proud of the green power and composting. washington, oregon are set to close their last coal plants. and environmentalists don't want their coast to be a transit point for coal either. >> this proposition at cherry point is going to turn a town like i said a h

geothermal, hydro and hydro and solar. >> laura: bottom line is we need long-term economic growth for the country. monica, we have to touch on this issue of gas prices. because now we found out that the gas prices and record gas prices in this country now outpace what we saw during the carter years. now, if this is not wanier for mitt romney, i don't know what is. >> yeah, 103% i think increase in gas prices which now surpasses what we saw under jimmy carter right after the oil shocks of the 1970s when we were really at the mercy of opec. so, to have this rise in gas prices, i think, could be politically fatal for barack obama. remember lauer, there are two politically toxic things for any incumbent to face. high unemployment and high gas prices because it pretty much effects every single american. barack obama has both. so he is very vulnerable here. it's just the kind of campaign that mitt romney is going to wage. if is he smart, he will do the things we talked about and win this thing. go. >> give the american people credit, monica as we have seen. >> laura: they love paying more f

there's geothermal heat and cooling to keep the temperature balanced at all times. spray insulation to keep down energy bills, fixtures and appliances that are energy saving, cutting down on energy consumption is a passion for many green advocates, and it's driven a lot of interest in home solar panels. the problem is they're just too expensive for many people. however, photo journalist floyd found a company willing to rent those panels and let the homeowners keep the savings. >> solar power is making power from the sun. it is creating electricity that the sun shines down, converts into electricity in the home and is going to power the home. solar power is green energy because it's basically using no fuel, just takes the power from the sun. it doesn't emit any gases, any carbon dioxide, any pollutants. the sunshine it sends energy through photons. those photons hit the solar panels, convert into electricity. it travels into your electric box. from there, it's powering all of the devices in your home. if you produce more solar than you use, you're going to send a lit

it produces a lot of small quakes and the geothermal power plants.there is also a 3.2 quake near clear lake around 7:15 last night. they are warning that japan faces the risk of another giant tsunami. >> it triggered a tsunami that killed 20,000 people. government commission report now suggests that at that similar magnitude quake would release a tsunami 112 feet high. they predicted 1/2 that size. it is based on research from last year's quake and tsunami along the coast. >>> they are experimenting with a new tornado warning aimed to scare people into seeking shelter. >> people ignored last year's deadly tornado warnings in missouri and alabama. they will describe how much damage a storm can cause. so the message will include phrases like complete destruction to neighborhoods and mass devastation to an area. making it unrecognizable to survivors. >> looking at the live shots. quite different than yesterday. want to check in with rosemary right now. blue skies doesn't mean it is 70 degrees out. >> this is introduce. you may need sunglasses and jack.

geothermal, hydro and hydro and solar. >> laura: bottom line is we need long-term economic growth for the country. monica, we have to touch on this issue of gas prices. because now we found out that the gas prices and record gas prices in this country now outpace what we saw during the carter years. now, if this is not wanier for mitt romney, i don't know what is. >> yeah, 103% i think increase in gas prices which now surpasses what we saw under jimmy carter right after the oil shocks of the 1970s when we were really at the mercy of opec. so, to have this rise in gas prices, i think, could be politically fatal for barack obama. remember lauer, there are two politically toxic things for any incumbent to face. high unemployment and high gas prices because it pretty much effects every single american. barack obama has both. so he is very vulnerable here. it's just the kind of campaign that mitt romney is going to wage. if is he smart, he will do the things we talked about and win this thing. go. >> give the american people credit, monica as we have seen. >> laura: they love paying more f

virtually every caribbean country could be completely energy dependent with solar, wind, geothermal and waste to energy facilities. they could run all their cars on biofuels made in the brazilian system where you get, with sugar cane, 9.3 gallons of fuel for every gallon of oil required to produce it. it would change the future of the caribbean and could be led -- our neighbors, our friends, and our partners -- and it could be lead by american technology and american companies if we could work the financing now. one of the things i plan to spend a lot of time on the next 10 years. but it is just one example. if we were to do this, given their economic circumstances, even the american jurisdictions in puerto rico and the virgin islands, we have got to work the finances. i could give you 50 other examples. so, for those of you who are here from america, whether you're republicans, democrats or independents, i urge you to ask the congress to reauthorize this at a higher level. for those of you from other countries, i urge you to continue to work to build the kind of trading and investing r

