gerald ford was the president at that time. he was seen as a very weak incumbent. not only had he not been elected president, he had not been elected vice president. shortly after they won that election and were sworn in to start the second term in 1973, vice president spiro agnew came under investigation for bribery. nixon's vice president got investigating for bribery. he ended up getting criminally charged. he had to resign from office. we sort of forget this now because of the way the nixon administration ended. even before nixon became the great scandal of the nixon error he had to resign in disgrace and face criminal charges. the vice presidency may not be the most crucial job in the federal government but there does have to be somebody holding that position. when he had to go into that criminal cloud, president nixon had to choose someone to replace him. that's how a congressman from michigan who had never been elected by an electorate larger than his congressional district got himself into the presidency. that's how we got gerald ford even though he had nev

the first one was the obvious one which is that gerald ford beat ronald reagan. he got the nomination and he went onto lose the election to g jimmy carter. even though ronald reagan didn't succeed, how close he got to it did play excellent ground work for him to take over leadership of the republican party much more easily. in 1980 when republicans convened for their next convention in detroit, that republican convention in 1980 not only was that not a fight, it was an absolute coronation. reagan put his chief rival george bush on the ticket as a running mate. there was a little noise that he would pick jesse helms. it was a pretty smooth transition. the vice presidency went to poppy bush. they had also set up the rules at the 1980 convention so only one name could be put in nomination. there was no drama over that. another reagan challenger named john anderson had fought hard that year to get a speaking slot at the republican convention but the republican party and the reagan campaign forces figured out way to box john anderson out of that so he didn't get to sp

gerald ford beat ronald reagan. so just a quick -- >> i stand corrected if i'm wrong. sorry about that. >> no, no worries. don, this is your show. i'm not here to be weird. after june 7th, that's the last primary. if donald trump can't get to 1,237 after june 7th, that means that it's going to be a contested convention. that doesn't mean he can't win on the first ballot. >> my question was do you think -- i understand. you've said that. but do you think voters will find it undemocratic? >> well, of course. because the whole concept that our founding fathers understood is that there's something even more leadersh leadership, and that's how a person becomes elected. if donald trump is ahead of ted cruz, right now he's ahead by 2 million votes and ahead of kasich by 5 million votes. by the time the convention comes in july, he'll be ahead of cruz by 3 or 4 million votes and kasich 7 or 8 million votes. and the idea that donald trump who has won with the voters

gerald ford did this in 1976. so there is a shot. i mean, i -- >> they won't be bound to him on the first ballot, right? can't they switch, too? >> our math shows us that there's a 70% chance most likely that trump will get to the 1,237 on the first ballot without any of these games. lying ted cruz is playing all these games because he has to. but with us, we can do it the honest way by winning these primaries. if donald does fall 10 delegates short, he'll have at that point and these are what the polls show, he'll have won 32 of the 50 states and he'll have about 3 million more votes than lying ted. so that means he just needs 17 delegates. >> i want to get buck in here because i want to ask a similar question that was asked during the last election. he's saying he has the math but is this real math or math to make the trump people feel better about where they stand sp. >> andy's a good man.

state dinners than anybody in the ford administration with the possible exception of betty and gerald ford. >> maybe you can put them on trumm down to mar-a-lago. you were at the convention, jeffrey. what was it like? >> it was chaotic. ford came in 43 delegates ahead, he won by 11 7. the pennsylvania connection for me, i was there as a young staffer as the pennsylvania republican party and ronald reagan as a last-minute gam theirgambut was to make locwell schweiker a his running mate. drew lewis, who would eventually be my later boss, he's famous in history today, he's reagan's secretary of transportation. in the day he was ford's pennsylvania chairman. he held those delegates while his best friend in life said to him over the phone in a heated conversation, "you are keeping me from being president of the united states." it was quite dramatic. drew lewis held, ford won. ronald reagan was so impressed, eventually he convinced drew lewis to come with him four years later and then history flows from there. >> alice, stand by. i'm going to get you in i promise. you know paul manafort. the tru

