"it's one of the most remarkable long form journalism careers" says gerald maserati, his fmer editor of the "new yortimes" magazine. he's had at least asbig a career as tom wolfe if not bigger. but other journalists can claim to have changed the way e game of baseball has played influence resolutions like the dodd-frank act and possibly inspired someone to opt a black baby. then again not everybody is so impressed. everybody think he's this icon, like he's just the most brilliant intelligent person ever created. we don't see it. we don't see it. we just think he's goofy and odd. >> (laughs) >> i'd say she's close to the truth. >> rose: but what is it you know? you know how to do what? >> i know how to taken a interest in something. actually be deeply interested in something and expressed that interest in words. so i know how to find things that interest me. it'ss simple as that. you're going to think this is facetious, i think this is absolutely true. i have a real wide lazy streak that i... my natural state is at rest. and i'm... it takes a lot to get me working and get interested.