, the dream ticket where, you know, he had reagan running for president and they tried to get gerald ford it off serve -- to run as vice president. i always thought jim baker had the best line on the whole situation. because if you had reagan and -- reagan and ford elected as president and vice president, would you address ford as mr. president, mr. vice president or address him as

starting in january, 1977, now, gerald ford has lost to jimmy carter.the republican party has been dismated by the election and one state in republican has republican control of the governorship and the legislature and that's kansas. 49 other states have either near or total democratic control. of their state governments. there are states in the south that don't even have elected republicans in any constitutional office. that's how bad off it is. and only 18% of the american people claim allegiance to the republican party and only 11% of voters under 30 claim allegiance to the republican party. so reagan looks at the landscape and says, we can do better than this. so he goes out there and he starts giving speeches about the new republican party that he envisioned. the new republican party i visioned cannot be the party of the corporate board room or the party of the country club. it's got to be the party of the individual and not the state and the man on the street, the cop on the street, the homeowner, the entrepreneur. it cannot be the party it's been

gerald ford lost to jimmy carter. the republican party has been decimated in the ticket races of 76 and compounded by the fact they've been decimated in '74. and 1977 only one state in america has republican control of the governors appeared legislature, that's kansas. 49 other states had mir or total democratic control of the state governments. there's states in the south that don't even have elected republicans in office. that is how bad it days. and only 18% of the american people claim allegiance to the party and only 11% of the voters under 30 clean allegiance to the republican party. so, regan looks at the landscape and says we can do better than this. so, he goes out and starts giving speeches about the new republican party that he envisioned, the republican party envisioned cannot be the party of the corporate board room, it cannot be the part of the country club. it's got to be the party of the individual, not the state. it's got to be the party of the man on the street, the homemaker, the shopkeeper, the ent

he was convinced like everybody else in america that gerald ford was going to go on the ticket with reagan. >> so let me ask one more question before i throw it to the audience for any questions they may have and it directly follows on that and it goes back to jack kemp. why did his star not rise at least high enough to be more seriously in consideration for the vice president? >> there was a lot of affection

so he can essentially a gerald ford appointee and really cut his teeth in the wake of watergate in the ford administration and his very first assignment as an assistant attorney general was to determine who owned the watergate papers and tapes. no easy task right when you come into office. but he -- his opinion on behalf of that office was next in owned those tapes and other documents from his tenure the congress quickly reversed that and that is why the american public has access to the tapes. >> host: could he replace four assistant -- >> guest: a man named robert dixon and at that time another person you are familiar with, larry silberman, who has gone on to become a federal appeals court judge here in washington, d.c.. mr. silberman was a deputy attorney general, not sure his exact title, but his job was to find a new assistant for the office of legal counsel, and a man by the name of john burroughs, this is sort of like your life, ted, too because you know all these players. john had been a longtime aide in both the nixon and ford administration, and he had the idea that this fell

so he became essentially a gerald ford appointee. and really cut his teeth in the wake of watergate and ford administration, and his very first assignment as an assistant attorney general was to determine who owns the watergate papers and tapes. no easy task when you have come into office, but his opinion on behalf of that office was that nixon owned those tapes, and other doctors from his tenure and congress quickly reversed that and that's why the american public has that. >> host: who did he replace as assistant attorney general for the office? >> guest: robert dix and. at the time another person who you are very ugly with, larry silverman, who has gone on to become a federal appeals court judge here in washington, d.c., mr. silberman was deputy attorney general. >> i'm sure that's what it was. >> guest: his job was to buy a new assistant for the office for the office of legal council, and a man by the name of john rose, sort of like your life, because you know all these players. jon rosen had been a longtime aide in both the nixo

dictate a letter saying, it's outrageous you would think i had less than total respect for girl -- gerald ford's intelligence, and the aide that brought them was jerry bremer, who became our vice viceroy in iraq. he told me that being the viceroy in iraq was only a little less difficult than being on henry kissinger's personal assistant. kissinger didn't speak to him for quite a while. he was furious. when i became editor of time, we invited for the 75th 75th anniversary all people who had been on the cover of time to come back to a party, and i was wondering where he would come into my office, and my assistant says, it's henry kissinger. i pick up the phone, he says, hello, walter. and my first reaction is, this is either henry kissinger or carter doing his kissinger act. so i can't fall for this. i have to not say anything. and kissinger said, even the hundred year war had to end at some point. i will come to your party. so, i think he knew that people and nations don't have any permanent friends or permanent enemies, only permanent interests. that said, have aing gone through the process with