it is gerald ford for president. ho gets the last word and ford calls him down to the podium. >> we must go forth from here united, determined at what a great general said a few years ago is true. there is no substitute for victory. mr. president -- [ applause ] >> when he made the speech, it was by then too late because jerry ford had the nomination but a lot of people walked out of there saying i think we nominated the wrong guy. >> in november democrat jimmy carter takes the white house from gerald ford a bitter republican loss. the regan revolution that began in the '76 campaign transformed the republican party. 40 years on, another assault on the party's status quo threatens to tear the party apart in 2016's explosive race for dell guilts. >> that's not what politics is. >> the establishment was threatened in '76 and '80 and the establishment is threatened in 2016. the establishment reacted in a certain way in '76 and '80. the establishment reacts a certain way again in 2016. >> they don't fill the rooms with smo

gerald ford went out and ronald reagan went out. there were unbound delegates and he said can i bring along jimmy stewart and john wayne? he started giving them advice on soviet policy and having cocktails in the east room of the white house. donald trump isn't doing anything. he's complaining about ted cruz winning in colorado. ted cruz went to the convention in kcolorado and rallied the delegates. donald truch said i didn't even give a speech there. you think he would know how to make these deals. >> he said on february 5th, i didn't know you needed a ground game. we're going to have a great ground game. we're in the middle of april and he still doesn't have a ground game. his daughter and son are not going to be able to vote for him in new york because they didn't know the rules about when he needed to sign up. he wasn't in north dakota, wasn't in colorado. if he wants to win this nomination he has to do what gerald ford did or else he's going to lose. >> do you think that the delegates would punish one of these candidates if the

richard nixon and henry kissinger kept it very tight such that gerald ford becomes vice president, he's not brought into the loop. but the director of central intelligence, bill colby, invited ford out for a series of presentations. he walks him through a tour of some offices including the office of current intelligence, the group of cia which produced the pding b and other intelligence analysis. and as they're walking through, there just happens to be a copy of the president's daily brief sitting on the table. ford notices it, what's that? that's the document that goes to the president and dr. kissinger every morning. would you like to see it? why sure. and that led to a pattern whereby a cia officer, dave peterson -- i tell his story in the book -- he went to ford's house in alexandria, virginia, every morning to talk to him about the pdb at his kitchen table or sometimes in the car downtown. and then when he became president, ford said, no, i'm keeping this, and the first item of business he had every day was talking directly about the pdb. >> so the agency has, in fact, run operatio

besides gerald ford, since world war ii, how many presidents have run for a second term in office andt? >> since... >> besides gerald ford. >> okay. >> since world war ii, how many presidents have run for a second term in office and lost? >> all right, so, um, since world war ii ended, that was harry truman. um, he ran for reelection and won. then we have eisenhower. and i'm pretty sure he won also. because, okay, so harry truman was... he ran--he won again in 1948. so 1952 to eisenhower... so... right, 1952 to eisenhower? yes. okay, and then, after eisenhower was jfk, who won in 1960. um, and he did not make it to the opportunity to... run for a second term. so we're at zero so far.

she was kind of an odd duck. >> when gerald ford became president, within the space of one month wereeaky fromme and sara jane moore. both tried to shoot him. it's like, what's going on? why can't this be stopped? >> once again this nation has narrowly escaped the tragedy, the trauma of the assassination of our president. above all else, this points out the need for some additional measures, some additional precautions to protect the life of the highest elected official in the country. will it take another assassination in our lifetime to finally force some action? my belly pain and constipation? i've heard it all. eat more fiber. flax seeds. yogurt. get moving. keep moving. i know! try laxatives. been there, done that. my chronic constipation keeps coming back. i know. tell me something i don't know. vo: linzess works differently from laxatives. linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. it can help relieve your belly pain, and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements that are easier to pass. do not give linzess to children under six and