the funds that you collect i then used for early adopters you want to put wind or photovoltaic a geothermal heat and, can do that and then get premium for spending their energy. they give more money than the normal electricity. so we put in these feed in tears across europe. in germany especially create hundreds of thousands of jobs overnight. but what is happening now is everyone is trying to feed in their green electricity to the great. the great can't accept electricity easily because the grid is 60 years old, server mechanical, unidirectional caught leaking 20 percent of the electricity just across the transmission line. it's a disgrace. but then we realize we have another problem. some of our regions have become so successful that there 20, 30, 40 percent real electricity. 70 percent green electricity. so what is happening is that because there is no hydrogen storage we are losing three of the four co-ops. in other words, the wind is blowing at night and we needed during the day. so now we realize we have to ratchet up 03. then we realized we were not incentivizing public to for the li

also geothermal. the injection of fluid to enhance the production of geothermal energy has resulted in an earthquake measuring 4.6 and a few others that you probably have heard of. it is not a new phenomenon. we understand why this happens fairly well. it is just actually very difficult to predict what will happen. the research we have been working on is what to do when it does happen. many of these as you can see is related to the injection activity. that is what i will focus my remarks on tonight. those activities that humans are involved with and until -- and entail liquid disposal of all types. geothermal production as i mentioned. these three production activities that doug described -- tight shale gas, ties and, involved cracking and the associated need to dispose of formation water that dennis described. also in the future sitting out there is carbon the oxide's sequestration. there are some pilot projects that should it become a big activity in the future, it has the potential of triggering ea

virtually every caribbean country could be completely energy dependent with solar, wind, geothermal and waste to energy facilities. they could run all their cars on biofuels made in the brazilian system where you get, with sugar cane, 9.3 gallons of fuel for every gallon of oil required to produce it. it would change the future of the caribbean and could be led by american technology and american companies if we could work the financing now. one of the things i plan to spend a lot of time on the next 10 years. but it is just one example. if we were to do this, given their economic circumstances, even the american jurisdictions in puerto rico and the virgin islands, we have got to work the finances. i could give you 50 other examples. so, for those of you who are here from america, whether you're republicans, democrats or independents, i urge you to ask the congress to reauthorize this at a higher level. for those of you from other countries, i urge you to continue to work to build the kind of trading and investing relationships with us that will give us a chance to do things that every

but to balance good a time, investment and geothermal exploration, investment in finding the right kind of response will hydropower project be done with minimum impact on the employment. these are some of the issues that we are helping these countries with finding ways in which you can set the goals today, set the granted a so that 10 years from now you have that kind of mix. >> let me go back to a minute, i think i missed an answer to nancy's was the overall i think really the aspiration is about a 30% penetration of renewables by 2030. 30% is the overall penetration. there's another point i think that vijay, talk about the financing, one of the, the u.n. is at its best when it is setting norms. not in an operational sense but in setting norms, which is why the process, the process of engaging countries, getting agreements in a place like rio, providing those norms, therefore provided basic, groups, non-government organizations, states, political parties, kind of hold governments accountable for that set of norms. that's why, generally why what the u.n. does overall is so very importan

we have authorized a 29 geothermal projects on lands. have been there and seen these projects rising out of the desert. they will make believers out of the skeptics. when these are built, it will provide over 6,500 megawatts of queen power. 2.3 million american homes and thousands of jobs as we grasped the new energy frontier. we have also approved it at the department of the interior and what we have done on the atlantic and in places on the pacific, working with the governors of those states, we have built an offshore wind leasing program for the united states. none of this would have happened if not for the people we have deployed to help make sure government reviews aren't done in a timely basis. i am proud of what we have done on this frontier and a believe it will be a lasting legacy for the american people. i begin my remarks by suggesting there was a widening gap between the real energy world that i work on every day, which we have made so much progress a, and the imagined, fairy tale world of the falsehoods of a campaign year. i