letter saying it's absolutely outrageous you with tank that i have less than total respect for gerald ford's intelligence or something like that. and poor aide, henry kissinger, had to come to the time life building and come downstairs and i get each new letter. the aid was that jerry bremer who ended up becoming our viceroy in iraq. we'll still joke about it. he told me that be the viceroy in iraq was only a little bit less difficult than being a henry kissinger's personal assistant. kissinger didn't speak to me for quite a while. he was. when i became editor of time we invited for the 75th anniversary all people who had been on the cover of time to come back to a party. and i was wondering whether he would come. the phone rings in my office and my susan says it's henry kissinger. i pick up the phone and he says well, walter, and my first reaction is this is either henry kissinger or its greed and carter during his kissinger accent. so i can't fall for this. i just have to not say anything. and kissinger said, even a hundred years war had to end at some point. i will come to her party. so i

old enough or young enough to remember the second televised tv debate between jimmy carter and gerald ford in 1975. when carter and ford were contesting the presidency. governor carter if there's an oil embargo on us again what would you do? and immediately he said what i would immediately proclaim a food embargo on them. and, boy, you could have heard a pin drop between washington and riyadh there. that was when they viewed agriculture self-reliance and food production as a strategic issue and this is when they brought in their agribusiness that didn't exist before. they had rural middle class they didn't have before. they expanded their chambers of commerce. they became the world's seventh largest exporter of wheat, okay, inside of one decade and they became famous for exporting strawberries to france in january and tulips to the netherlands also in january. but they did it at great cost to their own natural water resources, their aquifers and they said we are going to stop the food imports because of the strategic value of water. so it's a gamble. it's a gamble in two ways. one, they do

a really bad idea was gerald ford's whip inflation now buttons.se buttonsçó were designed to actually be how we with double digit inflation. have the ideas like this come into play? well, ideas are the first phase in the process. you cannot have a successful initiative if you have a bad idea. bad ideas generally become reality when they are not exposed to criticism. this phenomenon is called poe's story syndrome. it is the biggest trap. it occurs when people shut themselves off from those that think differently than they do. eight years ago, a professor at the university of georgia study how the brain works. he wanted to conduct an experiment. he had art of republicans and ardent democrats-ardent republicans and ardent democrats watched the debate. while they watched the debate, he had their heads wired so that he could monitor their brains. they were wired up to an mri machine. çweston found that republicans thought that bush had won and democrats thought had -- thought that carey had one and both sides ignored it when their guy was consistent -

>> the first is a picture that was at gerald ford's funeral that his family gave me. i happened to be there just as the casket was passing by. then there's a couple letters he wrote to me that i'm very proud of and this is a picture taken at the swearing nve the vice president in january and then i have a picture of my colleagues on the court of appeals for the seventh circuit and the one at the top is the nixon court for which i clerked. >> so you clerked for riley rutledge during the benson court, 1947. then you come down the pictures and this court -- >> i served an -- on that court from 1970 to 1975. then this is the court i joined, the one at the bottom. >> the seventh circuit, where is it located in >> wisconsin, illinois, and indiana. but we always sit in chicago. >> what was your experience sitting on the seventh circuit? >> well, i learned a great deal. an awful lot about federal law, of course. i served with some awfully good judges and learned a lot from them. in that picture, for example, tom fairchild was the chief judge for years and i learned a lot from

>> the first one is a picture of gerald ford's funeral, that his family gave me. the casket was just passing by. and then a letter that he wrote to me that i was very proud of. and this picture was taken at the swearing in of the vice- president in january. and that i have a picture of my colleagues on the court of appeals for the seventh circuit. the one at the top is the court, my first court. >> you clerked for wiley rutledge, and as you come down the pictures, this court right now -- >> i served on the court until 1975. and this is the court that i joined along the bottom. >> let me go back to the second circuit. >> it covers wisconsin, illinois, and indiana. >> was a learning experience on the seventh circuit? >> i learned a great deal. i learned an awful lot about federal law. i served with some awfully good judges and learned a lot from them. in that picture, tom fairchild, i learned a lot from him. >> what is the difference between a circuit court of appeals and the supreme court? >> on the circuit court of appeals, you are more bound by precedent than you

a really bad idea was gerald ford's whip inflation now buttons.se buttonsçó were designed to actually be how we with double digit inflation. have the ideas like this come into play? well, ideas are the first phase in the process. you cannot have a successful initiative if you have a bad idea. bad ideas generally become reality when they are not exposed to criticism. this phenomenon is called poe's story syndrome. it is the biggest trap. it occurs when people shut themselves off from those that think differently than they do. eight years ago, a professor at the university of georgia study how the brain works. he wanted to conduct an experiment. he had art of republicans and ardent democrats-ardent republicans and ardent democrats watched the debate. while they watched the debate, he had their heads wired so that he could monitor their brains. they were wired up to an mri machine. çweston found that republicans thought that bush had won and democrats thought had -- thought that carey had one and both sides ignored it when their guy was consistent -