1976 when former california governor ronald reagan was the outsider, challenging the president, gerald fordboth men claimed to have the votes heading into the convention, but nobody was sure. not even jim baker, who was then ford's top delegate hunter. >> we had no assurance whatsoever that he would get the majority of votes necessary to be nominated. >> but he did. winning the nomination and earning baker headlines. but it was far from easy. >> governor reagan, ronald reagan, almost knocked off an incumbent republican president. we had to get in there and scramble for it and fight for it. >> so as donald trump gets ready to rumble at the convention, baker has little sympathy for the argument that if trump is closest to the finish line going in he should be declared the winner. >> it's mathematically unfair. >> is that the way the process works? >> well, that's a very good political argument for him to make. but that's not actually the way the process is supposed to work. >> 20 votes for our fellow texan. >> it's supposed to work in a vote or series of votes by the delegates on the floor of

. >> ronald reagan gave gerald ford a good fight all the way up to the convention of that year and foren kramocrats a number were pitching for the nomination so new yorkers votes really mattered, just like we're seeing today. the fonz, bell bottoms and a bicentennial birthday bash for america. it was 1976. ♪ paul mccartney's silly love songs topped the billboard charts and a serious political decision confronted voters across the country, including here in new york. according to politicos we spoke with, '76 was the last time the new york primaries mattered this much on both sides. ken fisher's family has been involved in new york democratic politics for decades. >> it was an exciting race for both parties in '76 because it was an open seat because the country had been traumatized. >> scarred by the watergate scandal. >> i shall resign effective tomorrow. >> the resignation of richard nixon, the u.s. pulling out of vietnam and, like today, voters struggling after a recession. >> new york was a very different city in 1976. for one thing, it was broke. the economy was in the toilet, the s

he was in second place to gerald ford in the delegate count, to try to shake things up.e, who's been following cruz's campaign the last several months, ted cruz loves the parallels he has with ronald reagan, always invokes ronald reagan in his history. in a lot of ways, i think you can see him trying to rekindle sof some of the 1976 magic, the problem, it didn't work then and gerald ford became the president and then ronald reagan becoming the nominee and then two term president. you usually are not doing this move from a position of strength. this is a position of weakness. he needs things to shake things up in indiana. it will be interesting to see where those indiana polls are after what we saw in the last five states last night. >> it will be interesting to see the reaction from donald trump we know is not one likely to follow and i'm not expecting him to make an announcement about a running mate. does this in any way put the pressure on someone like a donald trump to narrow down his picks? >> no. i think it gives him more flexibility to see what he needs in order to

next presidential speechwriter for gerald ford craig smith smith shares behind-the-scenes stories from his time in the white house and the importance of speechwriters during presidential elections. >> how did you get started and speechwriting? >> that's an amazing story. i was a high school debater and i debated in college and i went on to double my major from history into communication studies prove that i went to graduate school studies but i never thought of speechwriting. i just taught speech and got interested in various areas of the field. in one when i was at the university of virginia i would ask to give a guest lecture at the university of north carolina at chapel hill. i went down to chapel hill and gave my lecture at 10:00 in the morning and president ford was speaking on the campus at noon. all of us decided to go over and hear him. how often do you get to hear president live? the president gave a speech that was really not very good. it was disorganized, was rambling. my colleagues kitted me a lot like how could you be a republican and support a man that give a speech? i w

once they got to the convention reagan tried this further stunt where he wanted to force gerald ford to declare who his running mate would be before the delegates ever cast their votes for president. that stunt failed. frankly the whole running mate overall failed for reagan in 1976. it was weird. it was a disruption in his failing campaign against ford, but reagan still failed against ford and then in the fall ford went on to fail against jimmy carter in the general election and the legacy of that whole strange unprecedented running mate stunt from 1976 is such that nobody has ever tried it again, right? it doesn't go well. nobody else has ever again tried such a desperate and simultaneously arrogant pr stunt like that. until today when ted cruz pulled the same rabbit out of a different hat. in indianapolis today the ted cruz campaign put out word that senator cruz would be making a major announcement. most people assumed if he wasn't quitting, he would be announcing an endorsement. people starting looking for mitch daniels cell phone number. ted cruz ended up announcing his own 201