we've authorized 29 utility-scale solar, wind and geothermal projects on public lands. i've been there and have seen these projects rising out of the desert. they will make believers out of the skeptics when we can catch the power of the sun. and these projects are built they'll provide over 6500 megawatts of clean power for over 2.3 million american homes and they will create thousands of jobs as we grasp the new energy frontier. we also have approved cape wind at the department of the interior, and even more importantly than cape wind, what we have done is on the atlantic and even in places on the pacific working with the governors of those states we have from the ground up built an offshore wind-leasing program for the united states. none of this would have happened if not for the teams of people we have deployed to help make sure government reviews are coordinated and done in a timely basis. i'm very proud of what we have done on this new energy frontier and i believe that it will be a lasting legacy for the american people. now, i began my remarks today by suggesti

we have authorized a 29 geothermal projects on lands. i have been there and seen these projects rising out of the desert. they will make believers out of the skeptics. when these are built, it will provide over 6,500 megawatts of queen power. 2.3 million american homes and thousands of jobs as we grasped the new energy frontier. we have also approved it at the department of the interior and what we have done on the atlantic and in places on the pacific, working with the governors of those states, we have built an offshore wind leasing program for the united states. none of this would have happened if not for the people we have deployed to help make sure government reviews aren't done in a timely basis. i am proud of what we have done on this frontier and a believe it will be a lasting legacy for the american people. i begin my remarks by suggesting there was a widening gap between the real energy world that i work on every day, which we have made so much progress a, and the imagined, fairy tale world of the falsehoods of a campaign year.

bus this administration wants to go to new sources of energy like windmills and solar panels and geothermal and nuclear and all those things are important but while we're starting to transition to new sources of energy, we need to use the energy that we have, which would low they are cost of energy to the average citizen and low they are eprice of gasoline so people, as mr. poe has said, could get to work and live a confident, fair, friendly life. with that, mr. poe, thank you so much for giving me this time. i'm a big admirer of yours, buddy. mr. poe: thank you for your comments, i appreciate the gentleman from indiana, several comments about what you said, it's important. the administration, the government says, drilling is up in the united states. that is true. but drilling on federal lands is not up. mr. burton: down is -- down 11%. mr. poe: the drilling is taking place on state-owned property or private-owned property but not federal lands. if it weren't for that drilling would be down in the united states. we go back to the gulf of mexico. the same situation we have in the gulf of mex

wind farm, solar, geothermal, and also power transmission lines to get this electricity to market.that is one of the number one changes. host: charlie in south carolina. caller: i do not have much of a comment, but i will take a shot at it. the caller from arizona? when she mentioned the koch brothers, i just wanted to get my shot in about -- from being a republican caller, who is the guy with the million-dollar tax man at? walter or whatever his name is? help me out, feliz. the guy that mr. obama wants to name a tax after. host: keep going, caller. make a point. caller: i can't think of his name. anyways, i just wanted to mention about the -- i can't remember his nam.e host: i'm pretty sure he was talking about mr. buffett. salt lake city, utah. good morning. caller: as far as federal land management, that is a big subjects, but what comes to mind right away is that the reason this state once the the land back as you have wackos like bill clinton who slapped 1 million acres on that monument in southern utah and never checked with the miners that live there. a lot of these states w

are tremors distinct from earthquakes caused by injection wells not just from our industry but geothermalhigh pressure fluids into the ground. these are not things that cause disturbances of the surface and harm to individuals or property. as a country we can continue to live by fear or by science. i prefer to live by science because it will make america competitive and successful. >> always enjoy your time. thanks for seeing us again. got a quick check of the market the dow down. s&p 1370 which if you recall was a point of support and resistant for a long time going back over the last four to six months. we'll see if there are winners out there on such a negative day. we'll be right back. in here, the landscaping business grows with snow. to keep big winter jobs on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone from field workers to accounting, initiate, bill, and track work in real time. you can't live under a dome in minnesota, that's why there's guys like me. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪ for a hot dog car

virtually every caribbean country could be completely energy dependent with solar, wind, geothermal and waste-to-energy facilities. they could run all their cars on biofuels made in the brazilian system where you get with sugarcane 9.3 gallons of fuel for every gallon of oil required to produce it. it would change the future of the caribbean, our neighbors, our friends, our partners, and it could be led by american technology and american companies if we could work the financing out. it's one of the things i plan to spend a lot of time on in the next ten years. but it's just one example. if we want to do this given their economic circumstances, even the american jurisdictions in if puerto rico and the virgin islands, if we're going to do this, we've got to work the financing. and i could give you 50 other examples. so for those of you who are here from america whether you're republicans, democrats or independents, i urge you to ask the congress to reauthorize this. at the higher level. for those of you from other countries, i urge you to continue to work to build the kind of trading and