old enough or done enough to remember the televised television debate between jimmy carter and gerald ford in 1975. [e7v that if the saudis never complain -- if they ever imposed a oil embargo on us again, what would you do? they said there would put a food embargo on them. you could hear a pin drop. that is when they viewed food production as a strategic issue. this was when they brought in a whirl middle-class that was not there before. the became the world's seventh largest exporter of wheat inside of one ticket. they became famous for exporting strawberries to france in january and tulips to the netherlands. they did it to a huge -- they did it at a huge cost to their own natural water resources. they said there are going to stop that and are going to purchase all necessary food imports because of the strategic value of water. it is a gamble. they do not have the control over it and it is in another country. it is a gamble in terms of what you do with the middle class of the hundreds of thousands of saudi arabian sea have created who works -- who work on these farms. they have the worl

some of your young enough to remember the debate between jimmy carter and gerald ford. 1975, when carter and ford were contesting the presidency there. one columnist said, governor carter, if the saudis ever put an oil embargo on us again, what would you do? what i put immediately would proclaim was a food embargo on them. you could have heard a pin drop between washington and the area. it was a strategic issue again. this is when a broad and their businesses that did not exist before. they expanded their chambers of commerce and became the world's seventh largest exporter of wheat, okay? inside one decade. they became famous for exploring other exports. they did it at great cost to their own natural water resources. they have now said that they are going to stop that. we will purchase all of their and necessary food imports, because of this -- value of water. it is a gamble in two ways. they do not have any control over it, in other countries. and it is a gamble in terms of what you do with the middle class of hundreds of thousands of people do you have created, who worked in these coop

former president dwight eisenhower, gerald ford, and ron at reagan all reached the highest office in our land, but before they were president, they were each standout athletes in college. wow. now this. what a year it's been for this next athlete. his name is bofgio. the chicago fire welcomed the rookie mid-fielder to her roster, and being all to play in front of his own hometown has been. a a dream come true, especially when you consider that his journey began in another country where his memories of death and destruction still remain a big part of him. josh mora has gee or geo's story. >> i spent a lot of time playing with my family, so that's really basically it, that i remember, is just playing around with my cousins, running in the wood, and that sort of thing. >> reporter: peaceful life. >> yeah, very nice, very peaceful. >> reporter: until he was 7 years old, he lived an idealic life in bosnia with his parents and older brother. his family owned land and had money, but wars a all around them. >> it's war, you see people dead. i lost my brother to, you know, yes, i lost my brot

and a really bad idea was gerald ford's whip inflation now buttons. who remembers those?o you remember those buttons? who wore them? anyone here? these buttons essentially whip inflation now campaign were designed to talk about how we were going to whip double-digit inflation. bad idea. now, how did ideas like this come into play? well, ideas are really the first phase in the public policy process, and you can't have a successful initiative if you've got a flawed idea. bad ideas generally become reality when they aren't exposed to external criticism. this phenomenon is called tolstoy syndrome, named after count leo tolstoy. and it's the biggest trap in the idea stage. it occurs when people or groups shut themselves off from critics, from those who think differently than they do. a few years ago a professor named drew weston, who's out of the university of georgia, he studies how the brain works, an he wanted to conduct an experiment. so he had ardent republicans and ardent democrats watch a debate between president george bush and senator john kerry. but there's a twist.

former president dwight eisenhower, gerald ford, and ron at reagan all reached the highest office in our land, but before they were president, they were each standout athletes in college. wow. now this. what a year it's been for this next athlete. his name is bofgio. the chicago fire welcomed the rookie mid-fielder to her roster, and being all to play in front of his own hometown has been. a a dream come true, especially when you consider that his journey began in another country where his memories of death and destruction still remain a big part of him. josh mora has gee or geo's story. >> i spent a lot of time playing with my family, so that's really basically it, that i remember, is just playing around with my cousins, running in the wood, and that sort of thing. >> reporter: peaceful life. >> yeah, very nice, very peaceful. >> reporter: until he was 7 years old, he lived an idealic life in bosnia with his parents and older brother. his family owned land and had money, but wars a all around them. >> it's war, you see people dead. i lost my brother to, you know, yes, i lost my brot

and they're really bad idea was gerald ford's with inflation albertsons. -- whip inflation now buttonsbad idea. how do ideas like this come into place? you cannot have a successful initiative if you have a flawed idea. bad ideas generally become -- it is the tolstoy syndrome. people shut themselves off from critics. a few years ago, a professor from the university of georgia study how the brain works. he had bargained republicans and art and democrats want a debate between president george bush and senator john kerry. while they watched the debates, he had their heads wired up to an mri machine. it looked a little bit like that. it is available on ebay for $29.95. westin found that republicans thought that bush had won and democrats fault that kerry had won. the part that was activated -- the part of the brand was activated during the debate was the emotional part of the brain. those hearing the debate were not thinking at all. they were just pulling for their guide. this phenomenon is called by this. it causes a lot of problems. -- this phenomenon is called bias. it causes a lot of pr