in 1976 he had primaried gerald ford. you want to cause republican leadership to loathe you, come within an inch of beating the incumbent republican president. what he did, think about what reagan did in '77, '78, '79. he didn't fly to washington and sit down and say you have to stand for something. he took the case to the american people. i'll tell you, buffalo new york played a critical part in that because it was jack camp's economic vision empowerment. >> there you go. you're always going to do well with jack. >> i grew up idolizing jack camp. he understood the way you took people out of poverty is having them stand up on their feet. it united republicans. all the people who hated reagan, when they saw the voters show up in massive numbers. you interview a lot of people. you cannot find a republican today who will not swear that ronald reagan's tattooed somewhere on his body. >> do you have him tattooed somewhere on yours? >> that's between me and my wife. >> fair enough. let's go to another question. shawn mccormick.

nixon leaves the white house, says farewell to gerald ford and walks to the chopper. young david michael ransom, then 32 steps out onto the balcony on the south to watch nixon fly away and there are two people standing next to him on the little balcony, just enough space for the three of us to be there. one is this young nsc aid, 6 x 6, and the others, secretary of defense, james lessons are --'s lessons are, he signaled his departure with two fingers raising the v sign and he entered the helicopter, it cranked up very slowly, lifted off and disappeared into the gloom of the morning, almost a hunted seen. as the helicopter faded, the three men looked at each other, he takes a pipe out of his mouth, bangs it on the railing of the portico and says it is an interesting constitutional question but i think i am still the secretary of defense. i will go back to my office. he looks at the chef and says what are you going to do? the chef says i will prepare lunch for the president. the young nsc staff are said i thought of course the king is dead, long live the king. the cook

gerald ford. gerald ford said to new york in 19457. >> drop dead. >> drop dead, new york.ned? both tabloids turned against him. the daily news as with the train and the u train today's headlines. the post already against him. the last word. >> leave it on that. but, geraldo, i mean, why would it be anti-semitic. >> i don't want to get into that. you broke the tie. be quiet. >> keep it that way. >> the race in new york, trump will win. it's to see if he gets below 50. and i think there is a 50-50 chance that he will get below 50. these guys cruz and kasich they are campaigning hard here and there is upstate. gentlemen, thank you. directly ahead, bernie sanders says hillary clinton is knot qualified to be president and bill clinton yelling at some black lives matter protesters right on. dana perino on the case up next. a heart attack doesn't care if you run everyday, or if you're young or old. no matter who you are a heart attack can happen without warning. if you've had a heart attack, a bayer aspirin regimen can help prevent another one. be sure to talk to your doctor befo

gerald ford lost, so that's a horrible example.hey should have the appearance of it. >> it would be nice. on monld, mr. trump came on my radio show. >> aren't you a hot shot. >> stop it. just stop it. >> yes, just talking to donald trump. go ahead. >> you're the worst. it's all because i mentioned you. oh, you know cavuto. >> i'm leaving. >> if you get the chance and i hate to blatantly plug it. but go to the podcast. listen to donald trump. so down to earth. so grounded. this is the donald you know, neil, this is the donald i know. and so all you got to do is sit -- sometimes i think it's just theatrics, not on donald's parts but the gop's part. >> donald is full of theatrics too. that's fine. i'm not a vindictive person. >> i see that. you're offended as an italian, i can tell. >> no, i moved on. he's free to go on any show he wants. he's very cal bratd, very targeted at what he does, his recent hires prove it. but last night after his big victory in new york, and he almost ran away with it, he was very presidential in terms of h

1976, when former california governor ronald reagan was the outsider challenging the president, gerald fordmed to have the votes heading into the convention, but nobody was sure, not even jim baker who was then ford's top delegate. >> we had no assurance whatsoever that he would get the majority of votes necessary to be nominated. >> reporter: but he did, winning the nomination and earning baker headlines. but it was far from easy. >> mr. president. >> reporter: governor reagan almost knocked off an incumbent republican president. we had to get in there, scramble for it, fight for it. as donald trump gets ready to rumble at the convention, baker has little sympathy for the argument that trump is closest to the finish line going in, he should be declared the winner. >> it is mathematically unfair. >> is that the way it works? >> that's a good political argument for him to make but that's not actually the way the process is supposed to work. >> 20 votes for our fellow texan. >> it is supposed to work in a vote or series of votes by the delegates on the floor of the convention. they select the