germany can make a go of a non-nuclear future, it may sound ridiculous to now, but make solar wind, geothermal -- a whole lot of other things. renewables attractive as an advanced country, that will go far. i think. towards diminishing some of the allure of nuclear power. we also have to do our own job and not make it such a special thing that we can for on our good allies and try to keep away from our not so good allies. >> i don't think it contradicts work cuts across any of my colleagues, this panel has been about security. this was not a panel aimed at oregon's nuclear energy. no one came up here to speak against it. we came to talk about the nuclear security issues. as sharon says, it is usually correct. you would not eliminate the nuclear security or proliferation issues. if there wasn't a link between nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. but if you didn't have nuclear energy, then nuclear programs would be unambiguously connected with nuclear weapons. that would be clarity with that. that is not actually what workout. we are saying ok, we're going to have nuclear energy. how can we do it

but when it comes to solar wind or geothermal no dollar cap on the limit and i believe that credit goeshrough 2011 2016 and i don't know if that was a obama move or bush move. i think it was obama. so that's a pretty big tax break to encourage alternative energy. host: our next call comes from ah med in minneapolis. go ahead. guest: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i have two questions. the first question i have is how -- [inaudible] well, some nontax -- tax preparers did something wrong. for many immigrants. and then from that they earned, we hear that they audit everybody from immigrants from east africa. and then my second question is, many immigrants here in the united states especially in minneapolis, people like from somalia, they have families in somalia, in kenya, talking about children, spouses. can they claim as their children if they -- because every month they send money to them? host: thanks for your call. kevin, regarding the tax preparation and the audit. if you have a tax preparer and you get auditted, what's your best move? guest: well, i think your best move is

and if you look ahead, let's say, to 2025, it will be mixed between one-third geothermal power, which is very clean, one- third hydropower, and one-third from gas and other sources. you could get a 33% mixed in east africa over a certain time frame, but that action has to start today. today, it is heavily in favor of fossil fuels and hydropower. but to balance that with investment in geothermal and actions that can be taken with minimum impact to the environment, finding ways in which you can set the goals today so that 10 years from now you end up with that kind of makes. >> let me go back to that question. i think i miss answered. the aspiration is about a 30% penetration of renewables by 2030. a 50% overall penetration. another thing about the financing of this, the u.n. is at its best when it is setting awards. you know, not in the operational sense, but in setting norms. which is why the process of engaging countries, getting agreements, providing those norms, and therefore provide a base against which non- governmental organizations, states, political parties can hold government

go of a nonnuclear future, make, you know, may sound ridiculous to you now but make solar, wind, geothermal, a whole lot of other things, renewables sexy and attractive as an advanced country, that will go far, i think, towards diminishing some of the allure of nuclear power but we also have to do our own job and not make it such a special thing that we confer on our good allies and try to keep away from our not so good allies. >> only comment and i don't think it cuts contradicts or cuts across either of my colleagues that this panel has been about security. this was not a panel aimed at, against nuclear energy. i mean no one came up here to speak against nuclear energy. we came to talk about the nuclear security issue. so if it, he is obviously correct you wouldn't eliminate the nuclear security issue or nuclear proliferation issue or nuclear weapons issue if there wasn't a link between nuclear energy and nuclear weapons but if you didn't have a nuclear energy, then nuclear programs would unambiguously would be connected with nuclear weapons. that would be bring a certain clarity to that.

when it comes to solar, wind, or geothermal. it has been in for a while. that's a pretty good tax break to encourage alternative energy. >> this comes from ahmed in snapssnaps -- indianapolis. go ahead. caller: some tax preparers did something wrong from immigrants, and from that day on we hear -- i decided to audit everybody, immigrants from east africa. in somalia, kenya, i'd like to to know if they can claim -- send money to them. host: thank you for your call. regarding the tax preparation and the audit, if you have a tax preparer, then you get auditted, what's your best move? >> i think your best move is talk to a preparer and see if he or she should know the audit. i know most people would prefer to see the i.r.s. themselves. the biggest problem they have is with a client that talks too much. so often they want to go by thelve themselves. you won't find bad tax preparers by the time you get auditted. they are gone early on. the i.r.s. will send out 70 million or 0 million refunds before they see anybody's w-2 form. that's why there is a huge problem