gerald ford. so, if donald trump doesn't win on the first ballot, i don't think he wins at all.ot of the delegates who are committed to him on the first ballot are going to be free agents by the time it comes to the second ballot. a lot of them will not be voting for donald trump. it's either ted cruz or donald trump. if trump can't win it on the first ballot, i think ted cruz wins it on the second ballot. >> judson phillips, thank you for being with me. appreciate your time. >> jose, thanks again for having me. >>> the latest on sanders' charge that clinton is unqualified to be president. ahead. >>> also, actress and sanders' supporter rosario dawson weighs in on the political climate. my exclusive interview with her after the break. is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student? is it one day giving your daughter the opportunity she deserves? is it finally witnessing alls of the natural world? whatever your definition of success is, helping you pursue it, is ours. t-i-a-a. hey kevin. hey, fancy seeing you here. uh, i live right over there actually. you'

>> i went to houston and talked to jim baker about this who ran the '76 convention for gerald ford.id you have to know everything about them. and calling them corrupt or the system corrupt is really not the way to do it, particularly if you're likely to win. >> but it also is a fact that the reason that the delegates are chosen the way they're chosen is two-fold. one is he's partially right, it is to keep outliers from getting the nomination. there's the delegate math and we're talking about that a lot as we should and there's also the electorate. to your point where cruz has underperformed is -- >> with the people, who should matter. >> with his base of evangelicals in the south, that's where trump overperformed. but where trump is really hurting now is can he grow his base of support beyond the more poorly educated, those without college degrees, white males, can he grow among women, can he grow among a diverse population in a state like new york at all. it's in part the saidism of these delegates who might waver. i can win, i can grow from where i've been. that's what he was demo

endorsed gerald ford and helped bring everyone together. don't get that moment, we're in trouble. >> that means cruz supporters that hate the trump supporters and the trump supporters that hate the cruz supporters, you're saying if they don't come together -- >> that's right. >> -- it's going to be a disaster. >> it's going to be a disaster. i think if they don't, if we don't, we're going to get the second reign of the clintons. >> i agree with you. thanks for being with us. i hope that clears it up for you. it's confusing. very confusing. >>> coming up next on this busy news night tonight on "hannity." >> protesting donald trump? >> yes. >> what do you not like about him? >> i don't like the hate that's been distributed amongst his whole campaign. >> last night we sent david webb to speak to left-wing agitators protesting outside a trump rally in long island, new york. we'll play you that tape coming up. >>> and later tonight -- >> i don't think you are qualified if you supported virtually every disastrous trade agreement which has cost us

i can think of gerald ford in 1976.e was a sitting president and facing a real challenge from ronald reagan. he had a certain perk called air force one, didn't he? >> he sure did. you know, i had gerald ford, my wife and i, in our home on two occasions. a story had broken about the delegates and he was getting criticism. i asked him about it right to his face and hi said, listen. i wrote a memo and it was issued to all of my staff that there will be no quid pro quo for delegates at that convention. that's a '76 convention. i said, well the story is you had people in the oval office. he said, well, that's different. of course we had people in the oval office. and we had them on air force one but we didn't give them any money. >> there is that. it's a unique ride and moment. carter used it, as well, for his backers and delegates who might have been thinking about, i'm sure ted kennedy running for re-election. let me ask you a little bit about how kennedy played off relations. john kennedy played off relations with the hol

conversations with delegates who could be wooed during that period to explain the vision of why gerald fordld be better or ronald reagan would be better. but what all the candidates in cleveland will need to do is to know that persuadable delegates, to know what motivates them in terms of issues, and people who they will listen to. and then let the games begin. >> is there ever a conflict of interest where things can be interpreted as bribes versus influence? >> well, i think that scenario can always take place in the hot house at moths fear ofmosphere election. so tactics that one group thinks are certainly within the rules, if they're successful, there could well be a complaint filed against them. that will be part of the background. but it's still also true as a matter of law the political parties have the ultimate independence and freedom to make their rules as they wish to pick their nominee. >> ben, there is an associated press report out today that outlines a scenario under which donald trump could clinch the nomination by june 7, big state being california on that day. how likely is

jesse jackson is coming this gandys is prime minister and gerald ford. where else in the world would you be so lucky as to have those people speak within one month? and then on friends, tonight i studied with a spaniard, a filipino, and a frenchman. it sounds like the beginning of a joke. [laughter] the yanks are incredible. loud, happy, friendly, buzzing with energy. they ask questions continuously. many needlessly. [laughter] participation is graded. i am forced to do the same, when in rome put your hand up. money, i purchased a calculator today for $100. $200, my finances are writing a storm. letter, that was good practice for the financial crisis i would confront 25 years later. i was always short of money. i borrowed a student loan. 24% student loan. along came volcker. [laughter] [applause] finally, international house was highly instrumental in pointing me toward a career in banking. i have been lucky to be assigned to a trustee. each trustee match to one student. mine is shelby davis, a legendary wall street banker. was a tremendous support of i

i think ronald reagan got more popular votes than gerald ford and gerald ford wound up winning. any system that can give abraham lincoln is chance to be president is not all bad. >> but, senator graham, you know, abraham lincoln didn't run in the new hampshire primary. abraham lincoln didn't face 50 nominating contests. it's so different now. i keep hearing the lincoln comparison but it's not really apt, is it? >> well, i mean, you had a process in colorado that trump complained about, cruz won. there's different ways -- each state handles how to pick a delegate different ways but here is the rule. if he don't get to 1,237, the delegates vote until they get to 1,237. after the first ballot, most delegates become free agents. i like that system. that's fine with me. is it the most democratic system? no. is it good for parties? probably yes. i think a lot of people think the superdelegates are bad for the democrats. you know, it's just whatever you think is best for the party in terms of nominating somebody. if we can have a second ballot that denies donald trump the nomination, t

james baker is saying go back to the 1976 convention, gerald ford won in part because they were handing out ticket to a steak dinner at white house to delegates if they hang in there, so this is not new, but it stinks. to high heaven. and it's not just the perks. think about what happened this week on democrat side. colorado republicans. and we could talk about that. but the democrats found out oh, we didn't add it right. bernie sanders gets one more delegate. even if hillary clinton wins all the superdelegates in colorado, it would mean sanders might eke out a victory. they knew this for five week, didn't sell bernie sanders. they told hillary clinton's camp. when the post was about to break it, oh, bernie, we made a mistake. that suggests that the powerful, the entrenched inside the democratic party like maybe on the republican side, have an inside deal. even if they don't, they are giving out this impression with these deals. >> got another one for you, juan. guess what else you can promise these delegates. you can promise them a position in the upcoming administration, now, you can'

in 1976, you had ronald reagan and gerald ford. ford had the majority of the delegates and was able to get the majority and that's the last truly contested convention. but what the people inside washington are hoping for, because they dislike donald trump and ted cruz so much, that someone -- perhaps kasich, or paul ryan, or marco rubio can get vote after vote on delegation floor. the convention floor somehow gets the nomination. fernando: but in that scenario, millions of people will have voted growth ted cruz and donald trump. what do you think people will think if the republican establishment engineers a different nominee? john: they will be infuriated. has said riots in the streets. you typically don't see white, middle class, old people riot in the streets. but they will be very angry and might decide not to vote for whoever the republicans nominate. i think it's a risky strategy. in many ways, it's fantasy land. republicans have to come to grips with the fact that it will be donald trump or ted cruz. and my sense is that it w

didn't bring delegates, and it didn't -- did it just not work because it's a sitting president and gerald fordas able to promise the moon, take them, you know, we've already read about all the different anecdotes we've heard, 4th of july at the white house to watch the bicentennial, is that why it didn't work? >> that was in part. ford had the majesty. he had a very capable delegate hunter and he used everything he could to get the uncommitted delegates to support gerald ford. reagan was very popular, but he was simply a former governor. he had assets like jimmy stewart and john wayne and things like that. but in the end, reagan was always behind, and that's what people need to understand. ford was the incumbent president, unelected, but still the incumbent. he had state parties, all the resources of the national party behind him, plus the white house, plus his own election committee, the president ford committee. so it was always an uphill struggle worry ronald reagan. that he came so close and took it all the way to the convention is in itself a small miracle. >> perhaps that's what ted cruz

operative who managed the convention for gerald ford, which at that point with ronald reagan and he was coming aboard the trump campaign. this week they announced he would have a much broader portfolio and in fact, it's a job announcement that sounds like, in part, that trump's own campaign manager is being pushed aside to the side. gwen: 1976 being 40 years ago. >> having a problem. if he takes those two last big states, new york and california, what are the chances that he can actually get to the 1237 before the convention? karen: he is the only candidate left who has any chance at you will. there is a good chance. but look at new york, ted cruz is great at finding these little targets of opportunity. the delegates are going to be apportioned not only who wins the statewide vote but also the congressional district. ted cruz is going in these places trying to chip away delegates from trump. we also see what is happening is ted cruz is going behind backwards to places where the fight has already been fought and for instance found a way and pull out more delegates from louisiana than tru

reagan lost that convention fight to gerald ford back in 1976. >> it wasn't nearly as nasty as this electioneason has been either. for sure. >>> on the democratic side, the bernie sanders campaign made a big decision after a bad night last night. >> sanders is downsizing his campaign after losing 4 out of 5 states in the primary. the campaign announcing today it is laying off more than 200 workers. cutting its 550 member team. but sanders says the cuts don't mean he's giving up. >> i am very good in arithmetic. and i can count delegates, and we are behind today. but you know what? unusual things happen in politics. >> campaign aides say they will focus most of their remaining resources on winning california on june 7. >>> stay informed as this unfold. get election results, voting information all in one place. the free wusa app. download it now. >>> dennis hastert admitted to committing the child sex abuse that he refused to admit for so long. he admitted to abusing boys that he coached in high school wrestling 30 years ago. and he apologized to them. the judge went beyond sentencing guidelin

. >> a lot of mistrust. nominee jimmy carter and sitting president gerald ford held off a challenge from ronald reagan. what stands out about that year? >> one of the things that stands out is just how infrequently we have contested contests on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: this political science professor says '76 wasn't the only time new york played a big role. the democratic race in 1992. >> at the time, bill clinton did very well, winning that primary and continuing along his path that led to the nomination and to the presidency. >> reporter: new yorkers are also known to break hearts, like 1988 for jesse jackson. >> the numbers that ended any serious talk of jesse jackson winning the democratic nomination. >> reporter: and state voters sure do know how to pick them. >> despite bob doles victory -- >> selecting the candidate who would go on to be the party nominee four of the last five >> we're going to stop george bush this november. >> reporter: the only time in recent memory new york didn't pick the nominee, hillary clinton in 2008. >> it is not uncommon for the new york p

they looked back to the last brokered convention wifrls an incumbent, gerald ford and ronald reagan. these are some of the vignettes. it says that somebody was there at the time, when it went on for hours with a melee in the hallways and at one point, one of the four children reportedly threw trash at the texas delegates. >> wow. >> reality television at its finest. >> we can only hope for something like that. >> we're going to begin with the winners and losers in wisconsin. donald trump and hillary clinton each suffering a bruising defeat. >> bernie sanders had a sweeping victory in virtually every county across the state. as sanders thanked supporters last night, he called the big win a sign of >> and ted cruz characterized his victory as a turning point and rallying cry, barnstorming the state paid off for cruz soundly beating trump. he picked up nearly all of the state's 42 republican delegates. the trump campaign is not taking the loss gracefully. in a statement overnight, they caused cruz a trojan horse saying he's being used by party bosses to steal the nomination from trump.

ever any convention, where this really -- to figure out what happens when we go to cleveland when gerald ford was nominated ahead of ronald reagan, and made a close run, so there isn't a lot of people, then you are 60, then you were 40 and you are 80 now, but this is a difficult thing that has very much to do within the weeds understanding rules and getting up there and attacking. bring people in h to really understand how parties work, now there are people that have experience on the state level, and both he and ted cruz and whoever else thinks they have a shot are going to need people like that, so this came down to a few members of this california delegation, how they will vote, a dozen members of the new york delegation, so you need that. >> how does ted cruz campaign when he has said so many not nice things about new york? >> well, bear in mind this is a republican primary, if he were to win the nomination, and either bernie sanders and hillary clinton were to be the democratic, or any democrat, they would be 2-1 in this state, and probably 4-1 in the city. we are tackling aability a sma

and gerald ford played golf there. but obama loves to play golf there. but i also think he finds it a place that has a kind of serenity that works for him. host: the book is called "let the people rule," and peter is our first caller from london, england. go ahead. good afternoon. caller: good afternoon. i want your guest -- actually america doesn't have anybody, as it is recognized out the united states. there's no membership, for -- le, other than a loose other than -- in other countries, you find that the leader of the nominees are actually elected by the members to be members of that party. rather than anybody who comes off and decides that they may be democrat or republican. i wondered why that system doesn't work, won't work in the nited states, and it also goes to the question of the party platforms where elsewhere they raise -- they come out naturally from the party rather than just from the leadership. guest: well, to take your last point first because it undermines the point, we see the speaker of the house speak for the republican party in a c

the makings of the 1976 contested republican convention when ronald reagan challenged president gerald ford. frank donatelli was a youth organizer for reagan. >> at that point, the delegate ceases to be an extra on a four-night miniseries where he or she is supposed to applaud at the right times and they become real agents of the party. >> reporter: ford kept delegates in line by offering, among other things, rides aboard air force one and seats at state dinners. the laws governing incentives to delegates are murky, something the candidates this year could exploit. and after a first ballot, most delegates can switch alliances. >> could you, you know, offer transportation or room and board or something? i mean, there's a lot of ways to persuade uncommitted delegates. flights aboard his helicopter or luxurious private jet, a weekend at mar-a-largo club, a tea time at trump national. but, james, ideology sometimes trumps trips or presents and for conservatives cruz may prove more attractive than loot. >> brown: major garrett in our washington bureau. major, thank you so much. well, nancy corde

reminded that in 1976, ronald reagan was trying to take the nomination away from a sitting president, gerald ford. reagan announced a running mate ahead of the g.o.p. convention. it didn't work. >> ted cruz is hoping help get more votes from women. >> i think she was very well received during the primary. >> the move follows yesterday's poor performance in five primaries. fiorina is well known in the silicon valley and was the g.o.p. nominee for senate in 2010. today, she step stepped out of her comfort zone to sing a song two cruz's two young daughters. >> we get to play ♪ >> reporter: donald trump who never reads from a teleprompter did so today. >> i'd like to talk about how to develop a new foreign policy direction for our country. >> reporter: trump leads in california but a victory for cruz, here, would likely mean a contested convention in july. >> when we stand together, there is nothing, nothing, that we cannot accomplish. >> bernie sanders announced he'll start laying off staff to turn his attention to california. and hillary clinton's office will open tomorrow. >> it would suggest she'

reminded that in 1976, ronald reagan was trying to take the nomination away from a sitting president, gerald ford. reagan announced a running mate ahead of the g.o.p. convention. it didn't work. >> ted cruz is hoping te will help get more votes from women. >> i think she was very well received during the primary. >> the move follows yesterday's poor performance in five primaries. fiorina is well known in the silicon valley and was the g.o.p. nominee for senate in 2010. today, she step stepped out of her comfort zone to sing a song two cruz's two young daughters. >> we get to play ♪ >> reporter: donald trump who never reads from a teleprompter did so today. >> i'd like to talk about how to develop a new foreign policy direction for our country. >> reporter: trump leads in california but a victory for cruz, here, would likely mean a contested convention in july. >> when we stand together, there is nothing, nothing, that we cannot accomplish. >> bernie sanders announced he'll start laying off staff to turn his attention to california. and hillary clinton's office will open tomorrow. >> it would sugg